Should I add vitamin E to my list of supplements? what dose?
(Currently i take:
multi-vitamin, vitamin c, calcuim magnesium zinc, green tea extracts, creatine, protein and fish oil starting with my next order.)
Thanks
Well i guess it depends on how many fish oil you are taking. basic idea is to take vit e to reduce the amount of fish oil or PUFAs being oxidised within the body.
I take 15 Fish oils a day and take 400 iu of Vit e with it.
[quote]hit the gym wrote:
Should I add vitamin E to my list of supplements? what dose?
(Currently i take:
multi-vitamin, vitamin c, calcuim magnesium zinc, green tea extracts, creatine, protein and fish oil starting with my next order.)
Thanks[/quote]
It can’t really hurt, and it is cheap and easy to come by. I take 1000 i.u.'s daily with the same size fish oil tab, a multi, a glucosamine/chondroitin, and a calcium/mag combo pill, all washed down with my PWO whey shake. Seems to do the trick. I would say go for it.
[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
It can’t really hurt, and it is cheap and easy to come by. I take 1000 i.u.'s daily with the same size fish oil tab, a multi, a glucosamine/chondroitin, and a calcium/mag combo pill, all washed down with my PWO whey shake. Seems to do the trick. I would say go for it.[/quote]
Explain “Seems to do the trick”? What actual benefit are you seeing?
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Digital Chainsaw wrote:
It can’t really hurt, and it is cheap and easy to come by. I take 1000 i.u.'s daily with the same size fish oil tab, a multi, a glucosamine/chondroitin, and a calcium/mag combo pill, all washed down with my PWO whey shake. Seems to do the trick. I would say go for it.
Explain “Seems to do the trick”? What actual benefit are you seeing?[/quote]
What I meant was taking all of these supplements when my body is nutrient-deficient after a workout seems to promote good uptake, judging from the near-luminescence of my piss hours later. I wasn’t really pointing to vitamin E itself. This is my fault for being wordier than neccessary. Just read my first and last sentences and disregard everything in the middle.
Vitamin does have that nasty habit of lower the risks of certain types of cancers, and making you live longer. I would only take it if you can handle the side effects.
Look up Dr. Lonnie Lowery’s article called Evil Antioxidants, if you want to use extra Vitamin E every day.
[quote]T Ham wrote:
Look up Dr. Lonnie Lowery’s article called Evil Antioxidants, if you want to use extra Vitamin E every day.[/quote]
Yep, for sure! The article made me drop down to only 200iu/day, and I’m doing just as “well” as I was during the years I took 400-1000iu/day.
PS, get the “100% natural, mixed tocopherol” type. Why? because after reading countless vitamin E threads here at the Nation, I’ve concluded that that’s the best type to take.
[quote]hit the gym wrote:
Should I add vitamin E to my list of supplements? what dose?
(Currently i take:
multi-vitamin, vitamin c, calcuim magnesium zinc, green tea extracts, creatine, protein and fish oil starting with my next order.)
Thanks[/quote]
At least 400 IU of vitamin E should be a part of every athletes diet.
But, make sure that you consume “mixed” Tocopherols.
A typical distribution looks like this:
-Gamma tocopherol
-Delta tocopherol
-Alpha tocopherol
-Beta tocopherol
A certain studiy was done not long attacking the validity of consuming vitamin E supplements. However, that study DID NOT use the “typical distribution” listed above. They used only Alpha tocopherol in the study. And using only this one type can cause a reduction of Gamma tocopherol. They must all be taken as a single dose.
In reality vitamin E is really a combination of the above. Taking any one of the above over the others is NOT recommended and can actually leave you worse off than if you had never taken any form of vitamin E.
Vitamin E in all of it’s forms (taken as a single dose) can be very beneficial for over all health and longevity.
The following list is quoted from another “supplement” based web site:
"Vitamin E does inhibit LDL oxidation whether induced by cells in culture or by copper ion in vitro. In addition, vitamin E could affect atherogenesis at a number of steps, based on the following in vitro observations:
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Vitamin E inhibits smooth muscle cell proliferation through inhibition of protein kinase C.
