You keep calling people “creeps” but your the one obsessing about 18yo girls.
Why would you block me? Because I questioned your post? You want discussion but if it doean’t go your way you just block the people that don’t agree?
What’s wrong with this post? Seems like most people agree with what i’m asking about.
All of the threads you start seem to goo downhill pretty quickly.
You clearly have some mental health problems. Do you need guidance?
You should try letting your thoughts bump into each other before saying something you think is smart.
….dont look a gift block in the mouth…. 
Without knowing her actual training history along with her heritage… its a hard call to make imo.
If we can tell who is on steroids by looking at them, why is WADA doing it the hard way?
Ill do you one better ,unless your actually directly competing with someone or it is somehow has a direct negative effect on you. What does it honestly matter?
Its been awhile since I have seen one of these natty or not threads. Haven’t missed them.
Yet the girl doesn’t have much of any rear delts. If you are judging AAS use by significant deltoid development, remember that typically the rear delts also have a higher density of androgen receptor sites than other body parts.
I still see nothing that even hints at AAS use.
The argument is always that it “sets false expectations” for natural lifters and they’ll get disappointed with the natural growth.
Meanwhile, I grew up looking up to Arnold and Hulk Hogan, and by the time I learned WHAT a steroid was, it was too late, because I had already learned how to train hard.
I once wound up on Natty or Not on Reddit. I was flattered.
Yeah… thats always been one of the arguments that gets thrown out.
Personally I find it is a double edge sword. In certain situations it causes low expectations in certain lifters. Too the point they either stop trying once the reach a certain point or they hop on gear way too soon.
Just my 2 cents.
Comical how many guys are taking enough gear to choke a horse and never reach even that.
Honestly THIS is why we need more dudes to be upfront about usage. I think the real unrealistic expectations are on how much gear can help.
If kids knew how many dudes were blasting stupid levels of gear to look like a lump of mashed potatoes, they would realize it isn’t worth it if you don’t have training and diet dialed in.
When I was competing I never worried about how much AAS others were taking. The real concern was always the genetic potential of the competitors taking even small amounts of AAS.
I saw far more than my share of “sinks” taking AAS and never looking like they built any muscle. (They might as well have poured those AAS down the kitchen sink.)
I’m going to agree.
My wife was a competitive skater and at 16, she blows away the person in question.
There are just some genetically blessed folks.
A real athlete that has strength, coordination, and the endurance to complete an ice program.
Yep exactly… it always amazes me the number of guys pop on here asking about how to run gear. But their diet and training knowledge is ass. I have this weird philosophy you got to earn the right to Darkside it. IF after a few years you haven’t reach a level of strength/development that is at least respectable for your average indvidual. Either your diet and training sucks or your lazy . Worst yet your genetics just suck and you will want to rethink things. Because let’s be honest gear isnt going to clear all that shit up. At best its a band aid.
I like this phrase.
scientific validity
cause taking steroids without working out will gain you more muscle and strength than someone who works out without using steroids.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
all gear users who say steroids does jack shit if you dont train are on real time 24/7 copium
