[quote]Christine wrote:
How about a fatties only locker room?[/quote]
x2. I hate having to squeeze between Jabba and the lockers to get to the door.
They make the sauna smell like rancid cheese crackers, too.
Bastards.
Get in and get out. I often think that the death of common courtesy not anyone being gay or not gay.
Locker room etiquette:
*It is not polite to stare even in the YouTube generation. Stop looking around like you are trying to find a bird. Your shit is in the locker in front of you and everything else around you looks the same. You want scenery - get a new screen saver.
*No one cares that you have a phone call. Not even if your kids have been hit by a flying saucer. They will still be in the hospitial when you leave the locker room.
*You are not dressing for a formal occassion that is happening as soon as you leave the gym. Every hair need not be in place and every crevace need not be dried and powdered. Cotton is abosorbant so you don’t need to blow dry your balls.
*We all know people at the gym. Last time I checked they don’t blare music in the locker room so stop talking like you are in a club and are trying to order a drink for the chick 7 people away from you and miles out of your league. Inside voices kids.
*Say excuse me and thank you if you need to get by someone at a distance that will bring you closer than the distance you whack off to your computer watching RedTube at home. It is called personal space douche bag.
*Have some patience. If you are in that much of a hurry you shouldn’t have come to the gym in the first place. Manage your time a little better and stop thinking that everyone must sacrifice something for your agenda.
(Did I mention there are LOTS of new people in the gym after New Years?)
[quote]Renton wrote:
(as long as it’s not using the dryer to waft your balls with one foot on table so they dangle just right).
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Is there an age requirement for this? it seems everybody 50+ at the gym does this shit.
Gay people please help me understand, are you guys not into sex like heterosexual men? Because me personally if I was in a locker room with women and I wasn’t checking her out she should be offended(she had to be one cockeyed big fat ugly acne prone cellulite having balding chin hair chest hair having broad).
So you guys are saying if your in a locker room full of men your saying you don’t check them out?
If thats the case why do we need seperate male and female locker rooms…oh I don’t want to step on a maxipad barefoot.
It would make logical sense on the same logical thought men and women are separated.
But then what do you do? Put a bunch of gay dudes in the same locker room or would they each have a private changing room? Or do you put them in with the women?
I don’t care really for the most part. Sometimes I notice people staring which is awkward. I just don’t make eye contact and they usually quit and google eye someone else for a response.
I don’t like the blatant homos looking for sex standing naked in the aisle, bending over obscenely when they really don’t need to be in a way that anyone coming around the corner can’t help but see etc etc. This doesn’t happen often but there is a guy on tuesday nights who is notorious for this.
Inappropriate behaviour should be dealt with for sure.
But as long as people respect the gym as a place to work out and not look for dick they don’t bother me gay or not.
I think we should experiment with coed locker rooms though and then all sex bets are off. Which makes me a hypocrite I suppose but so be it.
[quote]RWElder0 wrote:
Get in and get out. I often think that the death of common courtesy not anyone being gay or not gay.
Locker room etiquette:
*It is not polite to stare even in the YouTube generation. Stop looking around like you are trying to find a bird. Your shit is in the locker in front of you and everything else around you looks the same. You want scenery - get a new screen saver.
*No one cares that you have a phone call. Not even if your kids have been hit by a flying saucer. They will still be in the hospitial when you leave the locker room.
*You are not dressing for a formal occassion that is happening as soon as you leave the gym. Every hair need not be in place and every crevace need not be dried and powdered. Cotton is abosorbant so you don’t need to blow dry your balls.
*We all know people at the gym. Last time I checked they don’t blare music in the locker room so stop talking like you are in a club and are trying to order a drink for the chick 7 people away from you and miles out of your league. Inside voices kids.
*Say excuse me and thank you if you need to get by someone at a distance that will bring you closer than the distance you whack off to your computer watching RedTube at home. It is called personal space douche bag.
*Have some patience. If you are in that much of a hurry you shouldn’t have come to the gym in the first place. Manage your time a little better and stop thinking that everyone must sacrifice something for your agenda.
(Did I mention there are LOTS of new people in the gym after New Years?) [/quote]
Well some people lift before work and need to be in a suit with all hairs in place and a clean shaven face.
