Simpler Question About Oestrogen

Pharma TRT
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[quote]CaptainProblemo wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
If it was not raising your T while raising E2, it will not raise your T while taking Adex. It was aromatizing in your skin membrane before being absorbed into your bloodsrtream as T. I have no idea why this happens, but many people dont absorb gels as T. Though yours seems to be an extreme case because I dont remember any else’s E2 shooting up as high as yours did to boot.

You need to get youself on shots.[/quote]

I had a shot of Sustanon … but my E2 was raised when I had the shot, and on all accounts it made it worse. My blood pressure went right up, my legs were puffy and so was my face.

If the Gel was raising my E2, AND it worked in the first week or two, then it must have put up my T in those early two weeks. If it worked in those two weeks, but was unreliable at Sustaining T … surely the metabolism occured in my blood to E2 as well as in my skin.

Don’t forget these are British units, what ever they may be … And my Endo was not overly concerned about my E2 level. Even though it was clearly Hi.

The NEW Gel is different, it gets rubbed into shoulders. Not left to hang about on my belly and arms leaving a white residue. I have read and spoken to several people who have great results on it. If it doesn’t work and my week two bloods show it doesn’t I will TRY to get bi-weekly shots…

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Brother have you read any of the replies in this thread? It has been suggested you take shots 2x per week if you go that route.
Now you come back and say if the gel does not work you will go onto biweekly injections wtf?

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I have read the thread.
BUT …

I am in the UK. I cannot just obtain drugs and blood tests without keeping my doctor’s onside. Health services here are prescription only, and privately they are prohibitively expensive. Like …wow expensive. I know I have been paying a lot of the time.

The Gel I have been prescribed is ENTIRELY different to the Gel I was originally prescribed and a lot more people seem to have longer lasting success with it. Although there is a weight loss component in there too. Getting you weight right down is really more important that at first it appeared. I was over weight, I gave up drinking and now I am just slightly overweight.

Large doses and 2 times a week shots don’t happen legally in the UK. The only larger doses come with the signing of a license, to wave your rights should you end up dead. They take it extremely seriously. Even my T-Gel scripts are countersigned. To get 2xWeekly shots you would have to have a private prescription, it would be impossible to get 2 X weekly legally here. I know one guy personally who has a 1g per Month Cyp shot, his wife injects him, he had to weight nearly 8 months to get it and he is licensed.

My Original question was pretty direct about E2 and Test. I’ve read the stickies and I understand the principle.

My problem was originally I took the Gel and was impatient, I was and am suffering from extreme levels of depression driven by my hormones imbalance T vs E2. I’v been told that by a doctor. When I took the Gel, there were large periods when I was absolutely OK…enjoying a libido, a large flaccid penis and a very healthy erection. But I tried double dosing, and its only when I increased my dose that I started to suffer ill effects. When I said that I had ONCE double doses to see what it was like and as the first time I did it, it was OK … It was suggested I try it more … and that is when the E2 problems really got stuck in.

The new Gel is an absorption Gel, not something you leave sat on your skin like the old one. I now have an A.I and thanks to this forum, I know in what kind of doses it might be useful. Thanks to a Doctors appointment today I now have 3 weekly bloods to assess its effectiveness.

And … as I said… thanks for the information … Should this not be as effective as I think it probably will be, I shall try for twice monthly Cyp injections at the recommended doses … and that will be the best I can get …believe me … Unless I break the law, if I do that … I will have to buy my meds on the black market.

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[quote]CaptainProblemo wrote:
Large doses and 2 times a week shots don’t happen legally in the UK. The only larger doses come with the signing of a license, to wave your rights should you end up dead. They take it extremely seriously. Even my T-Gel scripts are countersigned. To get 2xWeekly shots you would have to have a private prescription, it would be impossible to get 2 X weekly legally here. I know one guy personally who has a 1g per Month Cyp shot, his wife injects him, he had to weight nearly 8 months to get it and he is licensed.
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[quote] Unless I break the law, if I do that … I will have to buy my meds on the black market.

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More misinformation. Testosterone and TRT ancillaries are legal to possess for personal use in the UK.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]CaptainProblemo wrote:
Large doses and 2 times a week shots don’t happen legally in the UK. The only larger doses come with the signing of a license, to wave your rights should you end up dead. They take it extremely seriously. Even my T-Gel scripts are countersigned. To get 2xWeekly shots you would have to have a private prescription, it would be impossible to get 2 X weekly legally here. I know one guy personally who has a 1g per Month Cyp shot, his wife injects him, he had to weight nearly 8 months to get it and he is licensed.
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[quote] Unless I break the law, if I do that … I will have to buy my meds on the black market.

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More misinformation. Testosterone and TRT ancillaries are legal to possess for personal use in the UK. [/quote]

ACtually yes you are right … but I still need the support of my doctors for testing …