Fresh Air and This American Life are good, but they’re entertainment.
There’s guys like Marc Maron, and a slew of other and I’m talking a fucking SLEW of other radio shows on iTunes that are getting their content into public ears without gov’t funding.
They need to change their model or die. Thing is, changing their model is completely doable.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
But the distinction you are failing to make is that Fox News does not get part of its funding that ultimately comes from the barrel of a gun. Do you savvy?[/quote]
I do savvy. But is it unconstitutional?
If zombies could talk, they would sound like Diane Rehm.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
But the distinction you are failing to make is that Fox News does not get part of its funding that ultimately comes from the barrel of a gun. Do you savvy?[/quote]
I do savvy. But is it unconstitutional?[/quote]
You take a look at this document, http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html, and tell me. It’s not that long. Read it and point out to me where the authority lies and why.
Scoot.[/quote]
I scanned it. I’ll get back to you.
On the other hand its kind of irrelevant to my argument. I’m arguing for its utility, and its merit.
Hopefully if it were to be de-funded, all those free-riders would get off their asses and donate and bail out the ship.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
If zombies could talk, they would sound like Diane Rehm.[/quote]
Shes one of my least favorites.
Shes like your senile cantankerous old grandma.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
If zombies could talk, they would sound like Diane Rehm.[/quote]
Shes one of my least favorites.
Shes like your senile cantankerous old grandma.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess she has been on the radio for a long time, but I sure as hell can’t see her appeal.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Question for WhiningIrish and the rest of you “NPR Rocks” boyzzz…if NPR happened to carry the Rush Limbaugh show would ye, would ye, get your frilly, lacy, crotchless panties all wadded up in ye big, fat, floppy vaginas if NPR were about to be de-funded by Uncle-I-Will-Help-Everybody-with-Other-People’s-Money-Sam?
Would ye?[/quote]
I see where this is going. No, find me a credible conservative for your thought experiment. Say George Will or something. He can have a show.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Why are you still here posting when you haven’t finished your homework, Scooter?
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Im up worrying that you’re going to start with the relative nature of left and right. Whose to say who is too far left and too far right? Certainly not the U.S. government (within reason)
But journalistic ethics are less relativistic it seems to me.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Im up worrying that you’re going to start with the relative nature of left and right…
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No, the point is that the supporters of public funding of NPR are obsessed with the “relative nature of left vs. right.” The Constitution is not.
Precisely why you shouldn’t holler for the exclusion of Limbaugh on NPR.
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Rush limbaugh can’t be on NPR because he is not a journalist. Whether or not NPR is unconstitutional. No matter what side hes on.
Well I guess he could have an opinion show, but there’s no one on NPR who just sermonizes like Rush. There really aren’t too many opinion shows at all. Maybe one that I can think of. But he’d have to interview people, and not talk over them, and generally restrain his true nature. Don’t think he could hack it.
At any rate, they’re not taking away the funding supplied by the tax break for donations - that’s worth a heckuva lot more than the direct spending.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Rush limbaugh can’t be on NPR because he is not a journalist.
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Bud, NPR is not 100% journalism as it is.
Tip: don’t fight me on this. Your position is indefensible. Retreat. Then regroup. Live to fight another day.
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Whether or not NPR is unconstitutional. No matter what side hes on.
Well I guess he could have an opinion show, but there’s no one on NPR who just sermonizes like Rush. There really aren’t too many opinion shows at all. Maybe one that I can think of. But he’d have to interview people, and not talk over them, and generally restrain his true nature. Don’t think he could hack it.[/quote]
So you’re on the side of “Suppress opinions that differ from mine if at all possible.” I see.
You really do need to do that homework. Your Constitution beckons you.[/quote]
I’m on the side of journalistic integrity. Rush has none. NPR has some. Spades more than the next best. I think that sums up my argument neatly.
Let me get to the constitution when I have the time to more fully devote my attention.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Hopefully if it were to be de-funded, all those free-riders would get off their asses and donate and bail out the ship.[/quote]
^I don’t think this is such an untenable position.