[quote]osu122975 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]osu122975 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]osu122975 wrote:
Simple and VERY effective.
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bw? You better be pretty light for those #s to back up your training ideas…
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I don’t really need to defend my bw but i’m in the 242 class.
They work for me and for others who have used it. It is simple and very effective.
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Thing is that it doesn’t seem to work for YOU. For a 242 your numbers are shit and don’t give me the genetics crap. Anyway, I don’t want to be a dick to you for no good reason, but people dishing out advice should have something decent to back it up. If they don’t have that they should not make significant claims.[/quote]
Even if my numbers are shit in comparison to other lifters, how can you say it doesn’t work for me if I’ve made increases using it? If my training partner at age 54 has made a 55lb increase to DL and 33lb bench drug free in less than 2 years uses it and has made gains w/ it, how can you say it doesn’t work? If my bench was at 310 in Jan 2013 and in December I hit 352 in competition, how does that not work? When’s the last time you made those kinds of gains on any lift? Just because it’s not a 500lb raw bench press??? Or an 800lb raw squat?
And those who don’t know any better say “genetics don’t mean shit”. Again, look at the top level lifters particularly those very young…You’re telling me it doesn’t mean anything? It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality. If we all trained the same, ate the same, slept the same w/ the same body type and body weight, some would lift more weight than others. Look at how the Russians and Bulgarians got their weightlifters. GENETICS MATTER!
But if a program works, then it works. If it keeps you healthy and lifting more weight over time, it works. Boris Sheiko dishes it out and can’t lift shit. He’s trained thousands. I’ve helped some guys make some good gains, but they are average lifters. My training partner is an above average lifter - a world record holder. There’s nothing wrong w/ the advice I’ve given. The principle and methods I use have been as old as dirt.
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Perhaps they are, but you are also weak enough that you will probably make gains simply by following a consistent program even if it is sub optimal.