I should have said “feedback” or “response.” No one, including me, is offering advice. I tripped into “advice” when I used systemlord as a comparison.
The feedback you’ve gotten is that both parties are responsible and that you are one of the few people simplifying it to
No, that’s not most people’s reaction. This thread supports much more nuanced thinking. You started with “women are supposed to gatekeep” and then when you didn’t get agreement seemed to hear “it’s all the men.”
I think the point is that a single mom doesn’t have to be unmarried or divorced. My upbringing proved that. And youre assuming male influence is positive just by itself - hard no.
I point my kids in the right direction, but make sure they have the resources to find the answer so they understand the thought process behind it.
And you’ve got those.
So “Good job buddy! That’s a complicated question, but it’s important to learn about. Trust me, it will make your life better. If you need me to help you find a book or use the computer or want a popsicle, just ask.”
Just chiming in that I don’t buy in to the patriarchy bullshit. It’s not 1980 anymore. Listening to people talk about the “patriarchy” feels a lot like listening to people bemoan suffering through slavery, when they were born in 1993.
In any case two people make a baby. If the conversation is shifting to unfair advantage women have over that outcome then I’m in agreement. It’s bullshit.
If we are holding sentiment that women should be fully responsible for pregnancy because they are allowed choice in sex partners and sometimes get a bum deal, I’d circle back to prior comments.
There are advantages and disadvantages to being a guy, same goes for being a girl.
An advantage I have as a guy is assumed competence in the work place. I wear the same pants every day, hardly ever shave, have long hair and a Hulk Hogan mustache, and it’s just assumed I know what I am doing. Women typically don’t get that assumption. In my field (mechanical engineering), women seem to need to be more professional to be taken seriously.
I would say this is a function of trade and workplace culture more so than gender. I’m in a very white collar environment and nobody would take you seriously if you showed up like this. They would see a woman in a suit dress (dress suit??) with a sharp demeanor as serious. Gender really wouldn’t factor.
I don’t think we are in one, but we are moving away from it. All of the men’s rights/incel/antifemenist bullshit is because when an entitlement is taken away it feels like a punishment.