But yes, the rest of the rules should be followed.
And, in the sauna, don’t come in with three buddies and all try to talk over each other for 20 minutes. It is a relaxing place.
Don’t hold the door open while talking to someone outside. You let all the heat out and it takes a while to build up again.
Don’t blare your ipod so loud I can hear it too from across the Sauna. If I can hear the buds in your ears, I know you can and it’s probably loud enough you couldn’t tell a difference if you did turn it down a little.
Don’t bring the broomstick in and twist around. It’s a small room and you are making it difficult for everyone else to be comfortable too.
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Gay people please help me understand, are you guys not into sex like heterosexual men? Because me personally if I was in a locker room with women and I wasn’t checking her out she should be offended(she had to be one cockeyed big fat ugly acne prone cellulite having balding chin hair chest hair having broad).
So you guys are saying if your in a locker room full of men your saying you don’t check them out?
If thats the case why do we need seperate male and female locker rooms…oh I don’t want to step on a maxipad barefoot.[/quote]
haha, it’s not to say that I don’t find any of the guys at my gym attractive (I’ve changed from “we” to 1st person because I don’t know how the others go about this and am speaking from just my point of view), it’s just that I realize that there’s a time and place for it. I know how sensitive some straight guys are to it and essentially, I don’t want a beat down in the parking lot bc some dude thought I was checking him out in the locker room. Plus, I went to a military college that had community showers. I learned the eyes forward, get in, get out rule pretty quick, no matter how amazing the view was. I’m not in the locker room to sight see, I’m in there to do what I need to do and go.
Throw in the fact that I’m usually too damn exhausted from my workout to even think about sex, as it in itself is a pretty exhausting workout, hehe.
[quote]ktennies wrote:
Renton wrote:
I’ve been in mixed locker rooms in Sweden
I’ve never hear of these, though I’m not suprised. Do people ever hook up in those situations? If anything, I’d think there would be a lot of creepers hanging around.[/quote]
checks travelocity.com
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
Now since you read that you might want to start seeing a therapist about your own repressed homosexuality.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong.
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The guy doesn’t want to be leered at and he’s got a problem, requiring therapy yet? Tell that one to women who don’t appreciate you looking down their shirt.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Now since you read that you might want to start seeing a therapist about your own repressed homosexuality.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong.
The guy doesn’t want to be leered at and he’s got a problem, requiring therapy yet? Tell that one to women who don’t appreciate you looking down their shirt.
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Why should he give a fuck in the first place if a gay guy is looking? We are all visual creatures and he is doing whats in his nature. Big deal. Does looking hurt you? You inside yourself might think so but that is on you. Not the person looking.
And what I am talking about is why are you so uncomfortable or insecure it with it to begin with? Something inside you is triggering an emotion that makes you uncomfortable. That is why therapy might be needed if you feel that discrimination is necessary to solve those uncomfortable feelings.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong based on any reason. Case in point gyms that actively discourage heavy lifting. Just cause I am trying to gain most muscle I want, I can’t work out at that gym. Just cause some scrawny health enthusiast get intimidated. Stupid right? So why make gay guys change in an other room cause something makes you feel not right about it?
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Now since you read that you might want to start seeing a therapist about your own repressed homosexuality.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong.
The guy doesn’t want to be leered at and he’s got a problem, requiring therapy yet? Tell that one to women who don’t appreciate you looking down their shirt.
Why should he give a fuck in the first place if a gay guy is looking? We are all visual creatures and he is doing whats in his nature. Big deal. Does looking hurt you? You inside yourself might think so but that is on you. Not the person looking.
And what I am talking about is why are you so uncomfortable or insecure it with it to begin with? Something inside you is triggering an emotion that makes you uncomfortable. That is why therapy might be needed if you feel that discrimination is necessary to solve those uncomfortable feelings.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong based on any reason. Case in point gyms that actively discourage heavy lifting. Just cause I am trying to gain most muscle I want, I can’t work out at that gym. Just cause some scrawny health enthusiast get intimidated. Stupid right? So why make gay guys change in an other room cause something makes you feel not right about it?
