Lateralus: Sure, but don’t overdo it.
Polish: Correct.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
Another question, silly as it may sound.
Sheiko has “Deadlift to knees” and “Deadlifts from pins.”
I’m assuming “to knees” is a conventional DL and “from pins” is a rack pull just below the knee?
Thanks guys.[/quote]
Deadlift to knees means just that, a Deadlift that STOPS when you reach knee level. It is NOT a full conventional deadlift. Take a look at some of Wade Hooper’s videos on youtube (hoop165) to see what I mean. It feels awkward at first but it is designed to help your initial pull.
For the deadlift from pins I set it right at or just above the knee. That way, when coupled with the DL to the knee you work the full range of motion but in two distinct sessions.
Just my 2 cents. Am on week 3 of #29 and loving it, but oh my is it brutal.
Thor is correct, deadlift to knees is a halting deadlift.
I hate deadlift to the knees. Just feels wrong to stop halfway through 
[quote]ultimatethor wrote:
Deadlift to knees means just that, a Deadlift that STOPS when you reach knee level. It is NOT a full conventional deadlift. Take a look at some of Wade Hooper’s videos on youtube (hoop165) to see what I mean. It feels awkward at first but it is designed to help your initial pull.
For the deadlift from pins I set it right at or just above the knee. That way, when coupled with the DL to the knee you work the full range of motion but in two distinct sessions.
Just my 2 cents. Am on week 3 of #29 and loving it, but oh my is it brutal.[/quote]
Thanks Thor…
I’ll definitely look into that. I’ve never performed one in that fashion, but I’m willing to try.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
ultimatethor wrote:
Deadlift to knees means just that, a Deadlift that STOPS when you reach knee level. It is NOT a full conventional deadlift. Take a look at some of Wade Hooper’s videos on youtube (hoop165) to see what I mean. It feels awkward at first but it is designed to help your initial pull.
For the deadlift from pins I set it right at or just above the knee. That way, when coupled with the DL to the knee you work the full range of motion but in two distinct sessions.
Just my 2 cents. Am on week 3 of #29 and loving it, but oh my is it brutal.
Thanks Thor…
I’ll definitely look into that. I’ve never performed one in that fashion, but I’m willing to try.
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Yeah, it’s odd but everything in a Sheiko program is there for a reason, so give it a fair try.
And i’m assuming deadlift from boxes is from a slight raise? I was going to do it off either weight plates or those athletics steps.
Its inspiring to hear about people having success with sheiko, i’m definitely trying it next. I’ve never done a program with this much volume, so i’m looking forward to trying it.
One question, has anybody done sheiko with a calorie deficit? It looks like a program you may need to eat a lot on, just curious if anybody has used it to maintain strength whilst losing weight. i am a junior for one more year and was thinking that i would stand a better chance of placing in the nationals if i were in the 82.5kg class rather than the 90s. I’m 22% bodyfat if that helps…
From boxes is the same as rack pulls/pin pulls. The movement start from either just below, or just above the knees.
[quote]tmcg86 wrote:
And i’m assuming deadlift from boxes is from a slight raise? I was going to do it off either weight plates or those athletics steps.
Its inspiring to hear about people having success with sheiko, i’m definitely trying it next. I’ve never done a program with this much volume, so i’m looking forward to trying it.
One question, has anybody done sheiko with a calorie deficit? It looks like a program you may need to eat a lot on, just curious if anybody has used it to maintain strength whilst losing weight.
i am a junior for one more year and was thinking that i would stand a better chance of placing in the nationals if i were in the 82.5kg class rather than the 90s. I’m 22% bodyfat if that helps…[/quote]
Anything that raises you off the floor a bit should be fine, as long as it is sturdy and stable. Sheiko is not the time to be doing stability training. 
BTW, I am currently doing Sheiko while at a caloric deficit. I do carb cycling, so I just make my Squat days my high carb days and all the others low carb/low calorie.
Yes, even the Deadlift days. It is tough, but you can make it work. A lot of other people have said they have trimmed up while doing Sheiko, just don’t go overboard with the calorie restriction.
