Shooting In South Carolina

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Prof: Make Confederate Flag A Hate Crime

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/11/prof-make-confederate-flag-a-hate-crime/[/quote]

In our lifetime, Freedom of Speech will cease as we know it.

Racist speech and hate speech will be criminalized. Freedom of assembly will be regulated. Religious freedoms will be secondary to the state.

All it takes is some new SC justices, a few decisions, and let the erosion begin.

This is the end result of political correctness.

[/quote]

so true, and it’s sad.

Has all of the flag taking down and gay marriage stuff backfired? Did they poke the bear too much? People are really, really pissed off and I suspect that it will be felt in November.

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue). By the way this guy put the flag up AFTER the shooting? It looks like he just wanted some publicity. He makes no mention of calling the cops to track down the threats, he seems like some pussy that just caved to some protesters.

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
[/quote]

I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
[/quote]

I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

[/quote]

USMC,

It seems more likely he just didn’t want a bunch of sign carrying idiots marching in front of his building. If he really had death threats I’m sure he would have presented them to the police…or at least the news. Even the Incite Insight lady kept her “threat” for the cameras to look at (a threat of peaceful protest mind you).

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
[/quote]

I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

[/quote]

USMC,

It seems more likely he just didn’t want a bunch of sign carrying idiots marching in front of his building. If he really had death threats I’m sure he would have presented them to the police…or at least the news. Even the Incite Insight lady kept her “threat” for the cameras to look at (a threat of peaceful protest mind you).
[/quote]

My point was that no one in any thread has ever suggested coercion by society is appropriate.

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys [/quote] who is “you guys”? [quote]wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue). By the way this guy put the flag up AFTER the shooting? It looks like he just wanted some publicity [/quote]Is that a crime? Seems like a perfectly legal desire to me.[quote]. He makes no mention of calling the cops [/quote] you mean the ARTICLE makes no mention of it? [quote] to track down the threats, he seems like some pussy that just caved to some protesters. [/quote]

Let’s define “protester”. A “protester” is someone who gathers, holds a sign, maybe chants a slogan… You know, that stuff guaranteed in the Constitution. A “protester” does not make DEATH THREATS… DEATH THREATS are made by CRIMINALS. CRIMINAL =/= PROTESTER. What happened here was not caving to “protesters”. mmmmkay?

So you think that “we guys” want death threats? What on earth would cause you to arrive at that conclusion? Who want’s a death threat?

I’d say we want a healthy debate. We want to rub a Confederate flag in a liberal’s face by flying it on PRIVATE property. Kinda like what Obama did by turning the White House in a gay rainbow… Or when the LBGT people have their gay parachutes… That probably offended a lot of the country - certainly more people that were offended by a Confederate flag. How many of them got DEATH THREATS?

But that’s what the Left does: agree with us, or we will re-educate you the hard way. It’s classic Communism. But you call yourselves “inclusive” and “tolerant”… While making death threats against those that disagree with you… Gotcha…

And the MEDIA jumps right on the band wagon and actually CONDONES it. Instead of standing up for free speech, they call it “hate speech” (which is still Constitutional, by the way - that’s the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of the First Amendment) and fan the flames of “mob” opinion until some idiot feels justified in taking things from words to threats.

We all know that when minorities are angry they will riot and burn down business with no charges and no consequences. I mean, if we actually stopped them from breaking the LAW, that would be “racist”, right? And no one’s career can survive being called a “racist”. Once the Liberal MEDIA machine has you in it’s sights, it will chew you up, spit you out and you will be “banished” and left to wander the wilderness of political correctness with out a way to feed your family because you will be untouchable.

So how are those tactics justified? In your little liberal brain, can you please explain to us how this is acceptable?

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
[/quote]

I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

[/quote]

USMC,

It seems more likely he just didn’t want a bunch of sign carrying idiots marching in front of his building. If he really had death threats I’m sure he would have presented them to the police…or at least the news. Even the Incite Insight lady kept her “threat” for the cameras to look at (a threat of peaceful protest mind you).
[/quote]

My point was that no one in any thread has ever suggested coercion by society is appropriate. [/quote]

USMC,

Actually yes, you yourself have made the statement that society would literally destroy something they found to contrary to their belief system (I believe it is in regards to the bakery issue feel free to read the thread). There is no evidence he was threatened, just his word, is that enough for you in EVERY case or just one you agree with.