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He paid his gym dues just like the woman who reports someone leering at her, to the gym manager. If she’s got a legitimate complaint, then so does he.
You’re turning his dislike into being leered at into some sort of witch hunt for discrimination.
If it was a casual glance, then he should ignore it. It concerned him enough to post it here, which leads me to suspect that he was made uncomfortable with his surroundings. Since he paid his dues, was he paying to be uncomfortable? And now you’re trying to lay a guilt trip on him and label him.
Why do many (like Prof X and you) feel it their job to turn everything into a witch hunt or some scene out of an Orwellian novel? Lighten up.
life’s to short to care about people looking at you.
Damn it, if anybody wants to check me out, let him.
If nobody wants to check me out anymore, that is when I´ll start to worry.
I have nothing against gay people. I also have yet to be raped by one so I will assume that there is a low risk of this happening.
It is a little late in the game to think that now is the time to have separate locker rooms. I am much more creeped out by those old guys who spend way more time in the locker room naked than they do lifting weights in the gym.
I admit those “flamboyant gays” that act more feminine than women make me wonder what the hell is wrong with them, but I still tend to think acting like that is nothing but an act. There is no gay gene that makes a guy wear neon and lace while acting like a woman on ecstasy.
[quote]orion wrote:
Damn it, if anybody wants to check me out, let him.
If nobody wants to check me out anymore, that is when I´ll start to worry.[/quote]
Exactly. I fear the day I get no attention.
Stupid idea. Who cares if a gay guy checks out your junk. Lucky for me, my gym is a few minutes from my house so i just shower there.
On another note, what is up with the guys who when they get out of the shower they just stand around naked? It’s always the older guys too. Put on some undies at least, geez.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Now since you read that you might want to start seeing a therapist about your own repressed homosexuality.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong.
The guy doesn’t want to be leered at and he’s got a problem, requiring therapy yet? Tell that one to women who don’t appreciate you looking down their shirt.
Why should he give a fuck in the first place if a gay guy is looking? We are all visual creatures and he is doing whats in his nature. Big deal. Does looking hurt you? You inside yourself might think so but that is on you. Not the person looking.
And what I am talking about is why are you so uncomfortable or insecure it with it to begin with? Something inside you is triggering an emotion that makes you uncomfortable. That is why therapy might be needed if you feel that discrimination is necessary to solve those uncomfortable feelings.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong based on any reason. Case in point gyms that actively discourage heavy lifting. Just cause I am trying to gain most muscle I want, I can’t work out at that gym. Just cause some scrawny health enthusiast get intimidated. Stupid right? So why make gay guys change in an other room cause something makes you feel not right about it?
He paid his gym dues just like the woman who reports someone leering at her, to the gym manager. If she’s got a legitimate complaint, then so does he.
You’re turning his dislike into being leered at into some sort of witch hunt for discrimination.
If it was a casual glance, then he should ignore it. It concerned him enough to post it here, which leads me to suspect that he was made uncomfortable with his surroundings. Since he paid his dues, was he paying to be uncomfortable? And now you’re trying to lay a guilt trip on him and label him.
Why do many (like Prof X and you) feel it their job to turn everything into a witch hunt or some scene out of an Orwellian novel? Lighten up.
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I’ll agree to disagree with you on this but its not a witch hunt. My point is making people use another room cause of discrimination of sexual orientation is wrong.
But your right if the guy is making google eyes at him and being suggestive then he should complain. Inappropriate behavior should not be tolerated by anyone. But not make “gays” change in a different room that is discrimination.
The reason people like prof-x and myself are strong on points like this might be cause we face discriminatory attitudes and we were told to lighten up and its not that bad. Until you can say you faced the same thing you can’t make that kind of statement. When we see this kind of thing as discriminatory we know it when we see it. I for one will speak up about it cause its the right thing to do.
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
AccipiterQ wrote:
Serious discussion here. If the point of a locker-room is that you can get changed with a minimal amount of leering, then wouldn’t it make sense to have different locker rooms? Of course it’d be unenforceable, but in theory it makes sense.
I’m only saying this because there are quite a few homosexuals at my gym. I have no problem with them. But every time I get changed I notice guys leering at me out of the corner of my eye, and when I look up, yup, sure enough.
