sounds reasonable. i guess i really hope i’ll get jim’s input too on the other forum lol
When I got serious about training a couple years ago I got a bit confused since there is too much conflicting opinions. I did all kinds of high frequency and high volume stuff but eventually settled on an upper/lower split and I’m doing better now than before. For powerlifting there is some logic to higher frequency training but it’s not really necessary either. The worst thing is this advice that if you aren’t feeling like shit then you should probably do more volume, if you are already doing a lot of volume and you stall then more volume is the last thing you need. Paul mentioned something in that thread about Nuckols saying that again recently. It’s just bad advice and will confuse people who don’t know better.
You don’t think that if he simply limits volume then he will be fine? The only way you can’t push everything is if you do too much, if you limit the number of sets then it shouldn’t be a problem. This is also what Paul Carter is saying.
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You know what, a half decent program that you put full effort into will get you better results than something “perfect” that you aren’t into. As long as you aren’t overdoing volume or doing anything stupid you should be fine.
Also, if you’re trying to count sets then 1 rest pause set=3 hard sets. If you do that in place of FSLx5x5 then maybe take a set out from somewhere else because it will be significantly harder than that. I have done some rest pause training now and then, the things it seemed to work best for was building up my shoulders (OHP) and lats (chin ups). For whatever reason it didn’t help my bench and also didn’t seem to do anything special for my pecs and triceps, but I think my pecs and triceps are very fast twitcg dominant so that could have something to do with it.
Again, I’m responding according to the paradigm laid out in 5/3/1. If you want to use 5/3/1, that’s how it works. If you don’t, you have more freedom to maneuver.
But what is it about 5/3/1 that makes it impossible to only do hard sets rather than submax work? If he can’t recover then he should do less total work, not more easy sets.
Page 18 of Forever, first paragraph. The rest of that section discusses it as well.
I don’t have that book and I don’t plan to buy it so I have no idea what it says.
Just because Wendler says something that doesn’t mean that there is no other way to go. The basic 5/3/1 scheme is a logical way of progressing from week to week and month to month on barbell lifts, I really don’t see any reason why combining that scheme (including the standard AMRAP sets) with some bodybuilding assistance work can’t work.
I do not know how many other ways I can possibly say that I am answering in accordance with the paradigm laid out in 5/3/1. These are the rules laid out for the program. If you are wanting to follow the program, those are the confines. If you don’t, you have freedom to train however you want
There is no Paul Carter 531. There is Jim Wendler 531 or training in the way Paul Carter recommends. They have both proven to work. This makes life easier in that there are now two ways to succeed.
An analogy:
I drive a manual mazda. My missus drives an automatic Ford. They both function perfectly well as cars. If I take the transmission from my mazda and put it in her Ford, it will probably not improve it.
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He wrote me a few paragraphs once, needless to say I followed his advice and got stronger.
I think the point is that he doesn’t want to totally follow the program.
But there is a Vincent Dizenzo 5/3/1.
What’s wrong with using the base of the program (5/3/1 progression for heavy top sets) and then selecting your own assistance work? There is no use in being dogmatic about training, as long as the program makes sense it doesn’t matter if it follows whoever’s advice 100%. Unless you are paying someone to write your training there is no reason why you need to do every little thing they say.
You mean like what I wrote in this part you quoted?
If you are wanting to follow the program, those are the confines. If you don’t, you have freedom to train however you want
Sort of like that but not quite.
Oh ok.
Deload
Press
TM x 1
Deadlift
TM x 1
Chins 2 x 8
For the record, this was the first time I actually put 300 lb on the bar and deadlifted it. Yay
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Press
40 kg x 3
45.6 kg x 3
52 kg x 9
54.5 kg x 3
57 kg x 3
59.5 kg x 2
40 x 5 x 5
Chins bw x 10, +12 kg x 8, 6
Laterals 12 kg x 12,11,10 (rest pause)
Rope crunch 2 sets
Productive training session
So since my 6 week fat loss phase has officially begun, I’ll post this “day one” pic for reference.
I’ll take one with the same lighting at the end of the diet. Let’s see what I can do this time round
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What’s your height and weight? In freedom units lol
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5’ 11’’
175 lb
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Deadlift
99.4 kg x 3
113.6 kg x 3
127.8 kg x 12
132 kg x 3
137 kg x 3
142 kg x 3 (lifetime pr)
99.4 kg x 5 x 5
Db squat 2 x 15, 12
Chest Press Machine 55 kg x 12, 65 kg x 15, 70 kg x 15
Db curls 10 kg x 8, 12 kg x 8, 14 kg x 8,4,2 (rest pause)
Last joker @ 312 x 3
Once again the heaviest weight I pulled up to now.
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