Also try to have some simple carbs like waxy maize or Vitargo during your workout along with some aminos to help keep your energy levels up.
Best of luck!
I took a hint from one of the trainers at my gym and hold the bar at my knee for 1 second before lowering when doing deadlift to knees.
When on a day that I bench twice I bringing my grip about 1 inch closer on each side the second time I bench. Hoping it will work the triceps more.
Thanks for the advice ultimatethor, good to hear dieting is possible, however unpleasant 
Joburnet, I was thinking of trying somethinig similar with bench grips, i searched for it in this forum and someone mentioned doing it but never mentioned if it worked.
I wasn’t sure if changing the grip changes the exercise too much, i guess it shouldn’t if the difference in grips is minimal, and there’s your 5lb PR to back it up. I didn’t want to make huge change the program because it clearly works as is but not doing the same grip every time really appealed to me.
Saving the joints: its not just for old people anymore
Just to give a little update - I made it through the first week and I’m still alive. My chest has been continuously sore since Sunday night. Glutes still sore from Tuesday’s Dead-A-Thon.
This morning I added a back/prehab day since I felt up for it. Just did some higher rep DB rows, pullups, pulldowns, and rear delt work. Spent about a half hour doing it.
I have some triceps pain in my left arm, but it’s not muscular - I think it’s due to a pinched nerve in my upper back/neck. That went out of whack about a month ago, didn’t keep me out of the gym for more than a few days.
The pain didn’t affect any of my lifts, I merely had to sleep without a pillow for a few weeks. I think this just the residual pain.
All in all, I survived the week and am looking forward to Sunday where I begin week 2.
The first week is usually the hardest, impaler. At least if you’ve never done sheiko before, or if it’s a long time since you did it. Keep it up
Thanks for the support. I’m feeling pretty good. Body’s feels almost totally recovered. The tricep pain is gone. All that’s sore right now are my biceps/forearms from some curls I did yesterday.
Also, if interested, I’m keeping a log of it all. It also has everything I’ve done for the past 6 months when I was doing WS4SB3. Newest stuff is at the top, oldest at the bottom.
Forgot to include the link
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=piStZDuzNAJctFPQ9q8faaw
[quote]molnes wrote:
The first week is usually the hardest, impaler. At least if you’ve never done sheiko before, or if it’s a long time since you did it. Keep it up :)[/quote]
Wait until you get to week 3…
For the bench grips, I try to rotate them during the sets i.e. one set with index finger on rings, one with middle, one with ring, etc. I also sometimes change the angle of the bench during my flies (one set flat, one set incline #1, etc.), to mix it up and keep it from being too monotonous. I am entering week 4 of #29 and loving it!
Just finished week 2 of Sheiko 29. I have a little joint pain in my left elbow and knees from all the work, but overall feeling pretty good.
I upped my last heavy set of bench today by 10 lbs. I’ve also been doing all of Friday’s benching with a pause at the bottom. I felt like I could have done even more, but I figure I shouldn’t push it considering how brutal next week will be. I also upped my last squats a bit as well.
Gonna do some back work and some prehab and bis for fun tomorrow. Can’t wait til Sunday to begin week 3.
Here’s the log again
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=piStZDuzNAJctFPQ9q8faaw
Nice work impaler.
I don’t mean to hijack, but I will be finishing Stephan Korte’s 3x3 program this Friday. 8 weeks of pure, unadulterated ass-kickings in the gym - It’s been tremendous.
I plan on taking next week off and then I’m jumping feet first into Sheiko.
It’s inspiring to see everyone’s feedback on this program.
Looking forward to more brutality.
Sorry to bump this but I’m intrigued with the progress some of you have made.
My question- I do BJJ twice a week- more a hobby than anything, haven’t competed yet but my gym offers classes.
Sorry- you didn’t ask for my life story… anyway would sheiko be too much volume considering that?
I play soccer twice a week while doing Sheiko. I think my game has been a little off due to weight lifting but no problems in the gym. My suggestion would be to try it and see what happens.