Simeon Panda - Swole

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit.

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

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These brothas natty?

Naw mean?

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

onemorerep is a beast but isn’t he like 5’4?

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

onemorerep is a beast but isn’t he like 5’4?[/quote]

He’s 5’7".

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

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mabey same size wasnt the right words i should have said held his own. the reason 1morerep looks bigger than everyone is because he is like 5’7 @170 with a low bodyfat. panda is i think it said about 230@ 8% bodyfat, arnold used to compete at about 220@ 5-6% bodyfat. they almost have the same level of muscle mass.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

I think the photos iron put up were a good comparison. I think Simeon’s naturally small waist is making people think he’s at a lower bodyfat than he really is, along with making his upper body APPEAR that much more massive. In the comparison photos its obvious that his legs are not on the same level. Plus his legs didn’t even look in contest condition, is 230 supposed to be his stage weight or the weight in those shots?

But disregarding all this because its all just assumptions, saying there’s no way he’s natural because you can even compare him to Arnold kind of baffles me. So are we to assume what the governor did is the peak of human condition and no one will ever surpass it unassisted for all time?

Someone has to come along eventually and re-establish where the top of the mountain is at.

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[quote]Rush88 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

I think the photos iron put up were a good comparison. I think Simeon’s naturally small waist is making people think he’s at a lower bodyfat than he really is, along with making his upper body APPEAR that much more massive. In the comparison photos its obvious that his legs are not on the same level. Plus his legs didn’t even look in contest condition, is 230 supposed to be his stage weight or the weight in those shots?

But disregarding all this because its all just assumptions, saying there’s no way he’s natural because you can even compare him to Arnold kind of baffles me. So are we to assume what the governor did is the peak of human condition and no one will ever surpass it unassisted for all time?

Someone has to come along eventually and re-establish where the top of the mountain is at. [/quote]

no one natty will get to arnolds size while being the same bodyfat. also no i dont think 230 is his stage weight but i dont thin he would have a problem being 210-215 @ 5-6% bodyfat.

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Rush88 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

I think the photos iron put up were a good comparison. I think Simeon’s naturally small waist is making people think he’s at a lower bodyfat than he really is, along with making his upper body APPEAR that much more massive. In the comparison photos its obvious that his legs are not on the same level. Plus his legs didn’t even look in contest condition, is 230 supposed to be his stage weight or the weight in those shots?

But disregarding all this because its all just assumptions, saying there’s no way he’s natural because you can even compare him to Arnold kind of baffles me. So are we to assume what the governor did is the peak of human condition and no one will ever surpass it unassisted for all time?

Someone has to come along eventually and re-establish where the top of the mountain is at. [/quote]

no one natty will reach arnolds size period.[/quote]

Glad that’s cleared up.

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[quote]Rush88 wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Rush88 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

I think the photos iron put up were a good comparison. I think Simeon’s naturally small waist is making people think he’s at a lower bodyfat than he really is, along with making his upper body APPEAR that much more massive. In the comparison photos its obvious that his legs are not on the same level. Plus his legs didn’t even look in contest condition, is 230 supposed to be his stage weight or the weight in those shots?

But disregarding all this because its all just assumptions, saying there’s no way he’s natural because you can even compare him to Arnold kind of baffles me. So are we to assume what the governor did is the peak of human condition and no one will ever surpass it unassisted for all time?

Someone has to come along eventually and re-establish where the top of the mountain is at. [/quote]

no one natty will reach arnolds size period.[/quote]

Glad that’s cleared up.[/quote]

i edited my original post what i meant to say was. no natty will get to his size at the same bodyfat.

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Natty?

Dudes name is ‘Juice’ BTW…

lol

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From nuthin’ but bodyweight exercises.

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It amazes me why so many people actually care if he’s natty or not. The way I see it, using and competing in a natty show is like cheating on a test. You take a calculated risk and hope it pays off. If it doesn’t, as long as you accept the consequences like a man (because you KNOW the rules) and take whatever you’ve got coming to you, I couldn’t care less.

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Rush88 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

I think the photos iron put up were a good comparison. I think Simeon’s naturally small waist is making people think he’s at a lower bodyfat than he really is, along with making his upper body APPEAR that much more massive. In the comparison photos its obvious that his legs are not on the same level. Plus his legs didn’t even look in contest condition, is 230 supposed to be his stage weight or the weight in those shots?

