[quote]stefan128 wrote:
I read he used a .223 caliber-rifle. I am assuming that is semi-automatic? And what types of guns are .223 caliber? [/quote]
I believe he used two handguns, so this is bad information.
.223 is what is used in hunting weapons and also in the AR-15, M-16, etc. Doubt any handgun can shoot that, but it’s possible.[/quote]
The contender has a .223 barrel but that is probably it. My buddy has a 45/70 contender. Would not even want to shoot that, my 44 mag barrel contender will bloody your knuckles.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
And there are plenty of men who don’t fare so well. I graduated university in 2009 and I can recall many guys who would spend weekends nights at home, playing video games and eating pizza with little to no social interaction.
If you honestly believe there aren’t hordes of awkward anti-social men being pumped out by society, you’re completely oblivious to your surroundings.[/quote]
I noticed you used the words “hordes of awkward anti-social men” and not “hordes of child killing psychopaths”.[/quote]
Lol - and SOME of these men turn into psychopaths.
Go read about columbine, or the batman shooter… You’ll notice a pattern
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Any info on the shooter? A student? Teacher? Teacher’s aide/volunteer?[/quote]
I’d bet my fucking ass it’s a middle-aged white guy with extreme right-wing political views.[/quote]
sympathizes with Islam (e.g., Tim McVeigh)[/quote]
While I agree the middle age white guy thing was stupid, what do McVeigh and Islam have in common? He was a Michigan Militia guy and they are about as far from being Islamic as you can get. They also make up a large segment of those “wackos” you mentioned.
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McVey’s last stated reason for the attack was sympathy for Iraq and his view that the USA was a bully in the middle east against Islam.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
And there are plenty of men who don’t fare so well. I graduated university in 2009 and I can recall many guys who would spend weekends nights at home, playing video games and eating pizza with little to no social interaction.
If you honestly believe there aren’t hordes of awkward anti-social men being pumped out by society, you’re completely oblivious to your surroundings.[/quote]
I noticed you used the words “hordes of awkward anti-social men” and not “hordes of child killing psychopaths”.[/quote]
And going back to what csulli said earlier I play videogames a lot with my buddies but I also hang out with my friends and watch sporting events and so on. Just because you prefer to play videogames and stay home doesn’t make you anti-social and a lunatic.[/quote]
Apparently what I wrote was interpreted as saying: everyone who stays home and plays video games turns into an anti-social killer.
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
I read he used a .223 caliber-rifle. I am assuming that is semi-automatic? And what types of guns are .223 caliber? [/quote]
AR-25 is one. It is also a varmint rifle caliber.[/quote]
Okay, and by the looks of the AR-15 it looks similar to a M4. These are legal to obtain with just a permit or no?[/quote]
You just pay your money in most places. I have a couple Bushmaster Ar-15s in our house at Lake Tahoe that my older daughters like to shoot.[/quote]
I am all for the right to bear arms but I do not believe it should be that easy to obtain such a high power rifle.[/quote]
I would imagine the amount of violent crimes committed with hunting rifles is miniscule.
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
I read he used a .223 caliber-rifle. I am assuming that is semi-automatic? And what types of guns are .223 caliber? [/quote]
AR-25 is one. It is also a varmint rifle caliber.[/quote]
Okay, and by the looks of the AR-15 it looks similar to a M4. These are legal to obtain with just a permit or no?[/quote]
You just pay your money in most places. I have a couple Bushmaster Ar-15s in our house at Lake Tahoe that my older daughters like to shoot.[/quote]
I am all for the right to bear arms but I do not believe it should be that easy to obtain such a high power rifle.[/quote]
I would imagine the amount of violent crimes committed with hunting rifles is miniscule. [/quote]
PETA would disagree.
The shooter is now the 20 year old brother of the dude they thought. He went to his moms house and killed her then went to her classroom and shot most of the kids in that classroom. They said he had a rifle and a glock.
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
I read he used a .223 caliber-rifle. I am assuming that is semi-automatic? And what types of guns are .223 caliber? [/quote]
AR-25 is one. It is also a varmint rifle caliber.[/quote]
Okay, and by the looks of the AR-15 it looks similar to a M4. These are legal to obtain with just a permit or no?[/quote]
You just pay your money in most places. I have a couple Bushmaster Ar-15s in our house at Lake Tahoe that my older daughters like to shoot.[/quote]
I am all for the right to bear arms but I do not believe it should be that easy to obtain such a high power rifle.[/quote]
I would imagine the amount of violent crimes committed with hunting rifles is miniscule. [/quote]
PETA would disagree. [/quote]
I am not on the same side of any argument as PETA.
I am all for the right to bear arms but I do not believe it should be that easy to obtain such a high power rifle.[/quote]
A .223 is not a high power rifle. It’s barely a hunting round. It’s a slightly-larger .22 bullet.
Any number of hunting rounds are far more powerful. The .308 comes to mind first.
A 12 gauge shotgun is way more powerful.[/quote]
The power of the rifle, or more precisely the round, is not the issue but magazine capacity and auto vs semi auto are the issues.
I picked up my 9 year old daughter today and was so happy to see her safe after hearing this. Man I feel so helpless after this, my deepest sympathies go out to the families in CT. Hug your loved ones everybody you really just never know…
I also just read that the girlfriend of the shooter and another friend are both missing in NJ. Both of the shooters parents were killed and were divorced.
I am all for the right to bear arms but I do not believe it should be that easy to obtain such a high power rifle.[/quote]
A .223 is not a high power rifle. It’s barely a hunting round. It’s a slightly-larger .22 bullet.
Any number of hunting rounds are far more powerful. The .308 comes to mind first.
A 12 gauge shotgun is way more powerful.[/quote]
The power of the rifle, or more precisely the round, is not the issue but magazine capacity and auto vs semi auto are the issues. [/quote]
An Ar-15 is a semi-auto, not an “auto.”
Magazine capacity is a non-issue in reality.
Soldiers in WWII did plenty with 8 round mags in their M1 rifles.