Off Cycle for 2 Years

Hello Fam!

Have been off my regimen for 2+ years. Sitting at:

Age 40
Weight 220
Height 6’0

Sitting at a decent amount of body fat. Eating clean for about 1 week to get some fat shed.

My friend is wanting me to get back in the gym.

Still stocked with my TRT Test E / Test C / HCG and Anastrozole. I’m thinking about diving back into running it all.

I’m taking my labs tomorrow the following:

CBC
CMP
Lipids
PSA
Testosterone - Total and Free
Thyroid Panel with TSH
Estradiol
IGF-1

I know the labs are important. My colleague whom is a monster literally is running a crazy cycle here.

But I have access to whatever I may need such as Deca/DBol/ Tren A or E/ Masteron etc.

Looking to drop down hard on BF and sticking to a good clean eating regimen as stated about. Would it make sense to stack anything extra with my Test E / C?

I’m open to it can stick to a clean eating refining but figured while I have some mass on me allow my body to shed it with a little help from the AAS.

I don’t tend to have any sides but wanted some anecdotal input if I may. My previous user account I can not access so started the new profile. It’s been a while. Probably 13 years :).

Thoughts are considered and appreciated. Protocols are important.

Regards

TheDJ

I mean, TRT doses may be warranted but I’d be real hesitant about going on high doses with higher BF%.

Maybe give it a month or so eating healthy, that way you can develop and maintain some good eating habits before hitting the turbo boost?

@Andrewgen_Receptors it is starting to adjust and I agree with you. I can wait out a month should it make sense. When I go clean I do stay on point with it.

Is there any thought to the other compounds to stack with it to help shed a little once I am there?

I have used Tren , Winstrol and Deca previously with no side effects.

Just feel a little new again without any sold point to jump off of now.

Masteron I have reviewed but not used as of yet.

Everything is at my disposal. As you can imagine everything that is a prescription (Test, Deca) is had by the others are the usual suspects.

Since you’re asking my opinion, I don’t think taking other compounds for the sake of leaning out makese a lot of sense when it can be done at a lower risk. Even adding stuff like Var and Clen only increase weight loss by like 10%… not worth it IMO.

I tend to lean towards the least compounds to produce the effect you want, and at the lowest dose that works - but I don’t do “steroids”, only TRT so :man_shrugging:

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I understand what your asking but some compounds pharmaceutical wise are used for it. Sometimes that is.

Now Tren and Mast yes not the norm but Deca and Test are.

Are you consistent in the gym? Have your weights (strength) plateaued?

If no on either of those questions, I would stay off and eat clean until both questions are answered yes.

I liked two anabolics (one oral and one injectable) along with 200mg/wk testosterone where the total AAS/wk was between 350 and 700mg/wk. I would also start on the lower side of AAS/wk, eventually getting to 600mg/wk a couple years down the road.

(I am assuming that you know how to train effectively to put on muscle mass.)

Considering muscle memory seems to be a valid theory, and using AAS seems to amplify muscle memory effects, I’d say just cut and lose fat and muscle get as lean as you want, then use just a bit of AAS with a caloric surplus, and in a few weeks you will be leaner and bigger than if you used the same amount of drugs to cut. Plus on TRT, the ratio of fat to muscle lost on a cut is more favorable anyways.

If one is looking to step on stage, that goes out the window. But for most of us here, cutting on TRT, then using a light, short duration blast after the cut I think is better.

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I think the issue with this is blasting during a cut makes it seem as if cutting can only be done while on blast, which frankly isn’t true.

OP is already on TRT so no issues as for cutting here; stay the course and lose weight. Blasting afterwards is more justified IMO.

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For me, unless I want to blast a gram of Tren, I am likely not gaining muscle on a cut. I might maintain very close to all the muscle over a 12 week slow cut with AAS. Or I can do a faster cut on TRT, lose some muscle, then run like 4 weeks of Tbol with my TRT and have the muscle I had at the start of the cut, but without the fat.

Yeah, I’ll look a bit worse during the cut. I am okay with that considering it is healthier.

Hey Man,

In my experience, whether cutting or bulking, Diet is obviously the most important thing. Here’s what I use for my cut: HGH (2-4 iu’s daily), Test Cyp (400-500 mg a week), Anavar (50 mg a day), Clen (20 mg 20 minutes before working out), and then adex every time I inject. It’s pretty simple, Tren, deca, etc. are all great but my cuts usually last 4-6 months and I would only use tren, deca, mast, etc. for eight weeks at a time.

Yes the tough one to get has been clen. Rest has been easy lol especially when a buddy is a doc.