They’re staring at my pen0r. It’s nothing special, it’s not like it looks like a 3rd leg or something, so I know it’s not that. one time these 2 gay guys were even having a conversation with each other, and when I turned around they had both been staring at my ass while I dried off. Do not want. 
I know a few gay guys, and understand that they aren’t “cock crazed deviants” that are in love with any naked man they see.
If a guy does like your body, take it as a compliment, explain you’re straight (if it comes to that), and move on. [/quote]
Except that explanation doesn’t work if you tried to apply it to women. “Hey listen, I’m no pussy-crazed deviant, but if I’m staring at your naked ass while you’re changing, explain that you’re not interested and move on.” Wouldnt fly.
The real problem with the all-gay lockerroom (aside from the impracticality) is that it still has the problem of a gay guy being checked out by another gay guy (one whom he doesnt want to have checking him out.) So yeah, maybe that would solve the problem for the straights, but not for the gays.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
It would make logical sense on the same logical thought men and women are separated.
But then what do you do? Put a bunch of gay dudes in the same locker room or would they each have a private changing room? Or do you put them in with the women?
I don’t care really for the most part. Sometimes I notice people staring which is awkward. I just don’t make eye contact and they usually quit and google eye someone else for a response.
I don’t like the blatant homos looking for sex standing naked in the aisle, bending over obscenely when they really don’t need to be in a way that anyone coming around the corner can’t help but see etc etc. This doesn’t happen often but there is a guy on tuesday nights who is notorious for this.
Inappropriate behaviour should be dealt with for sure.
But as long as people respect the gym as a place to work out and not look for dick they don’t bother me gay or not.
I think we should experiment with coed locker rooms though and then all sex bets are off. Which makes me a hypocrite I suppose but so be it.
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i agree that locker rooms should really be more focused on getting in and out. i do chat with friends while im in there but we have our clothes on. i really cant stand the old fucks walking around naked not even in a towel. and they always stand somewhere so that as soon as you walk in you have to see them. fucking gross.
if anyone is making someone else feel uncomfortable in a changing room they should definately be kicked out of the gym. having a gay dude check you out while you change is the equivelant to having a peephole to the girls showers. and i too am being hypocritical cause i would so use a peephole on girl showers.
Who the fuck cares who is staring at who. Gay, straight or bi? Does it really hurt you in any way for someone to be looking at you?
This goes for women as well as men.
As long as there is nothing inapropriate or aggressive then as far as I am concerned everyone can get changed in one room and wander round naked as long as they like. I am there to get showered and changed. If someone’s day is made happier by seeing me naked then the world is a slightly happier place.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I have nothing against gay people. I also have yet to be raped by one so I will assume that there is a low risk of this happening.
It is a little late in the game to think that now is the time to have separate locker rooms. I am much more creeped out by those old guys who spend way more time in the locker room naked than they do lifting weights in the gym.
I admit those “flamboyant gays” that act more feminine than women make me wonder what the hell is wrong with them, but I still tend to think acting like that is nothing but an act. There is no gay gene that makes a guy wear neon and lace while acting like a woman on ecstasy.[/quote]
LoL, yeah, those naked old men definitely creep me out, too.
As far as the queens go, it’s one thing I’ve learned to let go. I spent so much time trying to break that stereotype, especially when I first came out. After a while, I realized if it makes them happy, so be it, and it’s just not my thing. I just don’t let my sexuality define me (read “I’m probably one of the most masculine, ‘straight-acting’ gay dudes you’ll ever meet”). Some of them have contested that I’m not confident in my homosexuality, hence trying to overcompensate it by being masculine. Really not the case, it’s just who I am. I’m a dude that likes football, lifting, went to a military college, and about the millionth thing down the list is “oh yeah, and I like other dudes”.
aaaand back to the topic at hand. Yeah, there are some gays that don’t have the same outlook about the locker room as I do. Usually, in the case that they hit on you, a) take it as a compliment (as I do when girls hit on me, which can get annoying when they become dead set on being the one that “converts” me) and b) you can just tell them that you’re straight and they’ll back off.