Wheres the study on those who do both. I weight train/bodybuild and do major cardio. Plus my weight has always been in the recommended perameter for my height. Maybe I will live forever!
[quote]shutupnlisten wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
We scientists know an awful lot about what triggers cancer! Some cancers are not connected with given causes, but so many (so many many many) carcinogens have been recognized. Such a douche thing to say! I mean, technically speaking we haven’t actually proven smoking causes cancer, it’s just correlated.
By the way, correlated means there’s a proven connection. If you take two hundred guys and get half of them to smoke a pack a day for twenty years which group is going to have a higher incidence of lung and mouth cancers!
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I never actually said any different; correlation isn’t causation. Using your example, many chain smokers don’t develop lung or mouth cancer because they don’t have a genetic predisposition to the conditions, those who do, and smoke daily most likely will.
An example of this is the zhang shuqing who claims the secret to his longetivity is drinking and smoking everyday. Does this mean everyone should start doing that? No. It’s obviously just down to good genetics and he wasn’t susceptible to such a condition.
You basically just reiterated what I said, but made it needlessly aggressive. You must REALLY suck as a writer since you seem to lack basic English comprehension skills.
And you’re attacking me, even though you yourself are making unfounded blanket statements. Man I know more than you and I haven’t even started college yet. ‘Scientist’ my ass lol, I bet you’re just a lab technician or something.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Rarely have I seen foods of the Earth to create problems for anyone.
That’s right… unless they’re altered through heavy processing. Artificial foods and additives are the real culprit. No enzymatic action in the body.
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Didn’t either of you even bother to read the link?
Yes meat is natural, our ancestors may have eaten it, but they ate it raw. Cooking meat produces carcinogenic compounds such as heterocyclic amines (HCA) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH). Even Berardi has acknowledged this in a number of his articles.
Maybe it’s about time you stopped being so arrogant and understand that you don’t know everything (in this case, you know jackshit)
[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
BFGarrett wrote:
As I understand it, essentially 100% of dead bodies have cancerous cells if you look closely enough, it’s just a ma
I remember reading somewhere(genuinely annoying me that I can’t remember where) that 100% of men would develop prostate cancer if we lived long enough[/quote]
I have heard this statement as well, I also forget where, but I think that it would be more due to outside factors rather than just plain old living. 50 years ago, hell not even that long ago, did you ever hear of prostate cancer? Cancer itself was nowhere near as big as it is now, and we have more environmental factors going on here than ever before. When I visited my family in Italy a few months ago, I was shocked at how strict their policies were for food. If you fucked with it in almost any way, it could not be sold. They won’t even consider eating meat from the US. They also have people by the dozens who are 100 yrs old or older with a great quality of life.
[quote]Yolked Up wrote:
shutupnlisten wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
We scientists know an awful lot about what triggers cancer! Some cancers are not connected with given causes, but so many (so many many many) carcinogens have been recognized. Such a douche thing to say! I mean, technically speaking we haven’t actually proven smoking causes cancer, it’s just correlated.
By the way, correlated means there’s a proven connection. If you take two hundred guys and get half of them to smoke a pack a day for twenty years which group is going to have a higher incidence of lung and mouth cancers!
I never actually said any different; correlation isn’t causation. Using your example, many chain smokers don’t develop lung or mouth cancer because they don’t have a genetic predisposition to the conditions, those who do, and smoke daily most likely will.
An example of this is the zhang shuqing who claims the secret to his longetivity is drinking and smoking everyday. Does this mean everyone should start doing that? No. It’s obviously just down to good genetics and he wasn’t susceptible to such a condition.
You basically just reiterated what I said, but made it needlessly aggressive. You must REALLY suck as a writer since you seem to lack basic English comprehension skills.
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Dude I really don’t know where to start, there’s so much wrong with what you said!
Read my posts again.
1)I want you to look at words like “control” and “correlation”, then look them up.
2)Read your own posts again, cause you don’t seem to understand them!
3)Where, oh where, did I say anything about chain smoking? try putting two thoughts together boyo.
4)One man as an example is the definition of a subpar study, the very definition! Now I know what kind of person generates the kind of poor data and shitty studies that leave the world confused…mmm…YOU!