Shutting Up a Co-Worker About Training

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
haha true…that really sucks that there is no convincing some people…I would just revert back to my now standard line of “Hows that workin for ya”[/quote]

definitley one of my favorite lines to use on people when i don’t agree or don’t care about what they’re talking about.

anyone else get made fun of for being too healthy? as in, people see you watching your diet closely or consuming X number of supplements and they look at you like ur an asshole for trying to get in shape?

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[quote]marqcoig wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
haha true…that really sucks that there is no convincing some people…I would just revert back to my now standard line of “Hows that workin for ya”[/quote]

definitley one of my favorite lines to use on people when i don’t agree or don’t care about what they’re talking about.

anyone else get made fun of for being too healthy? as in, people see you watching your diet closely or consuming X number of supplements and they look at you like ur an asshole for trying to get in shape? [/quote]

Dont even get me started on supplements. If your friends that dont workout or follow proper nutrition see even just protein or multivitamins that arent one a days they think your on all types of juice. They will also think that they can look just like you by drinking a protein shake once a day. It pisses me off beyond belief.

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if you lift weights, your physique should be argument enough.

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If you actually want the argument just talk about Wolff’s Law. It states that the body will increase the strength of its tissues to compensate for the stress put on it. Essentially it is the entire law by which weightlifting works. Without putting more stress on the body, i.e. if you are lifting just your body weight all the time, the body tissues will not grow or get stronger.

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Everyone has the office guru, ours we like to call KIA (know it all) he was in the Marine Corps for 6 months and now weighs about 270lbs at 5’8" all goo but thinks he is the end all be all everything cause he’s a MARINE!!'ish. He says some of the dumbest shit about training and nutrition.

When he first started I used to discuss training with him because he showed interest in getting in shape, he’s since quit going to the gym and started eating 3 gas station burritos a day and drinks 2 giant Monsters however he still thinks he’s CT or something.

Long story short, I’ve taken to walking away from in mid sentence or if he traps me in my cube I put on my headphones. Not to mention he’s annoying as fuck to begin with.

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[quote]TrollSlayer wrote:
what can i say to shut him up??anyone got any smart facts?
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Are you bigger than him?

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Its only a pain when they have the argument with other people then drag them to you to be the final voice. Hey man I don’t know jack about running so I’m not the guy. I have no idea how to get cut to the bone for beach week so ask someone else. In the end, they just want to hear they are right. So I just shrug my shoulders and point them to someone that would know.

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Dealing with co-workers who feel the compelling desire to discuss nutrition or training with you is something I’ve had to deal with a lot. As much as I love training, I try not to discuss it in public, at work, or when I first meet people. Where I teach, there is this one gym teacher (and older fellow, very good shape I’ll point out) who is completely living in the past. Everything said to him, especially by students, ends up with a story about what he used to be able to do. Anyway, he knows that I compete, and always feel the need to discuss things with me. Eyeballing my bottle on Mag10 instantly causes a “looks like Isopure eh?” comment. When we have meetings, and there’s some little snacks put out, he must always make a big deal of pointing out how he separates his complex from simple carbs (even though no one ever asks -lol). The point is that I’ve found the best way to deal with him, (and he’s NOT a bad guy at all, I actually like the guy), is to just let him have his moment,and not engage in the conversation.

Walking into the building a while back:
Him:“Whfew,… I was up at 4am doing squats, and then still did my cardio!”
Me:" wow, I couldn’t do that."

And it just sort of ends with that -lol.

S[/quote]

Wow, respect for that approach. Best answer IMO.

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Why do you guys care? Really? And why do you engage people in these conversations?

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[quote]marqcoig wrote:
anyone else get made fun of for being too healthy? as in, people see you watching your diet closely or consuming X number of supplements and they look at you like ur an asshole for trying to get in shape? [/quote]

I do. My fat boss likes to point out that I drink ‘fruity shakes’ for lunch. Insinuating that I’m ghey for drinking a protein shake occasionally.

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[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
You would think that a fat, homely, wimpy, tub of goo would STFU about nutrition and training around someone who obviously is doing something right but that just doesn’t seem to happen in real life. [/quote]

They see you doing things right and trying to live healthy, something they have no willpower for, and are betting for you to fail, which will justify their lifestyle. They are lying to themselves and making excuses, and then projecting it on you. Kinda sad, really.

Luckily I work with a bunch of guys who are in decent shape, so I rarely have to deal with that sort of thing, except sometimes at church. What is annoying to me is the people who tell you they want to get in shape(bigger, leaner, whatever), and are asking for your guidance.

So you spend a decent amount of time laying out the basics for them, so they can continue doing exactly what they were already doing. This used to really irk the trainer at my last unit, who I worked with for a while. It became an inside joke where he would send those types to me, then watch from his office and laugh while I tried to be polite about it.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]TrollSlayer wrote:
what can i say to shut him up??anyone got any smart facts?
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Are you bigger than him?[/quote]

This is relevant.

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]TrollSlayer wrote:
what can i say to shut him up??anyone got any smart facts?
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Are you bigger than him?[/quote]

This is relevant.[/quote]

Unfortunately it may not be. What if he just recently began with weight training and has yet to look like an experienced weight lifter? Under those circumstances it wouldn’t be relevant although he would still be correct in his beliefs.

I get a lot of this as well…usually it’s the fat sedentary idiots who like to attempt to lecture me; most likely because they feel embarassed and need to validate their lifestyle to themselves through me. I always just smile and say, “sure sure.” The people who know their cock from a dildo are usually asking me for advice.

