[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I understand the Cop , but that was 0 to 60 faster than I have ever seen[/quote]
Bingo. The cop’s response wasn’t calculated, it was reflexive. The punch came in way too early in my opinion unless the women were going for his gun.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Also keep your little butthole shaved and clean, just in case an agent of the state feels like fucking you.
Are you sure that you are an American?
Just checking.
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Fight the power![/quote]
Shit on it, subvert it, make fun of it, ignore it, whatever comes in handy.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
I laughed. Won’t lie.
Cop asks you to do something like stop and talk or come down to the station, you don’t give him lip, you don’t get physical, you fucking go to the station. Seriously, bitch got served. I hope they both do time to be honest, because that kind of attitude towards law enforcement is just uncalled for. But they won’t because she’s a woman and she get’s a free pass for that.
If that were a guy getting smacked in the face for acting that way, would this be in question?[/quote]
THIS^^^ This should be the attitude of everyone in here and everyone in society. If you break the law (which j walking is) then just accept the consequences. Shut your mouth, take your ticket and go on with your day.
.greg.[/quote]
Also keep your little butthole shaved and clean, just in case an agent of the state feels like fucking you.
Are you sure that you are an American?
Just checking.
[/quote]
Seriously, I’m respectful, its what I recommend, but to think it should be a requirement or you deserve something is retarded.[/quote]
Either this post is missing words, or my English is worse than I feared.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
I laughed. Won’t lie.
Cop asks you to do something like stop and talk or come down to the station, you don’t give him lip, you don’t get physical, you fucking go to the station. Seriously, bitch got served. I hope they both do time to be honest, because that kind of attitude towards law enforcement is just uncalled for. But they won’t because she’s a woman and she get’s a free pass for that.
If that were a guy getting smacked in the face for acting that way, would this be in question?[/quote]
THIS^^^ This should be the attitude of everyone in here and everyone in society. If you break the law (which j walking is) then just accept the consequences. Shut your mouth, take your ticket and go on with your day.
.greg.[/quote]
Also keep your little butthole shaved and clean, just in case an agent of the state feels like fucking you.
Are you sure that you are an American?
Just checking.
[/quote]
Seriously, I’m respectful (to cops), its what I recommend (to others), but to think it should be a requirement or you deserve to be poorly treated legally is retarded.[/quote]
Either this post is missing words, or my English is worse than I feared.
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Clarified, I hope. It made sense in my head.
Cops shouldn’t be able to treat people differently based on who they like or not. If I want to refer to a cop as barney fife(a friend of mine did this), he shouldn’t have the right to ticket me for it.
he can probably find something else to ticket you for. Im sure he didnt write the ticket for “insulting an officer” did he?
.greg.
[quote]gregron wrote:
he can probably find something else to ticket you for. Im sure he didnt write the ticket for “insulting an officer” did he?
.greg.[/quote]
He ended up getting several tickets for various things. pipes too loud (was on his harley) and several other crap tickets he wouldn’t have gotten if he’d addressed him as sir. I think they all ended up getting thrown out, but it was a hassle. Once again making disrespect de facto illegal.
see thats why I say its best to just be nice and respectful to avoid all that crap. Its like they say “dont mess with people who control your food or your pay”… I think they should add “and cops” to that cause you’re doing yourself a huge favor by being a nice guy everyone once in a while.
.greg.
Here is a little story:
In a small Austrian village there lived a family of illegal aliens.
The police had the cunning plan to catch them and deport them, but because they knew that the village liked them and did not want them to be deported they moved in at around 5.30.
The whole village awaited them and blocked the entrance to the house where this family was living so the police concluded that they really had no other choice than to let it be or try again later.
I guess to some Americans the instinctual reaction is that they should have alarmed a SWAT team, call in air support and level the whole village with artillery strikes to eliminate this nest of isurgency from a safe distance.
^^hahahaha. throw out a hypothetical scenario and then just make assumptions based on no facts. Yeah thats gonna help prove your point
.greg.
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^hahahaha. throw out a hypothetical scenario and then just make assumptions based on no facts. Yeah thats gonna help prove your point
.greg.[/quote]
Well that actually happened two villages away from the one my mother grew up in.
link to the story?
.greg.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And as I’ve explained, I logically think j-walking is safer.[/quote]
Here is the crux. J-walking for the individual at that moment, assuming they are not wearing headphones, look both ways before crossing, does not trip… may be safer that one time. But if everyone jay walked in an area with high pedestrian and car traffic, or even just high car (especially high speed) traffic, then you will have issues. The pedestrians and the drivers need to be able to rely on the others behavior. Walkers do not dart out into traffic, car stop appropriately, do not drive onto sidewalk, etc. That is for everyone’s safety. Predictability of action is what allows for traffic to flow. That said, accidents happen but rarely when everyone is doing what they are supposed to be doing - and in those cases there may be mechanical failures.