But disregarding all this because its all just assumptions, saying there’s no way he’s natural because you can even compare him to Arnold kind of baffles me. So are we to assume what the governor did is the peak of human condition and no one will ever surpass it unassisted for all time?

Someone has to come along eventually and re-establish where the top of the mountain is at. [/quote]

no one natty will get to arnolds size while being the same bodyfat. also no i dont think 230 is his stage weight but i dont thin he would have a problem being 210-215 @ 5-6% bodyfat.[/quote]

you’ve made your point Ryan, now shut up

your last ten posts have said the same thing.

we get it, you have made your position perfectly clear

I CANTS TAKE NO MOAR

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

mabey same size wasnt the right words i should have said held his own. the reason 1morerep looks bigger than everyone is because he is like 5’7 @170 with a low bodyfat. panda is i think it said about 230@ 8% bodyfat, arnold used to compete at about 220@ 5-6% bodyfat. they almost have the same level of muscle mass. [/quote]

Arnie competed at 240 btw.

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
jesus christ, we get it! Stop repeating yourselves jeez[/quote]

Exactly, while you were all bitching about him being on steroids I was training and cooking a big steak and then eating the big steak. And then I checked this thread and FACEPALM I need to stop checking this thread

[/quote]

Basically this. I spent the last year making sure when people see me they notice the difference.

It seems some posters here spent all of that time making sure no one thinks any really built guys are natural.

THANK YOU STEROID POLICE!!![/quote]

could you please stop with the arrogance for just once. i dont think every built guy isnt natty. but when someone is the same size as arnie anc claims natty… i have to say bullshit. [/quote]

He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc. We have a dude on T-Nation (OneMoreRep) who barely weighs 170, but looks bigger than guys over 200 lbs here.

Furthermore, since bodybuilding is based on illusion (a series of juxtapositions that create contrast), Panda’s tiny waist makes his entire shoulder girdle and arms look enormous. Yes, he IS big, but nowhere near the size Arnold was, and no way would Panda have beaten Arnold at his peak.

[/quote]

mabey same size wasnt the right words i should have said held his own. the reason 1morerep looks bigger than everyone is because he is like 5’7 @170 with a low bodyfat. panda is i think it said about 230@ 8% bodyfat, arnold used to compete at about 220@ 5-6% bodyfat. they almost have the same level of muscle mass. [/quote]

Arnie competed at 240 btw.
[/quote]

yes he did my bad that was a typo.

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Some very sad jealous people in this thread. Panda says he is natural so why doubt him???

Its no more than a witch hunt, next thing you lot of morons are gonna be disputing if Moustafa Ismail is natty or not. If a person says something we have to believe it full stop. DERP

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc.
[/quote]

Obviously we have a much greater sample size of Arnolds body of work to go off of BUT based on those comparison shots you put up yesterday don’t you think that Simeon has a fairly comparable physique to Arnold’s at roughly the same size? (Based on Simeon’s 6’1 230 and Arnie’s 6’2+ 240?)

Based on those shots, I think so.

But at the same time wouldn’t Panda’s naturally freaky small waist, and presumably smaller bone structure, mean that he is actually carrying that much more muscle in order to weigh in at 230+? I don’t think he would beat Arnold at Arnold’s peak, never said that… But Simeon, again presumably, isn’t even at his peak so you’re not comparing peak to peak here.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
He’s not the same size as Arnold. You can’t just look at a man’s weight and make those judgements. So many variables determine size, density, mass, etc.
[/quote]

Obviously we have a much greater sample size of Arnolds body of work to go off of BUT based on those comparison shots you put up yesterday don’t you think that Simeon has a fairly comparable physique to Arnold’s at roughly the same size? (Based on Simeon’s 6’1 230 and Arnie’s 6’2+ 240?)

Based on those shots, I think so.

But at the same time wouldn’t Panda’s naturally freaky small waist, and presumably smaller bone structure, mean that he is actually carrying that much more muscle in order to weigh in at 230+? I don’t think he would beat Arnold at Arnold’s peak, never said that… But Simeon, again presumably, isn’t even at his peak so you’re not comparing peak to peak here.

[/quote]

True… on the surface perhaps. My points about the numerous variables that determine a man’s weight and subsequent size were the basis of my argument.

We would need these guys to stand side by side in real life, of course, to make accurate assessments.

When we look at solo pics of the great Sergio, the guy looks huge and monumental - and he was, at around 230. But look at pics of him standing next to Arnold.

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