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Vitamin E inhibits platelet adhesion, aggregation, and platelet release reactions.
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Vitamin E inhibits plasma generation of thrombin, a potent endogenous hormone that binds to platelet receptors and induces aggregation.
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Vitamin E decreases monocyte adhesion to the endothelium by down-regulating expression of adhesion molecules and decreasing monocyte superoxide production.
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Vitamin E potentiates synthesis of prostacyclin, a potent vasodilator and inhibitor of platelet aggregation.
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Vitamin E mediates upregulation of the expression of cytosolic phospholipase A2 and cyclooxygenase.
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Vitamin E enrichment of endothelial cells in culture inhibits the expression of intracellular cell adhesion molecule and vascular cell adhesion molecule induced by exposure to oxidized LDL cholesterol."
One last thing Vitamin E is a fat soluble vitamin. Among other things this means that it is best taken with food preferably with Flameout (fish oil) or another healthy oil.
Good luck,
ZEB
[quote]ZEB wrote:
At least 400 IU of vitamin E should be a part of every athletes diet.
But, make sure that you consume “mixed” Tocopherols.
A certain studiy was done not long attacking the validity of consuming vitamin E supplements. However, that study DID NOT use the “typical distribution” listed above. They used only Alpha tocopherol in the study. And using only this one type can cause a reduction of Gamma tocopherol. They must all be taken as a single dose.
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This is excellent information. I had heard about this study from another source. Without resuscitating the debate over soy, are there any Vitamin Es that are not soy based? Even the wheat germ oil one I find (I only have looked at the Solgar Wheat germ oil) has soybean oil added to it?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
A certain studiy was done not long attacking the validity of consuming vitamin E supplements. However, that study DID NOT use the “typical distribution” listed above. They used only Alpha tocopherol in the study. And using only this one type can cause a reduction of Gamma tocopherol. They must all be taken as a single dose.
In reality vitamin E is really a combination of the above. Taking any one of the above over the others is NOT recommended and can actually leave you worse off than if you had never taken any form of vitamin E.
Vitamin E in all of it’s forms (taken as a single dose) can be very beneficial for over all health and longevity.
The following list is quoted from another “supplement” based web site:
"Vitamin E does inhibit LDL oxidation whether induced by cells in culture or by copper ion in vitro. In addition, vitamin E could affect atherogenesis at a number of steps, based on the following in vitro observations:
-
Vitamin E inhibits smooth muscle cell proliferation through inhibition of protein kinase C.
-
Vitamin E inhibits platelet adhesion, aggregation, and platelet release reactions.
-
Vitamin E inhibits plasma generation of thrombin, a potent endogenous hormone that binds to platelet receptors and induces aggregation.
-
Vitamin E decreases monocyte adhesion to the endothelium by down-regulating expression of adhesion molecules and decreasing monocyte superoxide production.
-
Vitamin E potentiates synthesis of prostacyclin, a potent vasodilator and inhibitor of platelet aggregation.
-
Vitamin E mediates upregulation of the expression of cytosolic phospholipase A2 and cyclooxygenase.
-
Vitamin E enrichment of endothelial cells in culture inhibits the expression of intracellular cell adhesion molecule and vascular cell adhesion molecule induced by exposure to oxidized LDL cholesterol."
One last thing Vitamin E is a fat soluble vitamin. Among other things this means that it is best taken with food preferably with Flameout (fish oil) or another healthy oil.
Good luck,
ZEB
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Interesting…
I know I took vitamin E all my life and things always seemed to be great, 10 years ago all these studies showed it was useless so I stopped. I haven’t felt the same since and just chalked it up to getting older. To bad its benefits are not timely quantitative.
Can anyone suggest a particular brand of Vitamin E with mixed top. Also are there any like discoveries on Vitamin C being taken safely in a particular way. (Sorry if that’s worded sort of poorly, i hope you guys can understand what i’m trying to say)