[quote]pushharder wrote:
A prudent man would already know his Constitution before he started tossing the term “constitutionality” around in a debate in which he wished to prevail.
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When did I ever claim to be prudent?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
There. I just wiped out two more of your divisions. You are sacrificing your forces with no hope of strategic or tactical gain. Retreat. Regroup. Fight another day. I’ve already warned you of this and you continue to blunder, Custer.
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Constitutionality was a diversionary tactic. More on journalistic integrity to follow. When I don’t really really need to sleep.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Question for WhiningIrish and the rest of you “NPR Rocks” boyzzz…if NPR happened to carry the Rush Limbaugh show would ye, would ye, get your frilly, lacy, crotchless panties all wadded up in ye big, fat, floppy vaginas if NPR were about to be de-funded by Uncle-I-Will-Help-Everybody-with-Other-People’s-Money-Sam?
Would ye?[/quote]
I see where this is going. No, find me a credible conservative for your thought experiment. Say George Will or something. He can have a show.[/quote]
How about Juan Williams? He is a liberal and he was fired because he appears on a conservatives show on another network.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
Oh yeah, like when they reported on the gigantic protests that just happened in Washington D.C. and San Fransisco on the anniversary weekend of Roe v. Wade, as well as Paris, France for a right to life march of 40,000 people.
Oh and you know they reported about the huge gatherings in places like Denver, Germany, Spain of millions (plural million) of Catholics where they come from all over the world and pile into the city to hear the Pope to talk and do Mass and meet other Catholics, bigger than Woodstock just no nudity, no drugs, no stealing, no rape.
They also report on the three protesters that can’t fit into the building because the other 3500 protesters took up all the room during a city hall protest on abortion issues. But, not the fact that it is standing room only in the hall itself.
Yes, journalistic standards.
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Yo, Irish. I signed your petition.
So did all my radical hippie friends.
White people love NPR. It assuages their Liberal White Guilt Syndrome.
…
Leave it to a show about stereotypical white people, to actually explain how real white people act…
White people love stations like NPR (which is equivalent to listening to cardboard), and they love shows like This American Life and Democracy Now. This confuses immigrants from the third world…
To explain this love for Public Radio, one only needs to summarize several previous posts on this website. Letâ??s use my friend Craig as an example. Craig has a high paying 9 to 5 so he feels guilty about all the problems in the world. To make himself feel better he likes being socially aware of things Post #18. However he spends most of his time indulging in the arts and going out for dinner so he has little time to devote to this. He found solace in The Daily Show Post#35, however he decided that life would be better if he did not have a TV post #28. Craig found an adequate replacement in Public Radio.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
Oh yeah, like when they reported on the gigantic protests that just happened in Washington D.C. and San Fransisco on the anniversary weekend of Roe v. Wade, as well as Paris, France for a right to life march of 40,000 people.
Oh and you know they reported about the huge gatherings in places like Denver, Germany, Spain of millions (plural million) of Catholics where they come from all over the world and pile into the city to hear the Pope to talk and do Mass and meet other Catholics, bigger than Woodstock just no nudity, no drugs, no stealing, no rape.
They also report on the three protesters that can’t fit into the building because the other 3500 protesters took up all the room during a city hall protest on abortion issues. But, not the fact that it is standing room only in the hall itself.
Yes, journalistic standards.[/quote]
That’s all you got? LOL
FOX could fill page after page of bullshit “reporting”.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
Oh yeah, like when they reported on the gigantic protests that just happened in Washington D.C. and San Fransisco on the anniversary weekend of Roe v. Wade, as well as Paris, France for a right to life march of 40,000 people.
Oh and you know they reported about the huge gatherings in places like Denver, Germany, Spain of millions (plural million) of Catholics where they come from all over the world and pile into the city to hear the Pope to talk and do Mass and meet other Catholics, bigger than Woodstock just no nudity, no drugs, no stealing, no rape.
They also report on the three protesters that can’t fit into the building because the other 3500 protesters took up all the room during a city hall protest on abortion issues. But, not the fact that it is standing room only in the hall itself.
Yes, journalistic standards.[/quote]
That’s all you got? LOL
FOX could fill page after page of bullshit “reporting”.
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Go ahead.
Here is some journalist standards, Said Musa. You know who he, Said Musa, is?
He’s a Christian being held in Afghanistan because of his faith. He has six children, they sentenced him to death because of what he believes. They told him they’d allow him to go free if he renounces his faith. He found it uncouth to renounce his faith just because someone threatened his life.
Isn’t NPR adamantly against the detainment of Muslims in America and their shipment to Gitmo (I’ve heard several times on NPR that it was because of prejudice to Islamic faith)? Yet, this man is being beat by guards and prisoners because of his belief, he wasn’t even suspected of doing anything besides believing. He works for the Red Cross. Yet, he is being sentenced to death…not a word by NPR. I understand NPR and the other news organizations can’t report on everything, but there is a strange silence about certain topics in the west. And, of the sounds that come out of that silence, they are many times skewed.
I was at both marches (DC and SF), and I was at the City Hall protests and only a few times saw the story in non-MSM, and if it was in MSM it was played down that there were a few (I think the lady said 400 people showed up and filmed a few older white people and missing that 95% of the march was made up of young people, majority women) people that showed up for the marches.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
Oh yeah, like when they reported on the gigantic protests that just happened in Washington D.C. and San Fransisco on the anniversary weekend of Roe v. Wade, as well as Paris, France for a right to life march of 40,000 people.
