Showtime's Dexter

simpstr1 · December 20, 2011, 1:38am

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:
The only problem I had with the finale was why did Deb go to the church at night ALL BY HERSELF!? She must have known that was a dangerous move and it would have been easy to get backup.

Am I the only one who thinks the new love interest in Dexter must be awkward on set? Since the actors who play Deb and Dexter were married but divorced not long before the season.[/quote]

She went there because earlier he told her he’d go over after his sons play and she was anxious to tell him how she felt!

mightE · December 20, 2011, 4:42am

Am I the only one that finds this Deb/Dexter love shit to be totally GROSS??

I know they aren’t biological… so what?? ewwwww

LHT · December 20, 2011, 6:27am

[quote]mightE wrote:
Am I the only one that finds this Deb/Dexter love shit to be totally GROSS??

I know they aren’t biological… so what?? ewwwww [/quote]

Hey, that’s nothing. Just think – when they do start having sweet sibling sex, Harry’s ghost is going to be hanging out in the room, watching them.

anonym · December 20, 2011, 6:38am

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
The crime scene was supposed to be safe (in Dexter’s mind). He was told to go there alone after the play and check it out which he didn’t do because he was after Travis on the rooftop. It wasn’t until hours later when he was in the Church. Why would Deb randomly come to the church? I think she went over to Dexter’s appartment and talked to the babysitter, where she told Deb that he was finishing up at a crime scene (at the Church). The only reason why Deb was looking for Dext was because she wanted to tell him how she felt (which she just decided to do after speaking with the therapist again). The Church was always the place where Dexter wanted to do the deed…not the safest obviously but it was the best suited place in his eyes.[/quote]

Whether not not he “expected” Deb to be there is really besides the point. We’re talking about a guy who was so cautious that in season 3 he called off a kill because some random dude at a bar recognized Miguel while they were stalking a victim. Part of his whole appeal as a killer was the cold, calculating, meticulous and detached way he went about planning his kills. There’s no way in hell an active crime scene like the church could be considered a safe place to throw up dozens of yards of plastic to murder and dismember someone, especially when we are talking about someone who had spent almost every season to this point operating several steps ahead of the police force.

Nowadays, it’s like, “hey, gotta get this over with so I can go tuck in Harrison before the babysitter gets worried.” Shit’s lame as hell.

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
Ya, I agree 50/50 with the kid on the rooftop. He wasn’t expecting a kid to be up there, clearly anyone could come up onto the rooftop as the elevator went directly up LOL (what a weird thing to have at a hotel/whatever it was). Also, Deb told all officers that they were suspecting Travis and him alone…so if I saw a kid (and I was the cop) on the rooftop I would not instantly think ‘Oh, this must be Travis and his son’. I’d be like ‘fuck, gotta get this kid outta here because its clearly not safe’. The only reason why the cops weren’t doubled up was that they didn’t have the manpower to double up all the officers as 1/2 of the tallest buildings in miami would be unoccupied by police.

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I agree with this season ‘blowing’. Definitely not as good as the Trinity season (which I think is one of the top 2 seasons of Dexter so far). [/quote]

As a cop staking out an area of interest where it is suspected that an elusive, mastermind serial killer is planning on staging his masterpiece, ANYTHING out of the ordinary should have been suspicious as hell… there was absolutely no reason for a costumed infant to be running amock on that rooftop.

But, hey, it’s a no-name beat cop so it’s OK for us to keep in mind that he was very likely retarded to some degree.

One might also expect them to, at the very least, disable the elevator and lock the doors leading to the roof so the bad guy can’t stealthily snake his way in there under the nose of the sentry… the sound of him kicking the door down to get to the rooftop would’ve been a heckuva heads up for our dimwitted rent-a-cop.

anonym · December 20, 2011, 6:38am

[quote]LHT wrote:

[quote]mightE wrote:
Am I the only one that finds this Deb/Dexter love shit to be totally GROSS??

I know they aren’t biological… so what?? ewwwww [/quote]

Hey, that’s nothing. Just think – when they do start having sweet sibling sex, Harry’s ghost is going to be hanging out in the room, watching them.[/quote]

Incest is wincest.

florelius · December 20, 2011, 11:21am

[quote]LHT wrote:

[quote]mightE wrote:
Am I the only one that finds this Deb/Dexter love shit to be totally GROSS??

I know they aren’t biological… so what?? ewwwww [/quote]

Hey, that’s nothing. Just think – when they do start having sweet sibling sex, Harry’s ghost is going to be hanging out in the room, watching them.
[/quote]

LMAO

mightE · December 20, 2011, 2:15pm

[quote]LHT wrote:

[quote]mightE wrote:
Am I the only one that finds this Deb/Dexter love shit to be totally GROSS??

I know they aren’t biological… so what?? ewwwww [/quote]

Hey, that’s nothing. Just think – when they do start having sweet sibling sex, Harry’s ghost is going to be hanging out in the room, watching them.
[/quote]

LOL! even better…

mightE · December 20, 2011, 2:24pm

I got one for you.