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
[/quote]

I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

[/quote]

USMC,

It seems more likely he just didn’t want a bunch of sign carrying idiots marching in front of his building. If he really had death threats I’m sure he would have presented them to the police…or at least the news. Even the Incite Insight lady kept her “threat” for the cameras to look at (a threat of peaceful protest mind you).
[/quote]

My point was that no one in any thread has ever suggested coercion by society is appropriate. [/quote]

USMC,

Actually yes, you yourself have made the statement that society would literally destroy something they found to contrary to their belief system (I believe it is in regards to the bakery issue feel free to read the thread). There is no evidence he was threatened, just his word, is that enough for you in EVERY case or just one you agree with.[/quote]

You’re kidding right?

I answered your hypothetical:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:
What about a muslim baker/baker/landlord/mechanic/doctor/store owner refusing to serve a jewish/christian/buddhist/female etc because it is against their religious beliefs?
[/quote]

They would figuratively and probably literally be destroyed by society. [/quote]

No where did I say that was acceptable

I did; however, say several times that society could use their dollars to enact change. Way to try and bastardize my point though.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys [/quote] who is “you guys”? [quote]wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue). By the way this guy put the flag up AFTER the shooting? It looks like he just wanted some publicity [/quote]Is that a crime? Seems like a perfectly legal desire to me.[quote]. He makes no mention of calling the cops [/quote] you mean the ARTICLE makes no mention of it? [quote] to track down the threats, he seems like some pussy that just caved to some protesters. [/quote]

Let’s define “protester”. A “protester” is someone who gathers, holds a sign, maybe chants a slogan… You know, that stuff guaranteed in the Constitution. A “protester” does not make DEATH THREATS… DEATH THREATS are made by CRIMINALS. CRIMINAL =/= PROTESTER. What happened here was not caving to “protesters”. mmmmkay?

So you think that “we guys” want death threats? What on earth would cause you to arrive at that conclusion? Who want’s a death threat?

I’d say we want a healthy debate. We want to rub a Confederate flag in a liberal’s face by flying it on PRIVATE property. Kinda like what Obama did by turning the White House in a gay rainbow… Or when the LBGT people have their gay parachutes… That probably offended a lot of the country - certainly more people that were offended by a Confederate flag. How many of them got DEATH THREATS?

But that’s what the Left does: agree with us, or we will re-educate you the hard way. It’s classic Communism. But you call yourselves “inclusive” and “tolerant”… While making death threats against those that disagree with you… Gotcha…

And the MEDIA jumps right on the band wagon and actually CONDONES it. Instead of standing up for free speech, they call it “hate speech” (which is still Constitutional, by the way - that’s the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of the First Amendment) and fan the flames of “mob” opinion until some idiot feels justified in taking things from words to threats.

We all know that when minorities are angry they will riot and burn down business with no charges and no consequences. I mean, if we actually stopped them from breaking the LAW, that would be “racist”, right? And no one’s career can survive being called a “racist”. Once the Liberal MEDIA machine has you in it’s sights, it will chew you up, spit you out and you will be “banished” and left to wander the wilderness of political correctness with out a way to feed your family because you will be untouchable.

So how are those tactics justified? In your little liberal brain, can you please explain to us how this is acceptable?[/quote]

ANgry,

Or it could be that he wanted some attention so he put up a confederate flag AFTER the shootings and the shit show that followed, and he ended up getting NEGATIVE attention so he made up a story about death threats to not look like such a pussy. By the way the protesters in the video looked super dangerous, a group of old women asking for some dude to stop being an asshat, I can see why this would be intimidating.

Gay rights folks get death threats daily (not every one of them of course) as do people at Planned Parenthood as do people at the NRA. The issue is that people are so entrenched in their beliefs that they want a 100% victory or they want the country to burn out of spite. Your retarded shit about “the people I’m referring to are better armed” is exactly my point. All of you “Revolution is coming” goofballs are just pissed that your belief system is becoming more marginalized every year, and instead of accepting majority rule you talk about what’s going to happen if…

By the way your comment about minorities pretty much sums up everything I need to know about how you think. Between 2003 and 2009 there were 2026 whites killed by police there were also 2600+ minorities killed by the police. Between 2004-2008 in Oakland alone there were 45 police shooting that resulted in fatalities, 37 were black, 8 were latino or other minorities, in 40% of those cases a weapon was not recovered and in 0% of those cases was a police officer charged with a crime. I am not apologizing for the rioting, they’re bullshit. But your little “we all know…” quote is a bit off base. It’s an accumulation of abuse that leads to the riots. New York City is paying Eric Garners family $5.9 million in a wrongful death settlement, yet the cops that were involved weren’t charged. Hmmm.

