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It’s not a CEO of a Fortune 500 company is why… or a top 10% Only Fans

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tbh, this is also a shitty job in my opinion despite relatively high pay

the pay for this is high enough to outmatch the shitty aspects of the job. I’d personally much rather be a CFO, CMO or COO than the CEO

It’s more an acknowledgment of what far too many women think is “success” while they’re lonely, miserable and unfulfilled

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That’s CCP propaganda. Per last available data, PRC has twice the abortion rate of the supposedly evil US of A. Interestingly, countries from what is considered the godless hyper-feminist West are at the bottom of the abortion per capita list.

Posts like that are usually made as jokes

Agreed. Building relationships is such a wonderful thing and it feels healthy too.

It feels as if a healthy human being should be doing these things.

In my personal experience anyway

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Slightly off topic, but of the women I know that have gone through a divorce or a long term relationship breakup, a surprising amount claim the guy was a narcissist or verbally abusive. If I am not mistaken narcissism is an actual mental condition that can be diagnosed, and it is fairly rare (somewhere below around 5%). Yet is seems to be mentioned in break up stories more often than not by the woman.

I feel this is new? It seems I used to hear stuff like we just don’t get along anymore. Is there something this is coming from? I am trying to understand why this is so common now. I brought it up with family in law recently, and it wasn’t received well haha. Just kinda expressed my doubts about all of these guys being narcissists or verbally abusive.

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There is such thing as conditional and unconditional love.

I unconditionally love my daughter. She could hate me and never speak to me again, and id still love her.

I nearly unconditionally love my dog… if she were to bite my wife or daughters face off, that love ends. (Shes a pug, so not likely)

I conditionally love my wife. If she were to start sleeping with other men, that love ends.

Have you ever had unconditional love for something or someone?

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no. Not even myself

Closest is probably for my pets, but none of them are here anymore and I never really felt grief. Its more “oh, they’re gone… time to move on”

I don’t say dead because there’s a good chance that my former cat and dog are still alive somewhere. Both of them got lost and haven’t returned. Hamster did die though, but she was 3, which is already beyond expected lifespan so I didn’t feel sad

Its the rationalizations if a woman. Logic and facts do not matter; they feel they did the right thing for them, so they will post-rationalize their emotional decision to make it seem reasonable. Most have no clue they do this.

Most women are terrible at taking responsibility for their actions as well… likely an evolved trait. Its why a woman says all her exes were abusive cheaters, either she had the worst filtering system ever - or she has no ability to take responsibility for her own actions. A woman who can own and admit her former mistakes is an automatic +2 out of 10 for me. It shows she can be introspective and grow from past experiences.

The late David Graeber did a ton of anthropological research on pre-industrial societies on Madagascar and in the Amazon rainforest that the foundation of every society is basically accruing debt - giving something (respect, kindness, your time, effort - however minuscule it may be) without expecting something in return.

Completely transactional relationships are reserved for complete strangers outside of society.

Are you really, really sure about the “most” part?

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You do understand that love is a choice, right?

Chemically, the feeling of really enjoying someone’s presence shows as oxytocin. You get the same oxytocin when you love someone too. Or pet a dog.
Love is a choice, despite what the Disney fairytales tell us.

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Got it. That pretty much goes for all jobs that keep society running outside of work done in offices.

I work in healthcare. Nurses are highly appreciated and they are not paid poorly. In fact, nurses are so in demand that they have some leverage over employers. And right, it is not a glamorous job.

@marine77 got it. I was curious about what she meant.

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Oh lord… the N word. Eye roll. 9/10 of them smooth brains couldn’t define it.

I think so

I feel like most PEOPLE are not really great about taking responsibility for their actions.
If they were, there wouldn’t be so much obesity, abuse, fighting and other bad things

Or admitting to poor behaviour

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I do not know. There is so much new content out there about narcissism. NPD is rare but I think narcissistic tendencies have increased in the past decade.

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You mean like taking responsibility for not learning to connect with people on a non-transactional level? Or just being bad at empathy?

I don’t mean that to be as snarky or confrontational as it probably sounds on the internet. Just pointing out that it’s far easier to notice the problems that others have than to work on your own. And I realize the irony of saying that while pointing out what I perceive to be someone else’s problems.

oh lol, I include myself in “people”.

My point is that “failure to take responsibility” isn’t a gendered problem.

so @Andrewgen_Receptors isn’t necessarily wrong when he says that women tend to not take responsibility. It’s just that men are the same