Simple or Complicated

Who are you?

Are you the guy who counts every gram of protein and calorie either when dieting or gaining weight?.

Do you write down every lift in a journal and make sure to follow “perfect” form on every rep?

OR

are you the guy who just keeps it simple by eating alot when gaining and eating less when dieting?

Do you go to the gym and just lift “heavy ass weight” and go by how your body feels not by a program given by Bob or John.

Just wondering how everyone approaches their lifting. Post if you are serious about lifting or GO AWAY

I choose to eat nearly the same foods every day. I’ve been doing this for at least half a year, with very few interuptions.

This way, I only needed to calculate the macro’s once, and I know exactly how much I’m getting each day.

However, I am losing my enthusiasm for the “scientific” approach to nutrition due to a nagging suspicion that nutrition labels are bullshit. In fact, they don’t even add up half the time. I also think the classic “4/4/9 kcal” structure has serious flaws. And don’t even get me started about metabolic formulas. Those are all BS, by default.

I am doing my nutrition certification now so I’m expected to be able to regurgitate this stuff on command. The more I think about it, the greater nonsense it seems.

My personal, anecdotal nutrition theory basically revolves around the following tenets:

  • Plant foods are not optimal for human consumption
  • Animal foods are

I follow a specific training split for hypertrophy:

D1: Delts & Traps (high volume, light weight)
D2: Legs
D3: Arms
D4: Chest/Back/Lats

I’m aware of the nutritional content of my food. I don’t obsess over it.

I keep a journal so that I have something on paper which I can try to beat.

I try to lift as much weight as possible without causing injury.

same diet every day with about the same amounts and i don’t keep a training log, my short term memory is great

I’m simple, I train with basically just the basics for the most part. I tend to train heavy and eat only 5 meals a day on average sometimes less sometimes more. I don’t count anything other then protein and not seriously just to make sure I’m getting enough. I eat basic food like chicken, rice, oatmeal, eggs,milk. veggies ext. I try to eat a lot also of these foods also.

I think counting everything is important, but its just too much work and the difference I feel is not huge-unless dieting-

Hah eating the same foods everyday, thats pretty hardcore. I couldn’t do that be way too boring and got to have my cheat meals.

I’ve done both.

Complicated is more effective.

Logging all your meals and workouts ends up being more work than doing them. I’d rather have less gains than do the logging thing again.

[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
I’m aware of the nutritional content of my food. I don’t obsess over it.

I keep a journal so that I have something on paper which I can try to beat.

I try to lift as much weight as possible without causing injury.
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I guess i am like this - but a little more complexc in programming, and about the same in nutrition.

Joe

i read the labels everytime and quickly estimate caloric and protein intake, especially on training days.

in the gym the power rack is usually the first stop. that or the pull up bar. from there i see whats available throw on more weight than i should, and pound out up to 12 reps.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
I choose to eat nearly the same foods every day. I’ve been doing this for at least half a year, with very few interuptions.

This way, I only needed to calculate the macro’s once, and I know exactly how much I’m getting each day.

However, I am losing my enthusiasm for the “scientific” approach to nutrition due to a nagging suspicion that nutrition labels are bullshit. In fact, they don’t even add up half the time. I also think the classic “4/4/9 kcal” structure has serious flaws. And don’t even get me started about metabolic formulas. Those are all BS, by default.

I am doing my nutrition certification now so I’m expected to be able to regurgitate this stuff on command. The more I think about it, the greater nonsense it seems.

My personal, anecdotal nutrition theory basically revolves around the following tenets:

  • Plant foods are not optimal for human consumption
  • Animal foods are

I follow a specific training split for hypertrophy:

D1: Delts & Traps (high volume, light weight)
D2: Legs
D3: Arms
D4: Chest/Back/Lats [/quote]

i like your approach because you actually conjure up this shit from experience. but “Plant foods are not optimal for human consumption”??? would you care to elaborate or do i have to beat it out of you

Training; If I can add weight to the bar on a given lift for a long period of time, I use it. I make sure my “routine” has no obvious holes in it in relation to my goals. That’s it.

Eating; If it can be grown (fruits/vegetables) or killed (animals), I eat it.

"- Plant foods are not optimal for human consumption

  • Animal foods are"

I don’t even know where to go with that one!

I’ve done both as well. Being more complicated is a lot more work, but it helps track your diety responses even more efficiently than normal. I do always keep a training log, though.

It is interesting to not keep track of the diet sometimes, so you really have to JUDGE for yourself in the morning / next day how your body reacted.

I’m the complicated type. It honestly only takes out a max of 15 minutes out of my day though, and it helps me stay on track. Using an online calorie-counter is probably the smartest thing you could ever do.

Just make it a habit to go on there right after every meal and take 2 minutes to add all the food you just ate, even it just ends up being rough estimates. As for training logs, I always print out a sheet of paper before heading to the gym, bring a small pen, and I’ll write what I’ve done while resting between sets.

I guess I’m complicated when it comes to planning and strategy.

I’ll take 2 weeks to come up with an optimal diet/training program to use for the next 10 weeks. The plus side to all that planning…the program is always a simple one.

Without getting into too much detail, I’m currently working on a nutrition application built off the USDA database that the nutrition labels are based on. The “4/4/9” references are just averages.

For example the pro_factor which is the reference for the kcals that the database uses to determine the number of kcals per gram of protein for each food item, ranges greatly from 0.96 being the minimum to 4.36 being the max. The average is 3.75, for fat it is 8.71 and for carbs is 3.85.

So basically without knowing what the factor numbers are exactly for each food, they aren’t always going to add up. That probably doesn’t help your frustration any but, I just thought I’d throw that out there since I have the data in front of me :slight_smile:

I would be accused of being too complicated.
I care a lot about how different exercises compliment each other in training, what Max Effort exercises to choose, and what numbers I need to hit in certain accessory excerises in order to reach my goals.

My diet is pretty simple and pretty regular. I don’t take any pill supplements. Just a good protein powder, waxy maize, and creatine. Besides those three things, I try to eat foods that have been around for a while in human history: Ezekiel bread, Eggs, Meat, Cheese, Fruit, Vegetables, Various Carbs, and Water make up my diet most of the time. I only indulge when I’m with other people and I don’t want to hear their psycho spheal about how it’s so weird that I deprive myself. And even then I try to minimize it.

I think im fairly simple minded. I dont look for perfect form on every rep especially if can squeeze out extra reps by breaking my form. With diet, i do’try and drink both pre and post protein drinks; but other than that i pretty much eat normal food—steak, potatos, and salad for dinner is one of my favorites.

I spent my first two months meticulously tracking everything I ate. Now I just ensure I eat clean, wholesome foods (with the occasional cheat meal), and get my 5-7 meals a day. I listen to what my body tells me, and I feel better than I did when I was jotting everything down.

As for my workout, I am using SS, and write down everything in my training log. I try to hit perfect form every time, but if I break form a little, I’m not going to cry over it.