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Training, Politics, and Religion three things it is best you agree to disagree.

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[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:

[quote]marqcoig wrote:
anyone else get made fun of for being too healthy? as in, people see you watching your diet closely or consuming X number of supplements and they look at you like ur an asshole for trying to get in shape? [/quote]

I do. My fat boss likes to point out that I drink ‘fruity shakes’ for lunch. Insinuating that I’m ghey for drinking a protein shake occasionally. [/quote]

this reminds me of my friends dad. i work in a mexican restaurant and he was in getting some food for himself and his wife…probably a breakfast burrito and a sausage and egg quesadilla (not that healthy). anyways, i was finishing a protein shake when he came in and saw me. he said to me, “What is that shit your drinking?” emphasis on the word “shit”. after i told him he scoffed at me, as he was going home to fatten his belly on greasy, bad-carb, fatty goodness. because he’s A) a customer, and B) a guy who has invited me into his home to drink fine scotch, and C) my friend’s father it was hard not to remind him he’s had a heart-attack before his 50th birthday, he’s overweight, and i’m in much better shape than everyone in his family.

i think i gave him a dirty look and walked away.

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I have the regular friends who keep telling me that they know that they should get in shape, and ask me for training and diet tips. This is ALL wasted breath for me, since I know that they will never act on that advice, or even get into the gym or GNC.

I tell them that this lifestyle isn’t for everyone, and life is too short to drag your ass to the gym if you aint into it. That I do it 'cause I like the way it makes me feel, and that they should do whatever makes them feel good.

This is my lifestyle, and I live for it, but I try not to stuff it up everyones ass. There are those out there that have this need to tell people how to live. Fuck them, they don’t know shit.

Do what makes you feel good.

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[quote]TrollSlayer wrote:
here is the eternal debate about weights vs bodyweight…This anoying ass at work is a bodyweights fanatic…he doesnt shut up about a person who does bodyweight stuff (pushups,pullups etc) will be bigger and stronger than a guy who only lifts weights…Now i know that this isn’t the case, but what can i say to shut him up??anyone got any smart facts?

I know i could just shove my fists down his throat but i would end up getting fired[/quote]

They “can” be just as strong; depending on how it is measured. But for most cases this is true - but “stronger”, meh, probably not…by using body weight alone one can manipulate levers to such a degree as to make his body weight extremely “heavy”. Gymnasts are classic examples; now many will say , yeah but their legs suck - only because the sport generally demands that. But there are plenty of body weight legs exercises that can magnify your body weight tremendously - stick that in with lots of volume and you get pretty big/strong.

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I am often solicited for ‘diet’ advice from the women I work with. I tell them to email me their current stats, food cravings and what they are/aren’t willing to do. It is that last part that is gold.

They always come back with a laundry list of what they can not do. Such as…I can’t take the time to prepare my meals, I don’t have time for x, y or z. I can’t make different meals for myself while I cook something else for my family. My (insert family member here) won’t eat (insert healthy food here).

I tell them as nicely as possible that they are not ready to make the committment to themselves to be healthy. They pretty much leave me alone after that!

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As Shugart said, just ask him “How’s that workin’ out for ya?” Though, honestly, actions are the best answer. On the V-Diet and 40 day program, all my fellow students called me anorexic, crazy, etc…

After dropping 20 lbs, and looking the best I have in a long time, suddenly I am being asked for training tips, and the one who called me anorexic signed up for an intro to lifting class (I know the trainer, and she is old school - squat, bench, deadlift).

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[quote]Battle Pope wrote:

[quote]grandin11 wrote:
How can he say someone who does bodyweight exercises is stronger than someone who lifts weights considering the load of bodyweight exercises basically never changes? Just show him videos of Ronnie, Jay, etc. lifting weights and if he has 2 brain cells to rub together he should shut up. If not, listen to his argument, laugh, and ignore him.[/quote]

well, you can increase the load by either eating a ton and putting on weight, or by changing the leverages. Dominic Lacasse is a pretty elite gymnast, he’s 5’7" and about 160lbs. Every training video i’ve seen doesn’t show him lifting weights, he’s all bodyweight. But, sure, eugene sandow was 5’9 1/4", and weighed 202 lbs. These stats are from roughly the same age of each person.

And sandow wouldn’t be considered a “big guy” by today’s standards either. Obviously he didn’t use steroids, since they didn’t exist. Clearly, this guy who trained 100 years ago, is bigger than the guy who trains today with just bodyweight.

http://www.dominiclacasse.com/domlacasse.php
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I agree Sandow was not a “big” guy but most of his training consisted of bodyweight training as with most strongman. Bert Assirati, a wrestler and strongman, in the 1930’s also used bodyweight training, he performed one-armed handstands as part of his training, at 230 llbs. This doesn’t mean they hated weights just no access to them 24 hours a day. Moreover, today’s bodyweight training the dirty dog and every asinine variation won’t increase power or mass, the authentic oldschool system involved training like gymnast; one armed variants of pullups, headstand, squats pushups, and iron crosses on gymnast rings.
One thing I would like to ask is has anyone ever met a powerlifter or bodybuilder not incorporate some sort of bodyweight training? Dips, pull ups, and push ups are staples just as squats, deadlift, and bench press but an individual who incorporates all of this far more likely to succeed in strength and size than the individual who snubs one for the other. In short there is some truth to what he says but why bother worrying about what some tool at work says let him have his dirty dog and incorrectly performed dive bomber push ups. Keep doing what you love and the results will shut him up.