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys [/quote] who is “you guys”? [quote]wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue). By the way this guy put the flag up AFTER the shooting? It looks like he just wanted some publicity [/quote]Is that a crime? Seems like a perfectly legal desire to me.[quote]. He makes no mention of calling the cops [/quote] you mean the ARTICLE makes no mention of it? [quote] to track down the threats, he seems like some pussy that just caved to some protesters. [/quote]

Let’s define “protester”. A “protester” is someone who gathers, holds a sign, maybe chants a slogan… You know, that stuff guaranteed in the Constitution. A “protester” does not make DEATH THREATS… DEATH THREATS are made by CRIMINALS. CRIMINAL =/= PROTESTER. What happened here was not caving to “protesters”. mmmmkay?

So you think that “we guys” want death threats? What on earth would cause you to arrive at that conclusion? Who want’s a death threat?

I’d say we want a healthy debate. We want to rub a Confederate flag in a liberal’s face by flying it on PRIVATE property. Kinda like what Obama did by turning the White House in a gay rainbow… Or when the LBGT people have their gay parachutes… That probably offended a lot of the country - certainly more people that were offended by a Confederate flag. How many of them got DEATH THREATS?

But that’s what the Left does: agree with us, or we will re-educate you the hard way. It’s classic Communism. But you call yourselves “inclusive” and “tolerant”… While making death threats against those that disagree with you… Gotcha…

And the MEDIA jumps right on the band wagon and actually CONDONES it. Instead of standing up for free speech, they call it “hate speech” (which is still Constitutional, by the way - that’s the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of the First Amendment) and fan the flames of “mob” opinion until some idiot feels justified in taking things from words to threats.

We all know that when minorities are angry they will riot and burn down business with no charges and no consequences. I mean, if we actually stopped them from breaking the LAW, that would be “racist”, right? And no one’s career can survive being called a “racist”. Once the Liberal MEDIA machine has you in it’s sights, it will chew you up, spit you out and you will be “banished” and left to wander the wilderness of political correctness with out a way to feed your family because you will be untouchable.

So how are those tactics justified? In your little liberal brain, can you please explain to us how this is acceptable?[/quote]

ANgry,

Or it could be that he wanted some attention so he put up a confederate flag AFTER the shootings and the shit show that followed, and he ended up getting NEGATIVE attention so he made up a story about death threats to not look like such a pussy. By the way the protesters in the video looked super dangerous, a group of old women asking for some dude to stop being an asshat, I can see why this would be intimidating.[/quote] And MAYBE a shugarplum fairy turned his guns into lollipops… You are not dealing with facts, you are making up imaginary scenarios. A news source reported that he received death threats. Are you saying YOUR imaginary scenario is more credible than that? If not, then STFU.[quote]

Gay rights folks get death threats daily (not every one of them of course) as do people at Planned Parenthood as do people at the NRA. The issue is that people are so entrenched in their beliefs that they want a 100% victory or they want the country to burn out of spite. Your retarded shit about “the people I’m referring to are better armed” is exactly my point. All of you “Revolution is coming” goofballs are just pissed that your belief system is becoming more marginalized every year, and instead of accepting majority rule you talk about what’s going to happen if… [/quote]But it’s NOT “majority rule”. It’s the minority jamming it’s beliefs down the MAJORITY’S throat. And it’s not even about a belief system about gays or blacks or <<>>, it’s about the erosion of the CONSTITUTION. It’s about a charge toward Socialism, Communism and ultimately FASCISM. But you Progressives are fine with that, right?[quote]

By the way your comment about minorities pretty much sums up everything I need to know about how you think.[/quote]Wow. That’s a pretty amazing talent you have there. Taking ONE sentence and “knowing how I think”. You people never cease to amaze me! LMAO And let me guess, since you “know” my thinking is “wrong”, you feel entitled to “correct it”, right? By force if necessary? Good luck with that…[quote] Between 2003 and 2009 there were 2026 whites killed by police there were also 2600+ minorities killed by the police. Between 2004-2008 in Oakland alone there were 45 police shooting that resulted in fatalities, 37 were black, 8 were latino or other minorities, in 40% of those cases a weapon was not recovered and in 0% of those cases was a police officer charged with a crime. I am not apologizing for the rioting, they’re bullshit. But your little “we all know…” quote is a bit off base. It’s an accumulation of abuse that leads to the riots. New York City is paying Eric Garners family $5.9 million in a wrongful death settlement, yet the cops that were involved weren’t charged. Hmmm.
[/quote]