Oh and you know they reported about the huge gatherings in places like Denver, Germany, Spain of millions (plural million) of Catholics where they come from all over the world and pile into the city to hear the Pope to talk and do Mass and meet other Catholics, bigger than Woodstock just no nudity, no drugs, no stealing, no rape.
They also report on the three protesters that can’t fit into the building because the other 3500 protesters took up all the room during a city hall protest on abortion issues. But, not the fact that it is standing room only in the hall itself.
Yes, journalistic standards.[/quote]
That’s all you got? LOL
FOX could fill page after page of bullshit “reporting”.
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You think because I don’t find the journalistic standards of NPR to be all that it is cracked up to be that I think FOX is a godsend? I don’t, because they didn’t report on the marches, the protests, or the martyrs either.
Why not start a fund raising drive instead of a petition?
Most of their funding comes from donations anyway so just up your giving a bit and then everybody’s happy.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
Just heard Paul Ryan (R) speak for five minutes, criticizing the president’s budget proposal. The interviewer just tossed up questions and waited for Ryan to finish his thought before moving on. If the interviewer challenged any of Ryan’s assertions he was given a chance to rebutt the point. Oh yeah I tuned in late in my car so he had a bit more air time. Can’t be sure how much.
NPR. Of course. Pretty standard stuff. While the reporters that work there are probably mostly liberal, they have journalistic standards and practices that they adhere to.
Sure, you may argue that being publically funded makes them biased toward pro-government. However I think it is a healthy and highly beneficial check on corporate influence in for-profit media. A bargain at the cost.
If it was FOX news and a democrat speaking he would have been shouted down, interrupted, and his 45 seconds would elapse and then the next five minutes would be spent watching commercials for J.G. Wentworth, and Cash for Gold![/quote]
Oh yeah, like when they reported on the gigantic protests that just happened in Washington D.C. and San Fransisco on the anniversary weekend of Roe v. Wade, as well as Paris, France for a right to life march of 40,000 people.
Oh and you know they reported about the huge gatherings in places like Denver, Germany, Spain of millions (plural million) of Catholics where they come from all over the world and pile into the city to hear the Pope to talk and do Mass and meet other Catholics, bigger than Woodstock just no nudity, no drugs, no stealing, no rape.
They also report on the three protesters that can’t fit into the building because the other 3500 protesters took up all the room during a city hall protest on abortion issues. But, not the fact that it is standing room only in the hall itself.
Yes, journalistic standards.[/quote]
That’s all you got? LOL
FOX could fill page after page of bullshit “reporting”.
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Fox doesn’t steal my money to survive. Come on ID.
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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Yo, Irish. I signed your petition.
So did all my radical hippie friends.[/quote]
But did you and and your radical hippie friends send in some cashish?
Patchouli donations don’t pay the bills.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
But did you and and your radical hippie friends send in some cashish?
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We got money to burn.
There’s only two ways to support a public organization like NPR. You donate your time or you donate your money. You can’t support a cause without some personal sacrifice.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
But did you and and your radical hippie friends send in some cashish?
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We got money to burn.
There’s only two ways to support a public organization like NPR. You donate your time or you donate your money. You can’t support a cause without some personal sacrifice.[/quote]
Or you whine to the government to get them to point their guns at productive people and steal their money.
If there is a demand for something and you allow the free market to work (unhindered) someone will create a product/service to meet that demand.
The government should only be funding things required to defend individual rights (freedom to action). These are basically the military, courts and police. I don’t recall a “right” to listen to publicly funded radio…
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
But did you and and your radical hippie friends send in some cashish?
[/quote]
We got money to burn.
There’s only two ways to support a public organization like NPR. You donate your time or you donate your money. You can’t support a cause without some personal sacrifice.[/quote]
Awesome.
I agree that what you have written should be the way which NPR survives (if they don’t go to a commercial model like everyone else).
Necessary to reframe my argument NOT the overall argument of the thread. Think of it as a sub-topic if you would be so kind.
AGAIN: Not arguing constitutionality. It could very well be unconstitutional and have to be defunded.
Journalistic integrity as I see it on NPR/PBS.
Not editorializing.
Presenting necessary background information.
Presenting the commentary of a person familiar with the event/issue from one side.
Presenting the commentary of another credible person from the other side.
Summarizing.
Anything else is opinion, not journalism.
This is a disappearing phenomenon. News papers going under, blogs don’t, in my opinion, cut it. I think its in the public’s interest to have reporters cover local, national and international events. Almost like a public utility like water or electricity.
If NPR loses its funding, I just hope it can continue to provide what I see as top notch reporting on important issues, or that someone else steps up.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
There. I just wiped out two more of your divisions. You are sacrificing your forces with no hope of strategic or tactical gain. Retreat. Regroup. Fight another day. I’ve already warned you of this and you continue to blunder, Custer.
[/quote]
Constitutionality was a diversionary tactic. More on journalistic integrity to follow. When I don’t really really need to sleep.[/quote]
Discussing the constitutionality of subsidizing a media program (the press) can hardly be considered diversionary when the very topic of the discussion is whether or not to continue with its funding. What an asinine position to claim irrelevance.
After this do you honestly think you have any credibility when it comes to discussing journalistic integrity? You’re done. It’s over. Your Gallipoli has occurred.
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You have disappeared from PWI…why? You know we all need you over there…but we find you here in a PWI conversation in GAL. I will expect your return to PWI just before the 2012 elections I suppose!
Until your return to PWI, continue to shame people in SAMA …oh pirate of T.