How come Dex didn’t just pick up the murdered officer’s M-16 and put one right in DDK Travis’ forehead? Let’s see… rifle vs rusty antique gladius. Do the math.

Sure Travis would have dropped Harrison, but I’m sure he would have been fine. Dex had on gloves, so there’s no fingerprint issues.

I guess it’s possible that he didn’t see the cop. But with Harrison on the line, I would take a rifle over a shot needle and hand to hand any day.

Here’s another thing… I didn’t catch this: How did Dex fake injecting himself?? It looked like he totally gave himself the shot

ashylarryku · December 20, 2011, 3:29pm

[quote]mightE wrote:
I got one for you.

How come Dex didn’t just pick up the murdered officer’s M-16 and put one right in DDK Travis’ forehead? Let’s see… rifle vs rusty antique gladius. Do the math.

Sure Travis would have dropped Harrison, but I’m sure he would have been fine. Dex had on gloves, so there’s no fingerprint issues.

I guess it’s possible that he didn’t see the cop. But with Harrison on the line, I would take a rifle over a shot needle and hand to hand any day.

Here’s another thing… I didn’t catch this: How did Dex fake injecting himself?? It looked like he totally gave himself the shot[/quote]

I’m pretty sure if a rifle goes off a ton of people are going to hear. Especially if the P.D. is expecting for someone to eventually catch him they are going to have there ears open for something like that. Probably not the easiest escape for Dexter.

And, Travis had the knife pressed against his son’s throat the entire time. If he even walked towards the gun as if to pick it up, I’m sure Travis would have just done it then.

kaisermetal · December 21, 2011, 4:27am

[quote]mightE wrote:
I got one for you.

Here’s another thing… I didn’t catch this: How did Dex fake injecting himself?? It looked like he totally gave himself the shot[/quote]

a saline solution, because we all know that injecting air in your veins is really healthy!

Fat_Bastard1 · December 21, 2011, 9:33am

And how the fuck did Dexter manage to carry Travis down the building and into his car without anyone noticing? While that is not impossible, it certainly seems improbable.
And yeah, we all know that Dexter always carries a spare saline syringe, in case someone asks him to inject himself right?

Dexter now has to either kill Deb or I guess bone her. His son is certainly going to grow up to be a fine citizen.
Mother murdered (in front of his eyes, but too young I guess), dad is a serial killer who bones his non biological sister, who starts every sentence with nothing less than “motherfucking fuck”.

I’d be eagerly waiting for the show called “Harrision: Incest, murder and motherfuckingsisterfistercumdumpster”…

JaseHxC · December 21, 2011, 1:21pm

Anyone willing to take a bet on Dexter killing Deb within the first 5 minutes of the season premier?

IFlashBack · December 21, 2011, 2:04pm

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
Anyone willing to take a bet on Dexter killing Deb within the first 5 minutes of the season premier?[/quote]

I think that Deb Kills herself. I understand that it’s supposed to be dramatic but lets look at her relationships:

Father that never truly loved her.
Dated Rudy, AKA Brian AKA Ice Truck Killer
Dated Lundy only to be left by him
Dated Anton, to watch him nearly get skinned alive
ReDated Lundy, To watch him get shot and killed right in front of her.
Nearly got married to quinn, arguably leaving the healthiest relationship she’ll ever have.
Discovers love for her brother, to (eventually) find out he’s a serial killer.

This isn’t shit that you can just “talk it out” with a therapist.

HoustonGuy · December 21, 2011, 2:10pm

[quote]IFlashBack wrote:

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
Anyone willing to take a bet on Dexter killing Deb within the first 5 minutes of the season premier?[/quote]

I think that Deb Kills herself. I understand that it’s supposed to be dramatic but lets look at her relationships:

Father that never truly loved her.
Dated Rudy, AKA Brian AKA Ice Truck Killer
Dated Lundy only to be left by him
Dated Anton, to watch him nearly get skinned alive
ReDated Lundy, To watch him get shot and killed right in front of her.
Nearly got married to quinn, arguably leaving the healthiest relationship she’ll ever have.
Discovers love for her brother, to (eventually) find out he’s a serial killer.

This isn’t shit that you can just “talk it out” with a therapist.

[/quote]
I bet you’re right. And I will be glad.

system · December 21, 2011, 2:12pm

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Not to mention, Trinity already killed Dexter’s wife, and now another crazy guy is targeting him.[/quote]

I still think trinity didn’t do it.[/quote]

I never really thought much about this, till I read it here. You might be right. Heres why, the trinity killer only kills in 3’s, right? each with a different mode of death. One is the drowning in the tub, with slicing of wrists, another is falling to their death. and another i think is being beaten with some sort of instrument. Dex’s wife would only make 1. That makes no sense at all.

system · December 21, 2011, 2:21pm

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Lets be honest.

