SHREDDED, a Documentary

[quote]Professor X wrote:
no one gets massive by relying on a “magic feather” as useless as most random supplements. [/quote]

excellent dumbo reference!

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hell, I got it from undercooked eggs at a very well known pancake house.

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Do you realize that MANY of these so-called “food poisoning” incidents have been attributed to poor food handling (handlers had poor hygiene after using the bathroom)?
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Dude, from what I understand, if you took a UV light to most hotel rooms, you would never sleep there again.

Yeah, I do know that…and I also know that there should be limited hand on tactics with my scrambled eggs to start with.

Trust me, I cringe every time I see a fast food worker preparing food with no gloves. That may be why I go to places where I know the people cooking there and cook my own food so much lately.

Food poisoning is the devil for a bodybuilder. One drop of bacteria grown out of control can fuck up months of progress…so why risk it?[/quote]

Tell me it ain’t Ihop, for the love of Christ tell me it was Taco Bell or something.[/quote]

a very well known pancake house named Taco Bell? its gotta be Ihop, Dennys or possibly Waffle House… I ate at a Waffle House every day when I was in North Carolina. It was amazing.[/quote]

A boy can dream…

I fucking <3 iHop. Seriously, the triple eggs, bacon and pancakes with an extra stack is the shit. plus my wife always has an extra cake left over…

I don’t just feel bad for the kids because of the misinformation they received, I also feel bad for them for the way they were used in this doc. Assuming they learn the error of their ways eventually, they are going to be embarrassed at this.

A lot of the lines from their interviews looked like they were taken out of context to make weightlifting seem bad and unhealthy. The weight vest guy saying that weightlifting is an addiction, and likening it to a ‘reverse anorexia’ for example. He could have very well meant that in the best way, but they way they used it was to present bbing as being similar to a real body image disorder.

It’s been 5 years since that doc was made and I have a feeling a couple of those guys are embarrassed at how they portrayed bodybuilding, and it’s not their fault, really.

Goddamn it, why did that have to be made in Canada.

Denny's FTW - They have bread made of some sort of fluffy potatoes, that somehow have syrup involved.. I don't really remember, I was pretty drunk.. but fuck me, that was an amazing sandwich.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hell, I got it from undercooked eggs at a very well known pancake house.

[/quote]

Do you realize that MANY of these so-called “food poisoning” incidents have been attributed to poor food handling (handlers had poor hygiene after using the bathroom)?
[/quote]

Dude, from what I understand, if you took a UV light to most hotel rooms, you would never sleep there again.

Yeah, I do know that…and I also know that there should be limited hand on tactics with my scrambled eggs to start with.

Trust me, I cringe every time I see a fast food worker preparing food with no gloves. That may be why I go to places where I know the people cooking there and cook my own food so much lately.

Food poisoning is the devil for a bodybuilder. One drop of bacteria grown out of control can fuck up months of progress…so why risk it?[/quote]

Tell me it ain’t Ihop, for the love of Christ tell me it was Taco Bell or something.[/quote]

a very well known pancake house named Taco Bell? its gotta be Ihop, Dennys or possibly Waffle House… I ate at a Waffle House every day when I was in North Carolina. It was amazing.[/quote]

A boy can dream…

I fucking <3 iHop. Seriously, the triple eggs, bacon and pancakes with an extra stack is the shit. plus my wife always has an extra cake left over…

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iHop is good… ever been to a Waffle House? or a Cracker barrel? So good

Cracker barrel = too long of a wait, and the old people smell like moth balls.

The only thing with IHOP is they put pancake batter in their omelettes if you are trying to avoid the batter and all.

[quote]Adam Bomb wrote:
That video was the dumbest thing I have ever fucking seen! And it’s used in Canadian public schools to educate these dumb kids.[/quote]

I just watched the whole thing. I hope you’re wrong about it being used in schools. It’s loaded with factual errors. What that bodybuilding trainer woman was saying, for example. Or that stupid Excel spreadsheet that kid was using. Whoever created that must not be aware lifting existed before steroids.

If the purpose of the documentary is to educate, there should be some basic fact-checking going on in it. Or at least ridiculous statements should be called into question.

[quote]Adam Bomb wrote:
That video was the dumbest thing I have ever fucking seen! And it’s used in Canadian public schools to educate these dumb kids.[/quote]

Educate them, on how to fail.

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
I don’t just feel bad for the kids because of the misinformation they received, I also feel bad for them for the way they were used in this doc. Assuming they learn the error of their ways eventually, they are going to be embarrassed at this.

A lot of the lines from their interviews looked like they were taken out of context to make weightlifting seem bad and unhealthy. The weight vest guy saying that weightlifting is an addiction, and likening it to a ‘reverse anorexia’ for example. He could have very well meant that in the best way, but they way they used it was to present bbing as being similar to a real body image disorder.