You obviously haven’t read my posting history if you are coming at ME with police brutality stats LOL. I probably feel more strongly about that than you do, having been the target of State sponsored brutality more than once. And I’m a White guy! So guess what? IT DIDN’T MAKE THE NEWS… Apparently, I’m the wrong color for the MEDIA to give a shit about. Now if I were Black/Brown/Yellow/etc… THEN it would have been worth their while to report on because it could be construed as RACIST!!! Never mind the fact that on several occasions the cops that beat MY ass were black… But we all know, that BLACKS aren’t racist… No, not them! ONLY THE EVIL WHITE MAN CAN BE RACIT!!!

Right? Isn’t that your libtard logic?

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys [/quote] who is “you guys”? [quote]wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue). By the way this guy put the flag up AFTER the shooting? It looks like he just wanted some publicity [/quote]Is that a crime? Seems like a perfectly legal desire to me.[quote]. He makes no mention of calling the cops [/quote] you mean the ARTICLE makes no mention of it? [quote] to track down the threats, he seems like some pussy that just caved to some protesters. [/quote]

Let’s define “protester”. A “protester” is someone who gathers, holds a sign, maybe chants a slogan… You know, that stuff guaranteed in the Constitution. A “protester” does not make DEATH THREATS… DEATH THREATS are made by CRIMINALS. CRIMINAL =/= PROTESTER. What happened here was not caving to “protesters”. mmmmkay?

So you think that “we guys” want death threats? What on earth would cause you to arrive at that conclusion? Who want’s a death threat?

I’d say we want a healthy debate. We want to rub a Confederate flag in a liberal’s face by flying it on PRIVATE property. Kinda like what Obama did by turning the White House in a gay rainbow… Or when the LBGT people have their gay parachutes… That probably offended a lot of the country - certainly more people that were offended by a Confederate flag. How many of them got DEATH THREATS?

But that’s what the Left does: agree with us, or we will re-educate you the hard way. It’s classic Communism. But you call yourselves “inclusive” and “tolerant”… While making death threats against those that disagree with you… Gotcha…

And the MEDIA jumps right on the band wagon and actually CONDONES it. Instead of standing up for free speech, they call it “hate speech” (which is still Constitutional, by the way - that’s the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of the First Amendment) and fan the flames of “mob” opinion until some idiot feels justified in taking things from words to threats.

We all know that when minorities are angry they will riot and burn down business with no charges and no consequences. I mean, if we actually stopped them from breaking the LAW, that would be “racist”, right? And no one’s career can survive being called a “racist”. Once the Liberal MEDIA machine has you in it’s sights, it will chew you up, spit you out and you will be “banished” and left to wander the wilderness of political correctness with out a way to feed your family because you will be untouchable.

So how are those tactics justified? In your little liberal brain, can you please explain to us how this is acceptable?[/quote]

ANgry,

Or it could be that he wanted some attention so he put up a confederate flag AFTER the shootings and the shit show that followed, and he ended up getting NEGATIVE attention so he made up a story about death threats to not look like such a pussy. By the way the protesters in the video looked super dangerous, a group of old women asking for some dude to stop being an asshat, I can see why this would be intimidating.[/quote] And MAYBE a shugarplum fairy turned his guns into lollipops… You are not dealing with facts, you are making up imaginary scenarios. A news source reported that he received death threats. Are you saying YOUR imaginary scenario is more credible than that? If not, then STFU.[quote]

Gay rights folks get death threats daily (not every one of them of course) as do people at Planned Parenthood as do people at the NRA. The issue is that people are so entrenched in their beliefs that they want a 100% victory or they want the country to burn out of spite. Your retarded shit about “the people I’m referring to are better armed” is exactly my point. All of you “Revolution is coming” goofballs are just pissed that your belief system is becoming more marginalized every year, and instead of accepting majority rule you talk about what’s going to happen if… [/quote]But it’s NOT “majority rule”. It’s the minority jamming it’s beliefs down the MAJORITY’S throat. And it’s not even about a belief system about gays or blacks or <<>>, it’s about the erosion of the CONSTITUTION. It’s about a charge toward Socialism, Communism and ultimately FASCISM. But you Progressives are fine with that, right?[quote]