Laws are written to establish cultural norms in behavior so that there is some predictability in this. (Imagine if there were no traffic laws). Cops enforce these laws.[/quote]
So I’m wrong to more safely cross away from intersections because its bad for society?[/quote]
If none of the potential drivers involved act in a way not in accordance with the law, than you are just as safe, if not safer, to cross at the intersection. There exists in society a tension between what is expedient for the individual now (what best meets your present needs) to what is expected in conforming with society. Basically the whole individual verse community thing. Not everyone agrees on the balance.
[quote]gregron wrote:
link to the story?
.greg.[/quote]
It is late here , but I will ask her tomorrow, but that is not unusual, stuff like that happens pretty often around here.
Or at least people ignoring laws because they think they are BS happens pretty often, including cops that know when to look the other way.
A few similar links:
Ha, here it is:
My apologies, it was 4 in the morning and the mayor Norbert Mähr told them to take a hike. The state government promised to wait for the end of the legal process before taking any more actions.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And as I’ve explained, I logically think j-walking is safer.[/quote]
Here is the crux. J-walking for the individual at that moment, assuming they are not wearing headphones, look both ways before crossing, does not trip… may be safer that one time. But if everyone jay walked in an area with high pedestrian and car traffic, or even just high car (especially high speed) traffic, then you will have issues. The pedestrians and the drivers need to be able to rely on the others behavior. Walkers do not dart out into traffic, car stop appropriately, do not drive onto sidewalk, etc. That is for everyone’s safety. Predictability of action is what allows for traffic to flow. That said, accidents happen but rarely when everyone is doing what they are supposed to be doing - and in those cases there may be mechanical failures.
Laws are written to establish cultural norms in behavior so that there is some predictability in this. (Imagine if there were no traffic laws). Cops enforce these laws.[/quote]
So I’m wrong to more safely cross away from intersections because its bad for society?[/quote]
If none of the potential drivers involved act in a way not in accordance with the law, than you are just as safe, if not safer, to cross at the intersection. If something goes wrong and you cross in the street, your fault. Cross at the intersection, their fault. You could look at it as, who would I rather pay the medical bills?
There exists in society a tension between what is expedient for the individual now (what best meets your present needs) to what is expected in conforming with society. Basically the whole individual verse community thing. Not everyone agrees on the best balance nor are the outcomes always clear.[/quote]
And that dependence on others got you hit by a car.
Answer the question, am I wrong to cross away from intersections?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And as I’ve explained, I logically think j-walking is safer.[/quote]
Here is the crux. J-walking for the individual at that moment, assuming they are not wearing headphones, look both ways before crossing, does not trip… may be safer that one time. But if everyone jay walked in an area with high pedestrian and car traffic, or even just high car (especially high speed) traffic, then you will have issues. The pedestrians and the drivers need to be able to rely on the others behavior. Walkers do not dart out into traffic, car stop appropriately, do not drive onto sidewalk, etc. That is for everyone’s safety. Predictability of action is what allows for traffic to flow. That said, accidents happen but rarely when everyone is doing what they are supposed to be doing - and in those cases there may be mechanical failures.
Laws are written to establish cultural norms in behavior so that there is some predictability in this. (Imagine if there were no traffic laws). Cops enforce these laws.[/quote]
So I’m wrong to more safely cross away from intersections because its bad for society?[/quote]
If none of the potential drivers involved act in a way not in accordance with the law, than you are just as safe, if not safer, to cross at the intersection. If something goes wrong and you cross in the street, your fault. Cross at the intersection, their fault. You could look at it as, who would I rather pay the medical bills?
There exists in society a tension between what is expedient for the individual now (what best meets your present needs) to what is expected in conforming with society. Basically the whole individual verse community thing. Not everyone agrees on the best balance nor are the outcomes always clear.[/quote]
And that dependence on others got you hit by a car.
Answer the question, am I wrong to cross away from intersections?[/quote]
You just donte get it, do you?
It is not that laws must serve a purpose, you must serve the law.
If you dont those impure tendencies must be purged from your soul and if that is not possible you must be purged from society.
Obedience is freedom.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Answer the question, am I wrong to cross away from intersections?[/quote]
dont you mean crosswalks not intersections? not all intersections have crosswalks
.greg.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Answer the question, am I wrong to cross away from intersections?[/quote]
not intersections but cross walks… not all intersections have crosswalks
.greg.[/quote]
I specifically cross in the middle of blocks in cities where there are crosswalks at intersections. I’ve almost been hit by people turning right onto the street I’m crossing too many times.
So is your question:
Is it wrong to not cross in a crosswalk? (which is what I believe you were saying?
or
Is it safer to not cross in a crosswalk?
.greg.
I LOL’d at ur link orion. haha
I thought it would be in espanol.
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
I LOL’d at ur link orion. haha
I thought it would be in espanol.[/quote]
It happened in Austria, so ze link was in German!
Howeva: