Hey guys n gals, I was wondering if I could have some help in deciphering my results. To clarify I am a 23 year old male who has been training for a fair few years now, I am 107kg at 6ft3, holding on to some chub but definitely not obese, I do not take hormones as of yet… and my goal is to become a bodybuilder one day.
All my other vitamin values came back good, I sleep well, eat clean… I do everything in my power to naturally have higher test but looking at my score it’s bad right?
In terms of a first cycle I am considering 300mg of test pinned twice a week for 10-12 weeks… is there even any point coming off if my test is low though? Should just blast and cruise?
Do you have symptoms of low test? If you don’t have symptoms than fuck the numbers. 14.9nmol is on the lower side, however many individuals will feel fine with this level. If you don’t have symptoms of low T than 14.9nmol may be all your body needs to maintain optimal function/homeostasis. Think of other factors in your life, how is your overall stress level, sleep pattern etc.
If you don’t have symptoms currently then you should come off. Permenantly screwing up your endocrine system for a single semi low set of numbers is a really bad idea. I’m not telling you to go on either, you need to be well aware of the potential risks using gear has. 300mg twice per week, are you talking about 300mg/wk (150mg 2x/wk) or 600mg/week (300mg2x/wk
I do feel fatigued even though I get adique hours of sleep at the right times, when I wake up I feel groggy for hours. I am generally a depressed person, nothing severe but pretty down always have been since I can remember. My memory is shocking at times too, simple things slip my mind and concentration when not in the Gym? To quote my school reports from years ago, “always distracted”. Strength is not where it should be considering I train for it… (not exclusively mind you!)
110kg Squat
180kg Deadlift
80kg Bench
Sex drive and hair loss is not a concern.
I didn’t think of that… interesting way of putting it too. Although I do belive that I am not functioning as well as I could.
150mg 2x/wk is what I am thinking of starting with, see how I go and handle it. Always open to opinions btw.
Do you mind sharing your training routine. I can bench the weight you listed as your 1RM which leads me to believe you probably don’t have an optimal training routine (I have chronic pain, really limits me from getting stronger)… Although this could be because your tall and I’m… EXTREMELY TALL, like a professional basketball player (hah im 166 cm, taller than EVERYONE else dammit) if you don’t adknowledge my tall stature my feelings will be hurt and insecurities will flow out of me like floodwaters breaching a dam (I’m joking)
I don’t feel comfortable giving cycle advice however 300mg is an awesome starting point!!! Props for choosing a lower dose if you decide to go ahead with this. You need to be aware of potential long term risks of gear such as cardiac remodelling, prolonged-permenant shut down, increased risk of stroke via higher RBC/HEMATOCRIT and a few others, I’ll write up a detailed explanation later.
Sure thing, this is my current program I do full body workouts 3 x per week.
Low Bar Squat: 8 sets pyramiding up to 100kg x 3
High Bar Squat: 3 sets 60kg x 10
Dumbbell Incline Bench Press: 8 sets 12kg x 12 (weight of dumbbells is per dumbbell not both weights together)
Dumbbell Rows: 6 sets pyramiding up to 40kg x 5
Seated Dumbbell Tricep Extensions: pyramiding up to 34kg x 10
EZ Curl Bar Bicep Curls: 5 sets 30kg x 10 superset with light side raises pyramiding up to 16kg x 6
Calve Raises: 5 sets pyramiding up to 200kg x 5.
Whatever finishing stuff I feel like.
I’ll end up changing this up in a couple of weeks, just really enjoying my squats atm, I have come back to the Gym a year ago after a 6 month layoff, so I don’t feel like my numbers are the worst but muscle memory is a beautiful thing.
I don’t push my bench lately (dumbbell or barbell) as my chest is very weak and I have a hard time activating it, so I drop the weight in order to feel it properly (I can DB Bench 32kg) and my left wrist is a bit buggered. Chest has always been a struggle, I am limb dominant which doesn’t help.
Edit: I should also clarify that I am on a cut taking in 2,400cals per day, my 1RM of 110kg Low Bar Squat was done during it, I usually go high reps.
How tall exactly? And don’t worry bro, this is a safe space
Thank you, I am well aware of the risks it’s been something I have been debating with myself for 5 years now, but a fresh pair of eyes never hurt!
Tbh I don’t think the amount one lifts (when working for hypertrophy) is all that important. That being said it is important to have a decent strength base before using AAS, if a weak individual starts using the rapid increase in strength may lead to a greatly increased risk of injury. Typically when people ask for your lifting stats they’re talking about 1rm, a 110kg squat isn’t good (no offence, especially considering your weight. I have no idea how much I can squat, knee pain prevents me from doing them. I wouldn’t recommend hopping on gear yet, I’d give it another 6-12 months, however you do whatever you want to do, I’m not your dad.
No offence taken! Except when you assumed I didn’t know what you meant when you asked for lifting stats?I have been training for a fair few years, I understand the concept of asking someone how much they lift and even gave you the numbers! Ah well.
Yeah it isn’t the best but your weight vs the weight of the bar isn’t everything especially when you consider height, for being tall it isn’t so bad as you then consider mechanical advantages, and not just tall my limbs are much longer than my torso. For example when I deadlift and I rarely do, (once every 3 months or so) 180kg comes easy for me where as other lifts like bench and squats take more effort.
Shit, I was hoping to find my father on these forums… heh, cheers for the advice though bro!
My maintenance calories come out at just bellow 2,800, I am trying to cut so maybe 2,400 is a little bit low probably bump it up to 2,500 - 2,600 but I still need to be in a deficit to see results… I assume!
Did you use an online calculator to find your maintenance cals? These can be a good place to start but if you were my client, with your height and weight, as well as training experience, I would assume your maintenance be more like 3200-3400. Now I dont know you, or know what kind of metabolism you have, but I do think you need to up your calories with both fats and carbs. But definitely up those fats, which as mentioned above, will help with hormone production.
Indeed I did, how do they get it so wrong? What would be a better method of calculating calories? I am a mostly sedentary individual who goes to the Gym 3 times per week, when I’m not training I’m mostly seated.
I got my cal intake wrong as I guessed it on the fly but it is 2,550 my macronutrient breakdown is currently.