By the way your comment about minorities pretty much sums up everything I need to know about how you think.[/quote]Wow. That’s a pretty amazing talent you have there. Taking ONE sentence and “knowing how I think”. You people never cease to amaze me! LMAO And let me guess, since you “know” my thinking is “wrong”, you feel entitled to “correct it”, right? By force if necessary? Good luck with that…[quote] Between 2003 and 2009 there were 2026 whites killed by police there were also 2600+ minorities killed by the police. Between 2004-2008 in Oakland alone there were 45 police shooting that resulted in fatalities, 37 were black, 8 were latino or other minorities, in 40% of those cases a weapon was not recovered and in 0% of those cases was a police officer charged with a crime. I am not apologizing for the rioting, they’re bullshit. But your little “we all know…” quote is a bit off base. It’s an accumulation of abuse that leads to the riots. New York City is paying Eric Garners family $5.9 million in a wrongful death settlement, yet the cops that were involved weren’t charged. Hmmm.
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You obviously haven’t read my posting history if you are coming at ME with police brutality stats LOL. I probably feel more strongly about that than you do, having been the target of State sponsored brutality more than once. And I’m a White guy! So guess what? IT DIDN’T MAKE THE NEWS… Apparently, I’m the wrong color for the MEDIA to give a shit about. Now if I were Black/Brown/Yellow/etc… THEN it would have been worth their while to report on because it could be construed as RACIST!!! Never mind the fact that on several occasions the cops that beat MY ass were black… But we all know, that BLACKS aren’t racist… No, not them! ONLY THE EVIL WHITE MAN CAN BE RACIT!!!

Right? Isn’t that your libtard logic?
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Angry,

The media reported that “he stated he had received death threats”. That’s not an imaginary scenario, that’s what happened. However if you want to accept everything the TV news says as gospel that is fine also, it just seems at odds with your other posts where you slam the liberal media for their cherry picking of facts.

I don’t feel the need to correct how you think, I also don’t feel the need to point out that the entire country votes for the president, the state for the governor, the city for the mayor and the person with the most votes wins. That is a pretty good example of majority rule.

I was not “coming at you” about police brutality stats, I also don’t give two shits that you are an ex-con, however the reason your story didn’t make the news is probably because you were not shot and killed by a police department with a history of civil rights abuses. If you were standing on a corner unarmed, and a cop drove up and shot you that would probably make the news (though undoubtedly it would be a better story if you were shot by a cop of a different race because the news favors those things).

By the way I am not anti-cop, my best friend is an 18 year veteran of the NYPD, he was in my wedding, I was best man at his and in 2012 he was shot twice while doing his job. He’s still a cop, still a good guy and still catches shit every day from people riding that anti-cop sentiment. I just can’t stand dirty cops.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
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I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

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USMC,

It seems more likely he just didn’t want a bunch of sign carrying idiots marching in front of his building. If he really had death threats I’m sure he would have presented them to the police…or at least the news. Even the Incite Insight lady kept her “threat” for the cameras to look at (a threat of peaceful protest mind you).
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My point was that no one in any thread has ever suggested coercion by society is appropriate. [/quote]

USMC,

Actually yes, you yourself have made the statement that society would literally destroy something they found to contrary to their belief system (I believe it is in regards to the bakery issue feel free to read the thread). There is no evidence he was threatened, just his word, is that enough for you in EVERY case or just one you agree with.[/quote]

You’re kidding right?

I answered your hypothetical:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:
What about a muslim baker/baker/landlord/mechanic/doctor/store owner refusing to serve a jewish/christian/buddhist/female etc because it is against their religious beliefs?
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They would figuratively and probably literally be destroyed by society. [/quote]

No where did I say that was acceptable

I did; however, say several times that society could use their dollars to enact change. Way to try and bastardize my point though. [/quote]

USMC,

ALright, so you stated more or less that rather than force legal changes it would just all work itself out (possibly with violence though you don’t condone it). So instead of being proactive with an issue, you would rather wait for a tragedy and then watch the laws be changed? I’m not trying to twist your words, it’s just that there are always repercussions for inaction, and they are usually worse than the original, annoying, but tame in comparison, proposals.

Again, there is no evidence that the gun shop guy received death threats, just his word. This is also a guy that saw a mass shooting, a shit storm erupt over the flag, and decided to put one up in front of his store to show his support for…what exactly? Free speech? Then some people protest and he takes it down, blames death threats and liberals and you buy his whole story.

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:
If you were standing on a corner unarmed, and a cop drove up and shot you that would probably make the news (though undoubtedly it would be a better story if you were shot by a cop of a different race because the news favors those things).[/quote]

Wrong, black on white crime is NOT reported at nearly the rate of white on black crime. Even though blacks are only about 12% of the population there is more black on white crime than vice versa.

And of course the liberal media’s absolute favorite scenario, a white cop harms a black person .

Did not want to bud in but I had to correct that one particular line.

By the way can you rattle off the name of the white woman who was shot by the illegal Mexican immigrant? No? But I bet you know who Tyrone Martin is no doubt…see what I mean?

Okay get back to your debate.

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Gun shop flying Confederate flag receives DEATH THREATS from the tolerant left…

And they caved.

But the MEDIA celebrates it as a victory instead of what it is: an individual practicing his free speech (a legal activity protected under the Constitution) being intimidated by DEATH THREATS (an ILLEGAL act designed to repress free speech).

I guess speech isn’t free unless you are Gay/Black/Brown/Illegal Alien/Female/<>

The truth is, a lot of “everyday people” that I talk to are getting pretty fed up with all of this nonsense. As in we may be reaching a tipping point soon. If the Left thinks they can just take and take and take, they shouldn’t be surprised if the people they are trampling decide to “take back”… And the people I’m referring to are better armed.[/quote]

Angry,

I thought this is what you guys wanted? I just had this discussion in another thread and it seems as if this is what the right wants to happen rather than courts legislating (letting public pressure force the issue).
[/quote]

I doubt anyone was talking about coercion via death threats…

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USMC,

It seems more likely he just didn’t want a bunch of sign carrying idiots marching in front of his building. If he really had death threats I’m sure he would have presented them to the police…or at least the news. Even the Incite Insight lady kept her “threat” for the cameras to look at (a threat of peaceful protest mind you).
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My point was that no one in any thread has ever suggested coercion by society is appropriate. [/quote]

USMC,

Actually yes, you yourself have made the statement that society would literally destroy something they found to contrary to their belief system (I believe it is in regards to the bakery issue feel free to read the thread). There is no evidence he was threatened, just his word, is that enough for you in EVERY case or just one you agree with.[/quote]

You’re kidding right?

I answered your hypothetical:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:
What about a muslim baker/baker/landlord/mechanic/doctor/store owner refusing to serve a jewish/christian/buddhist/female etc because it is against their religious beliefs?
[/quote]

They would figuratively and probably literally be destroyed by society. [/quote]

No where did I say that was acceptable

I did; however, say several times that society could use their dollars to enact change. Way to try and bastardize my point though. [/quote]

USMC,

ALright, so you stated more or less that rather than force legal changes it would just all work itself out (possibly with violence though you don’t condone it). [/quote]

It would work itself out and violence should be punished if it occurs.

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So instead of being proactive with an issue, you would rather wait for a tragedy and then watch the laws be changed? [/quote]

No, I would rather the people be proactive and create change rather than the government force change and I don’t want to hear about waiting until a tragedy occurs and then watch laws change. Ask Kate Steinle’s family how they feel about that.

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I’m not trying to twist your words, it’s just that there are always repercussions for inaction, and they are usually worse than the original, annoying, but tame in comparison, proposals. [/quote]

There are also always repercussions to action and I doubt inaction is usually worse.

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Again, there is no evidence that the gun shop guy received death threats, just his word. [/quote]

Has nothing to do with my point.

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This is also a guy that saw a mass shooting, a shit storm erupt over the flag, and decided to put one up in front of his store to show his support for…what exactly? Free speech? Then some people protest and he takes it down, blames death threats and liberals and you buy his whole story. [/quote]

Jesus Christ… I didn’t’ “buy” anything. All I said was that the right (on this board) never said they wanted change via COERCION. It is unacceptable and just as bad as forced change via government.

“By the way the protesters in the video looked super dangerous, a group of old women asking for some dude to stop being an asshat, I can see why this would be intimidating.”

Don’t underestimate a group of old women… Prohibition for one