[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]forbes wrote:
[quote]Ah, in that case:
What happened the day Jesus died, and in what exact order?
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http://focusonjerusalem.com/thedayJesusdied.html
http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matthew-mark/when-did-john-find-out-jesus-was-messiah
http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matthew-mark/why-are-there-different-genealogies-jesus-matthew-1-and-luke-3
You’re probably referring to the “contradictory” statements of Mark 14:12 and John 19:14. In that case the Jewish day starts at 6pm of what we would call the day before. In other words the Sabbath begins Friday night at 6pm and ends Saturday night at 6pm. So Jesus and His disciples could and would have more than likely have had the last supper the same day of Jesus crucifixion. He had the supper in the evening, and than was crucified the next morning as long as the supper was 6pm or later and His death was before 6pm of what we would call the following day, according to the Jewish Calendar/Law it is the same day.
[quoteHow did Judas die? Did he die at all?[/quote]
You are probably referring to Matthew 27:3-8 and Acts 1:16-19, where Matthew says he hangs himself and Acts says that he falls headlong and all his bowels gushed out. There is no contradiction here at all because both are true. A contradiction occurs when one statement excludes the possibility of another. In fact, what happened here is that Judas went and hung himself and then his body later fell down and split open. In other words, the rope or branch of the tree probably broke due to the weight and his body fell down and his bowels spilled out.
Also, notice that Matt. 27:3-8 tells us specifically how Judas died, by hanging. Acts 1:16-19 merely tells us that he fell headlong and his bowels gushed out. Acts does not tell us that this is the means of his death where Matthew does.
And yes I did direct you to some websites instead of addressing them myself because I myself didn’t know the answer. None the less it doesn’t matter as the contradictions were addressed. Thought I’d point that out before someone says “well all you did was spew off crap from websites”
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I’m shocked.[/quote]
Nonono.
-Was Jesus first brought to the High Priest or to Annas, his father in law.
When did the scribes and the priests meet, the day before, that day, the day after or not at all?
Who did plave the robe on Jesus shoulder and when? Herod or the Roman soldiers?
Did other people rise from the dead when Jesus died?
-I thibk your second link indicates that John was less interested in hoistorical accuracy but in presenting Jesus as the son of God. Yeah well, if it is fiction we are talking about here, fine, but that pretty much makes the innerant claim obsolete.
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You are saying that the writers of the bible did not know about the Sabbath? It also does not matter because it was either on the day of the Pessach fest or one day before, no matter how you count your days.
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It is not even clear whether Judas dies at all, because Jesus presented himself to all twelve apostles when he came back.
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Funny, neither Matthew nor Luke mention Mary, they both give a clear account of Josefs lineage though. In some points they match, in others they dont. I would also point you to the fact that Marys parents were Joachim and Anna, so if they actually desacribed Marys lineage, which they clearly did not, I assume that they would at least have gotten her father right.
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Just so everyone is clear the only inerrant “Bible” is the original Hebrew and Greek that was inspired by the Holy Ghost. Copies don’t count as they are not inspired, they are just copies.