99.5% of the season was lukewarm while the last 10 seconds were sizzling hot.

I also think it’s pretty obvious what we’ll see.

He’ll play the “this guy kidnapped my kid” angle and somehow tie it back to what happened to him at birth.

He won’t reveal to Debra that he moonlights as a serial killer. It would destroy the show.[/quote]

except that he vanished from a crime scene, and elaborated that huge methodical killing place as always, he will have some damn explaining to do.
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Your reply doesn’t negate anything I wrote.

He will chalk it up to getting revenge for kidnapping his kid and Debra will buy it.

He will have explaining to do, but revealing his dark passenger, his constant desire to kill will not be revealed to Debra. It wouldn’t work.

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As i stated in the thread that I created about the finale, that somehow managed to be forged into this one. I said that he will not admit to all his other killings. But, he will have to explain how Travis was expertly tied, plastic wrapped along with everything else.

Debra will accept his reasoning, cause she loves him and he his her brother. But, she will also know that this wasn’t some one time thing. It was a ritual of sorts. something he has done many many times over. To bad she missed the part of Dexter being the: Father, son & Serial killer.

I thought that was true dexter. so nice in public, but can be a true monster when he chooses to be. The way he mocked Travis’ belief in god and his “plan” was priceless.

system · December 21, 2011, 2:35pm

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Deb has already shown she?s willing to take a pass on the law, as she did with Deputy Chief Tom Matthews after learning of his involvement with a dead call girl- so, legally speaking, Dexter may not have much to worry about. However, Deb?s rocky personal life has been repeatedly shaken to its core, so that this shock may be too much for her embattled psyche to withstand.[/quote]
Exactly. The psychologist highlighting her broken trust in general, anchoring faith on Dexter and the weird love twist are exactly what I expected to lead in to her discovery.

Next season is going to be pretty fucked up though. Incestuous desire, betrayal, lieutenant level leverage… it will be intense if done right. I don’t think she is stupid though. Even if she can’t prove he is the “Bay Harbor Butcher” she will connect the dots in her head. I think she knew insantly. Possibly they will tie in a flashback to the Ice Truck close call but she’ll put it all together one way or another. Maybe she’ll blackmail him in to fucking.

We are going to have a spurned female aspect in the next season’s tone. Get ready for crazy and cat claws. Her last bastion of trust just let her down in a huge way, especially when she sees how Dexter has been undermining her investigations. He’s not just a killer to her.

And the hand… I still think Masuka will find out too, through the intern somehow.

I, too, am dissapointed Dexter chose the church given the circumstance. The careful, neat, Dexter that is the main character did not exist this season.

I realize it’s part of his metamorphosis to human understanding as he overrides his fathers “training” and his character grows but hopefully the writing is smoother next season.[/quote]

I don’t think she will ever black mail dex into having sex.lol I don’t see that happening. Dex is her brother. I don’t think deb loves dexter in that way, i think her shrink, for some reason or another is leading her to that conclusion. Plus, dex wouldn’t ever have any part of that.

Even if she turned dex in for killing travis, which she won’t, not a jury on earth would convict Dex for killing a guy who just killed 10 people and almost killed his son.

But knowing Deb, she is relentless. Shes nuts, but as a detective, she is relentless. She will not sleep, she will not do anything else but put together missing peices. Eventually, she will find out about dex. Even when she does, im doubtful, she will turn him in. I can honestly see, a very sad and tearful goodbye at the very end.

Dexter will not be caught and go to prison. thats something that will not happen. Deb may at the very end of the show, end up shooting dex. Deb may agree with what dex’ is doing and understand he is killing scumbags, but she will not, as a detective, be able to allow him to get away. there lies the problem. Dex will not kill deb or hurt her in any way. Therefore, he will be helpless in that regard.

I hope i am wrong with my prediction.

system · December 21, 2011, 2:38pm

[quote]Fat Bastard. wrote:
And how the fuck did Dexter manage to carry Travis down the building and into his car without anyone noticing? While that is not impossible, it certainly seems improbable.
And yeah, we all know that Dexter always carries a spare saline syringe, in case someone asks him to inject himself right?

Dexter now has to either kill Deb or I guess bone her. His son is certainly going to grow up to be a fine citizen.
Mother murdered (in front of his eyes, but too young I guess), dad is a serial killer who bones his non biological sister, who starts every sentence with nothing less than “motherfucking fuck”.

I’d be eagerly waiting for the show called “Harrision: Incest, murder and motherfuckingsisterfistercumdumpster”…[/quote]

He carried the spare, cause when he was affected with the gas, he tried to get travis with the needle, but being all messed up and dizzy, it didn’t workout to well. So travis already knew what dexter does with the needle. so dex brought that spare with the saline, just in case travis brought that up. Dexter does usually think a few moves ahead of his adversary.

HoustonGuy · December 21, 2011, 2:45pm

[quote]roguevampire wrote: