Severely Overtrained

Im just heading home from hot yoga and was about to bite into a peach…guess not! I am taking all of your recommendations very seriously and feel I have gotten more helpful advice in a couple days than a year w many specialists. You all are amazing!!!
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Yes I agree with GSD that is a ton of vitamins, and in my opinion not only unnecessary, but a waste of money and maybe even harmful. The thing with vitamins is that the idea is not to create some dramatic scientifically measurable effect in the body. They are not drugs, and are not suppose to work like drugs. They bring balance to the body. So while I think the RDA is low on many if not most, mega dosing to get some sort of measurable impact for some vitamins is not necessary. Just my opinion.

The Multi and Chorella are going to give you plenty of nutrients. I would add in fish oil and another 1-3 sources of fatty acids from flax and borage or olive oil etc. Bump up the ground flax too 1-2 tbs, even with the addition of oil. Bump up the Glutamine to ten grams on heavy training days, 5 before and 5 after. You can add in Kelp jerky or some other form of kelp. Or just take a thyroid blend, with Tryrosine, iodine. This can supplement that iodine without adding in extra sodium. Sea Salt is lower is sodium, but iodine as well.

ElIMINATE the veggie greens. Eliminate Broccoli, Sprouts, Kale, brussel sprouts, soy, cauliflower and even peaches and pears. These foods actually suppress thyroid function. So stay away from these foods (not my opinion,James F. Balch’s recommendation) and get rid of all the separate mineral and vitamins, with exception of the vitamin D.

Multi
Thyroid blend with iodine from potassium iodide or Kelp, Tyrosine and glandular thyroid
Chorella (this gives you those extra vitamins and minerals for thyroid support)
Oils (Flax, fish, borage, and some other form coconut/olive or whatever)
Glutamine
Protein
5htp

Throw in some massage and slow restorative yoga and give your body some time. Just my 2 cents…Good luck. Hope you heal well.

@GSD Yes the glutamine debacle is interesting. I just read an article on T-Nation about Glutamine being useful with anabolism and priming the cell, if I remember that correctly, for protein synthesis. I know it is useful for digestive tract health, and it balances the nuerotransmitters, GABA/Glutamate. It does seem to be deficient in people who are over trained, so whether or not it adds 10 lbs to your bench might be up for debate, but it definitely seems to play a role in many other functions. Stuff you probably already knew, but just wanted to throw that out there.
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Also does anyone know about gluten and hypothyroidism? I’ve heard I should go gluten free…I love ezekiel bread-it’s the one carb I hate to give up!!!

Why is it that you believe you have hypothyroidism? Your doctor said that you didn’t have it, right? Did the doctor say why they concluded that? Hypothyroidism has a lot of symptoms. Do you have any besides weight gain?

Be careful not to make too many changes at once or you won’t know what works and what doesn’t.

He ran tests ffor about 4months and it went from low thyroid apparently to hypo. No other symptoms though. But now I’m on desiccated thyroid so I hope he was right and didn’t Screw me up because he was too lazy to keep looking.

[quote]GSD wrote:
Why is it that you believe you have hypothyroidism? Your doctor said that you didn’t have it, right? Did the doctor say why they concluded that? Hypothyroidism has a lot of symptoms. Do you have any besides weight gain?

Be careful not to make too many changes at once or you won’t know what works and what doesn’t.[/quote]

[quote]GSD wrote:
Why is it that you believe you have hypothyroidism? Your doctor said that you didn’t have it, right? Did the doctor say why they concluded that? Hypothyroidism has a lot of symptoms. Do you have any besides weight gain?

Be careful not to make too many changes at once or you won’t know what works and what doesn’t.[/quote]

this is a great point. A good rule of thumb is to add in one thing at a time in 2 week intervals. Add in the oils. wait 2 weeks. take out the extra vitamins, wait two weeks etc.

this is not medical advice, or to replaced with. This is people giving you their opinion. Keep working with professionals…and Keep up with the blood tests especially with the thyroid. You will generally be tested every 3 -6 months, until you are showing optimal levels. we don’ t everything athat is going on. These are suggestion on what has worked for people we have helped or ourselves .

Though I do get your frustration with “experts” I went through the ringer recenetly and the advice given to me was " bulk up with heavy weights", despite being 15 lbs over normal weight levels with under 10% bf. ( this was advice for arthritis by a doctor who hadn’t seen a gym in 20 years by the way) Another doctor handed me a bottle of pain pills, and a handout on why I need to stretch! This was what a combined 25 years of medical training was able to provide me! I cant imagine what the lay person does, and the aagaony and confusion they go through. Without the education and knowledge on this this stuff I don’ t know where I would be right now. I have to say the daignostics are light years ahead of everyone else, but actual treatment needs some improvment. All i needed to know was what was wrong, I can do the rest thanks.

I do realize these are opinions, I just feel that now only weighing 130 my docs dont 100% care when I say I am very worried and unhappy about my body composition change. I get I am now average weight but that is not me or my frame. I also think 25lbs in a month is scary fast weight gain and should be taken seriously. So as much as I take what my docs say and try to follow their recommendations…I also believe they dont know everything. I had a progesterone level of 2 and it was suppose to be 80, my first doc thought to help that (and my lack of period) he would put me on the pill. Well I later found out that that made my low progesterone far worse. Here I trusted him and he screwed me up more. Also I feel they are very uniformed about sports medicine and nutrition.
I will take things slow though…trying to speed this recovery up hasnt done me any good as of yet

this is a great point. A good rule of thumb is to add in one thing at a time in 2 week intervals. Add in the oils. wait 2 weeks. take out the extra vitamins, wait two weeks etc.

this is not medical advice, or to replaced with. This is people giving you their opinion. Keep working with professionals…and Keep up with the blood tests especially with the thyroid. You will generally be tested every 3 -6 months, until you are showing optimal levels. we don’ t everything athat is going on. These are suggestion on what has worked for people we have helped or ourselves .

Though I do get your frustration with “experts” I went through the ringer recenetly and the advice given to me was " bulk up with heavy weights", despite being 15 lbs over normal weight levels with under 10% bf. ( this was advice for arthritis by a doctor who hadn’t seen a gym in 20 years by the way) Another doctor handed me a bottle of pain pills, and a handout on why I need to stretch! This was what a combined 25 years of medical training was able to provide me! I cant imagine what the lay person does, and the aagaony and confusion they go through. Without the education and knowledge on this this stuff I don’ t know where I would be right now. I have to say the daignostics are light years ahead of everyone else, but actual treatment needs some improvment. All i needed to know was what was wrong, I can do the rest thanks.
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