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Is THAT what the point was supposed to be? That weightlifting is bad and leads to body image issues? I didn’t even get that much from it. I took it as more of an anti-steroid rant, but one that undermined its own argument by lumping creatine and even PROTEIN together with “drugs” and suggesting that steroids are necessary to make any noticeable progress. As an anti-steroid message, that’s a fail.

You guys didn’t click on the “Education” tab, read below:

Grade 10 - 12

Heath/Personal Development / Substance Use and Abuse/Addiction

Heath/Personal Development / Fitness/Physical Activities

Media Education / Body Image

Heath/Personal Development / Body Image
Teaching Guides
Guide 1
Educational purpose:

Start a class discussion about body image, as it pertains to both sexes. What behaviour would be considered extreme and dangerous as far as bodybuilding is concerned? Discuss the risks and benefits of supplement use, including that of steroids, to achieve desired physical results. How responsible is the media in encouraging boys to attain the perfect male physique?

Maureen Rossong, Halifax Regional Municipality, NS

In other news, this movie looks cool:

And BTW, Bruce Willis is talking about Die Hard 5!

(I CBF starting a new thread, so I’m attempting hijack)

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hell, I got it from undercooked eggs at a very well known pancake house.

[/quote]

Do you realize that MANY of these so-called “food poisoning” incidents have been attributed to poor food handling (handlers had poor hygiene after using the bathroom)?
[/quote]

Dude, from what I understand, if you took a UV light to most hotel rooms, you would never sleep there again.

Yeah, I do know that…and I also know that there should be limited hand on tactics with my scrambled eggs to start with.

Trust me, I cringe every time I see a fast food worker preparing food with no gloves. That may be why I go to places where I know the people cooking there and cook my own food so much lately.

Food poisoning is the devil for a bodybuilder. One drop of bacteria grown out of control can fuck up months of progress…so why risk it?[/quote]

Do you ever eat out?

I think you have a case of innumeracy, because looking at statistics, your chances of getting food poisoning from eating raw eggs at home are smaller than getting it eating in a restaurant.

At home at least you know who is handling your food.

you guys obviously don’t have the shredded mentality lol…

[quote]Im_New_Feed_Me wrote:
Goddamn it, why did that have to be made in Canada.

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Because it would be better if it were made in America?

[quote]D Public wrote:
you guys obviously don’t have the shredded mentality lol…[/quote]

Shredded? Does. not. compute.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
you guys obviously don’t have the shredded mentality lol…[/quote]

Shredded? Does. not. compute.
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I love cheese but prefer to shred my own. This naturally shredded stuff is total crap.

[quote]Sarev0k wrote:

[quote]Im_New_Feed_Me wrote:
Goddamn it, why did that have to be made in Canada.

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Because it would be better if it were made in America?
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Indeed.

[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
I don’t just feel bad for the kids because of the misinformation they received, I also feel bad for them for the way they were used in this doc. Assuming they learn the error of their ways eventually, they are going to be embarrassed at this.

A lot of the lines from their interviews looked like they were taken out of context to make weightlifting seem bad and unhealthy. The weight vest guy saying that weightlifting is an addiction, and likening it to a ‘reverse anorexia’ for example. He could have very well meant that in the best way, but they way they used it was to present bbing as being similar to a real body image disorder.

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Is THAT what the point was supposed to be? That weightlifting is bad and leads to body image issues? I didn’t even get that much from it. I took it as more of an anti-steroid rant, but one that undermined its own argument by lumping creatine and even PROTEIN together with “drugs” and suggesting that steroids are necessary to make any noticeable progress. As an anti-steroid message, that’s a fail.[/quote]

I don’t know if that’s what the point was supposed to be, but if it wasn’t then it was at least heavily implied.

-All of the kids got into lifting after serious self esteem issues relating to body image. We all get into lifting to look better but most of us don’t have serious issues like that motivate us.

-any pride the kids took in their progress was played down in favour of select quotes of them saying they weren’t satisfied at all, that they didn’t know if they’d ever be satisfied, that anorexia comparison. The benefits to their self esteem were played down.

-when the guy used that program that told him he couldn’t even become a lean 215, and concluded that to do it he’d need steroids the filmmakers didn’t even make an attempt to verify how accurate that program was. It was pretty much accepted as fact in the film. That makes it look like bodybuilding is a fruitless endeavour without chemical assistance, since 215 lean is far from impossible in real life [unless you’re short].

-between the former bodybuilder, the coach, the episode with the program^, and the comments by the weight vest kid, they made it look like getting to a respectable level required steroids. That makes it look like bodybuilding is a dangerous hobby for someone to take up in a serious way.

-the one kid at the very end who learned his lesson was the one kid who quit. So basically it’s portrayed as the guy who was the best of psychologically by the end was the one who quit.

So if those guys eventually learned they probably are embarrassed about the image they gave bodybuilding in this doc.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
you guys obviously don’t have the shredded mentality lol…[/quote]

Shredded? Does. not. compute.
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I love cheese but prefer to shred my own. This naturally shredded stuff is total crap.[/quote]

Ridiculous.