Sacrifice Versus Reward

Haha, Beans, now you’re just being self indulgent.

Not surprising though considering the self indulgently overly verbose and meandering nature of the actual topic.

Could have been summed up just as well with “I’m not ‘hardcore’ any more, and want my own forum.”.

Shit storm is too flattering a moniker for this 16 pages of bullshit.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

yah I do, does that have something to do with the thread or are you still just wanting some attention on you and not on the topic?

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Good, so what do you sacrifice?[/quote]

I don’t know if it is a sacrifice but I am taking care of my parents that are unfortunately having a really tough year healthwise.

I’ve had to figure out how to just get things done. I thought my life was busy before but now it is really busy and I have had to sacrifice some personal time. But I don’t think it’s a sacrifice you just do it for family. Seems a little petty when I list it as a sacrifice so I suppose I don’t have one right now.

I wish I had the sacrifice of going to medical school and being a stripper to pay off my loans. I love those kinds of examples.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

yah I do, does that have something to do with the thread or are you still just wanting some attention on you and not on the topic?

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Good, so what do you sacrifice?[/quote]

I don’t know if it is a sacrifice but I am taking care of my parents that are unfortunately having a really tough year. I luckily am pretty much recovered from a bad car accident so I am able to do so. My dad has onset Alzheimer’s and is having seizures, and my mom had a stroke two weeks ago and it’s affected her balance and verbal skills she stutters and has “word salad” happening now, this after just getting the all clear on her recovery from cancer.

I’ve had to figure out how to just get things done. I thought my life was busy before but now it is really busy and I have had to sacrifice some personal time. But I don’t think it’s a sacrifice you just do it for family. Seems a little petty when I list it as a sacrifice so I suppose I don’t have one right now.

I wish I had the sacrifice of going to medical school and being a stripper to pay off my loans. I love those kinds of examples.

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I don’t think there are many people here or anywhere dealing with what you are.

I wish you & your family the best. No one should have to suffer like that. Neither them, nor you seeing your heros as human.

Wait…did a post get deleted?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t even really understand the whole concept of apologizing or getting upset over something someone says to you over an INTERNET forum. If you don’t like what’s written simply log off.

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That should clear it up for you…[/quote]

CB, HOW did you create that link? That is so awesome. Your point is spot on as usual but I thought your link was even cooler.

@raj : About your comment above. I don’t know how many people log off after receiving a personal attack or argument on the web. The anonymity of the internet ensures people can have an online tussle and not feel remorseful about it. If people logged off when they didn’t like what’s written all our threads would be 3 pages long or less, maximum.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
I thought this would be a good post. It has to do with nutrition AND lifting. I decided to post it in here and not the bodybuilding section because I am now an “in shape” guy, lift only three times per week with TBT or upper-lower splits, and follow a rather ordinary, softcore diet (3 square meals and 2 snacks).

I’ve spoken on return versus investment before and would like to know where others stand on the matter. Like I said, I gave up hardcore for “in shape” living because the return on investment was interfering in other areas of life, especially time in the gym and NEVER or SELDOMLY wavering from the schedule. Well, eating and preparation also interfered, but not as much.

For an example, now if I miss meals or workouts (which really doesn’t happen as much as I might portray here), I DON’T get pissed off. If I have to see my friend who I haven’t seen in months after work, I go see him. If I have a date during the week, I miss the gym. I even hit some of my macronutrient needs with less-than-stellar sources now. I might have some baked potato chips or whole wheat pretzels instead of brown rice or potatoes. I might wind up having more cheat meals than I planned to because I was out having fun with people.

I would say right now my level of commitment and sacrifice is 7 on a 10 scale. Therefore, I get a 7 in results [return on investment (ROI)]. However, I’m now experiencing greater satisfaction in other areas of life. Example: I am willing to give a 10 in investment to work, social life, a woman, and recreation, but not in the gym, track, on the road, or with my diet.

My current practices are (repeat: NOT!!!) recommended for people want EXCELLENT results in the quickest time possible! I am simply starting an adult conversation with the more friendly and reasonable topic that I’ve pondered over for the past year because in this past year I’ve done a great deal of changing and maturing. NO, working out less is NOT maturing, but it was maturing that made me change priorities in life.

(I must emphasize words such as NOT and NO because some people on here are very sensitive and/or don’t interpret writing sometimes)

I also think this is important to discuss because I’ve seen quite a few people come up with intriguing posts in which they discuss being dead broke or extremely tight with money, yet still ask us our opinions of whether to get cheaper alternatives or NOT buy supplements at all. Every time I see one of those posts that go something like this, “I have 2 bucks in the bank, just graduated school, got no job, but am wondering if Gatorade or juice is as good as Surge; I’m getting paid tomorrow, but I might blow a good amount on Alpha Male and Surge,” I can’t help but think to myself, “Buddy, when you’re broke-ass broke, you don’t think of fucking supplements - and maybe not even muscles!!”[/quote]I have not lifted a weight for weeks, maybe a few months and I don’t notice much change at all. I suppose I’m now old enoug to maintain a certain amount of muscle mass and budging it in one way or another seems like a drag. I have little motivation anymore but as far as achievement, it made me think that I would only care about lifting numbers and not so much the physique. Numbers are achievements that cannot be taken away from you. The body is an achievement as well but it’s more subjective.

