Hey guys hope all is well.
I finally decided to give trt an honest go, there was too much feeling like crap and my mood has been out of this world bad, not to mention the libido.
I had some test cream i picked up from a clinic 6+ months ago and after thought id hold off on trt but last friday i was pretty much raging out with how bad i felt so i said screw it and started that night.
Havent been on it long obviously but was wondering if you have to be clean shaven for the application to the scrotum, i mean i did do it but seems like it would be a pain in the ass to be on a consistent bases lol.
So far ive been noticing a big kick in energy and a little bit of libido, but what makes me confused is how fricken calm i am now, ive never felt this before. I dont think it would be in my head would it? Well i mean yeah… but you know lol (placebo)
My bad mood seems to have liften and am not irritable anymore either. If it is from trt thats excellent. My mood has been really horribly effecting my day to day always stressed unable to think clearly. Now it feels like i can complete tasks and what ever else the day throws with ease. I didnt think it would have this kind of effect on me so it is a pleasant surprise.
Pre trt my baseline levels 9 months ago was 510 TT and 8 FT.
3 months before that 365 TT and 7.8 FT i believe.
The last 3 months was the worst for me regarding energy libido and mood so it could have been even lower, wished i would have done blood work first but oh well.
Currently taking 100mg/gm a day, 50mg twice daily. Any tips advice going forward if any would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
Testosterone has a calming effect, increases dopamine, a neurotransmitter responsible for pleasure, then estrogen for wellbeing, DHT for libido and sexual health.
I have even heard men with ADHD benefits from the calming effect and some even cured from the inattention problems.
Be sure to check your levels 2 hours after application in about 6 weeks.
Normally you start out applying to the inner thigh, at least this is what Empower recommends, then if absorption is poor, then scrotum application is recommended.
If this is working so great, don’t change anything.
It would be interesting to see what your DHT levels are on the scrotum application. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in the thousands (3000-5000) which is well above normal.
Extremely high DHT levels has never proven dangerous, only severe acne and hair loss as the most notable side effects.
I sooooo wanna try the cream. Just not sure how i go about telling my dr. that there’s this telemed clinic that will prescribe it. I think he’d roll his eyes.
All i hear about is how well it does for libido. Anyone wanna send me a little to try!!!
Thanks for the info man! I would never have known about the calming effect. I am very happy about that as i feel so much better as a result, at least mentally. I also have adhd and had stopped taking adderall quite a while back so hopefully it helps in that regard as well.
I was going to ask about that, so after applying cream you have to wait at least 2 hours before blood work, would 4 to 6 be fine?
Im guessing since it increases dopamine is why im feeling better, is the increase going to affect me negatively in the future ? I know adderall affects dopamine and i felt like crap months after taking it.
No, you must test at 2 hours or you won’t get a true measure of what your levels are.
Studies find low dopamine may mean increased risk of Alzheimer’s disease. Drugs for Alzheimer’s disease that act on dopamine transmission has shown improved cognition in patients with mild to moderate Alzheimer’s disease.
I tinkered with ropinirole, a dopamine agonist prescribed for restless leg syndrome. Dr prescribed it to me off label for libido.
Experiment failed unfortunately. I think a lot of TRT users low libido is moreso involved with too much serotonin (due to increase E2) than it is low dopamine.
Ok well thats not terrible i guess thats a large enough window where i can get the blood work done in the morning.
Does test cream affect hematocrit the same as injections or worse?
Honestly dont care about hair loss, i dont have any anyways.
But the acne would be horrible, i pray i never get bad acne from it.
I could use better clarity as i feel like im on the verge of dementia lol. My memory has been terrible for years as well and unable to think properly it was really stressing me out.
Whats your thoughts on clomid? There are a few people trying to convince me to stop trt and go on that, specifically enclomiphine. Im feeling pretty good so far so im not sure thats the route i want to take. Thoughts?
I personally have never understood the allure of using clomid monotherapy (aside from the obvious fertility implications), unless you’re just avoiding pinning or being a “steroid user”. It can boost your natural test levels, but it’s still gotta be processed by the liver and long term use, IIRC, can lead to vision issues.
Yeah thats what ive been reading but im not sure if that pertains to enclomophine since it doesnt have the estrogenic isomer. Although i have no idea about it because i havent done much research about it. So far it turns me off and i dont want to go near it, and if you have to take that for life to keep your levels up whats the difference between that and trt.
I know i know you dont shut your own production down but if you have to supplement a harsh drug like that anyways (for life) to keep from having low test symptoms than its the same in my eyes.
Also if the pathology causing secondary hypogonadism isn’t remedied, clomid isn’t necessarily a long term solution as it will only boost T for as long as the man keeps taking it.
We don’t have apt safety data regarding long term use of clomid.
I have a question about blood platelets, before starting trt my platelets were 291 ref range 140-400 10*9/L. Would trt increase that ? My hematocrit is .46 as well.
Im assuming you do injections, have you had any experience with the trans scrotal cream, what are your thoughts of it increasing DHT significantly and long term high DHT?