Attractiveness is about having the right proportions, not being massive. Just a bit of necessary mass to have masculine proportions. Increasing size does not make the proportions any better. At worst, the bigger you get, the more people on the street start to think of you as (a);
-bouncer or related blue collar worker (nothing wrong with that if that’s the impression you want)
-insecure
-a little dull

You become, in some people’s minds, the ‘big guy’ which sort of limits your scope as a character. The average’ish guy has an air of mystery about him; he does not spend his time eating ungodly amounts of food and lifting. You can’t tell what he does by looking at him. The average’ish guy could be the protagonist of a movie, the big guy most likely an extra or a small cameo, evil or nice.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

Not shitting on them!
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LOL WUT?

Do you honestly think what you said about Wol isn’t shitting on the kid?

U dun goofed there…

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Did you read ALL of my posts in entirety.

At this point, I can only WISH - HOPE! - that you behave like this in real life, and if so, that you do it with men that SO don’t take your shit, else you might have a fist or BUCK-FIFTY headed straight to your face.

So long. I care not to communicate with you further other than in person (which can’t happen). [/quote]

Dude - take a cue from me and put this fucking idiot on IGNORE.

And for God’s sake quit quoting him so I don’t have to hear his bullshit, psuedo-tough guy drivel!!! Please!

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

At this point, I can only WISH - HOPE! - that you behave like this in real life, and if so, that you do it with men that SO don’t take your shit, else you might have a fist or BUCK-FIFTY headed straight to your face.

So long. I care not to communicate with you further other than in person (which can’t happen). [/quote]

LOL!

I’ll be in NYC in Feb. For work, you know, those fictional hot shots…

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Let me know.

I’ll give you a location and my number. I live on the same block as one of the LIRR stops. Shouldn’t be an inconvenience.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

I already know of the financial hot shots you deal with.

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Unlike your e-lift numbers, my clients and career is very real.[/quote]

Congratulations.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

Dude - take a cue from me and put this fucking idiot on IGNORE.

And for God’s sake quit quoting him so I don’t have to hear his bullshit, psuedo-tough guy drivel!!! Please! [/quote]

LOL, should I take a picture of my nuts so you can ride them at your convenience?

As to your tough guy comment… I’m not the toolbox talking about punching people and “BUCK-FIFTY” or whateverthefuck that is.

Brick, I support you all the way. They DID misinterpret what you said.

But there’s one thing you’re gonna have to explain man.

Why is your avatar pasta? Don’t you know the lectins found in it will give you lupus? Its a grain man, get with the paleo program!

I am disappoint :stuck_out_tongue:

The last 2 pages have been some of the most comical shyt I have seen all week. Now It was getting heated with the I’ll meet you here stuff (since trust me no one wants to see Brick and Beans fight)and then came Allfi with his Finland A&F wisdom and made us all Laugh…Can’t I just offer everyone Cake?

Bricknyce I don’t get everything your trying to say because based on your history of being Big your knowledge seems to fit better in Bodybuilding to BodySculpting thread since your body has been someplace most people will never go, so I’m not sure how you can relate to the day to day 7out of 10 guy.

I’m glad you guys chilled.

Please record your interaction with CountingBeans and put it on T-Nation Brick.

Wait…so is this a representation of the incredible load of bullshit awaiting us with a “General Fitness” forum?

I’m really fucking glad there isn’t one.

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
CB, HOW did you create that link? That is so awesome. Your point is spot on as usual but I thought your link was even cooler.
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CB - I just wanted to let you know you seem to be following around the people you don’t like starting more shit for no reason. We get it, you don’t like Brick or Skynett. Bill Roberts and I don’t like each other, we don’t follow each other around and start throwing shit for every post we disagree with. Just let it go, man.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait…so is this a representation of the incredible load of bullshit awaiting us with a “General Fitness” forum?

I’m really fucking glad there isn’t one.[/quote]

Nope, this is a thread in the GAL forum and seems appropriate to this forum.

I kinda think a General Fitness forum would have more fitness related threads.

This forum seems to be the one that brings out the mud slinging and flying off the handle posts so this thread is perfect for GAL

Was your sacrifice entering the Army to get your medical degree or is it wrong to suggest that would be a sacrifice?

My disappearing post is disappearing…and I’m not sure why considering it’s content.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait…so is this a representation of the incredible load of bullshit awaiting us with a “General Fitness” forum?

I’m really fucking glad there isn’t one.[/quote]

Are you fucking kidding me–thinking that I would talk about this shit in a fitness forum? If I were in a fitness forum, I’d talk about lifting, nutrition, and other physical activities.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
CB - I just wanted to let you know you seem to be following around the people you don’t like starting more shit for no reason. We get it, you don’t like Brick or Skynett. Bill Roberts and I don’t like each other, we don’t follow each other around and start throwing shit for every post we disagree with. Just let it go, man.[/quote]

This guys constantly following me around.