Dude, daily russian life ain’t bad. Yes, there is corruption and all that, but the Russians seem pretty happy with their lot and the currently enjoy more liberty than much of the west. They think we’re authoritarian, (the russian people, I mean) and they have a point. Here’s the other thing, they like Putin. They genuinely like the guy. He may be a tyrant to the rest of the world, but the russians, by in large, love the guy. He looks after their interests.
I have tried to look at this situation from both sides. I think the US is hyper ventilating. The rest of Europe seems utterly unconcerned, save for a few platitudes. They damn sure are not even close to willing to put any skin in the game.
And if I was Putin, I know all I have to do is move troops around in my own country to freak the US out. I don’t even have to strike. I saw the US in Afghanistan, just as a pratical joke I would amass troops on the border just to freak out the US, even without having any intention to invade. Why, because I am confident the US will act weakly in the moment. And they may even engage in a first strike. As Putin I know, I just have to move with in my own borders to make the US over-react.
Mind you, I don’t know what Putin’s actual intention is. I don’t know if he’s fucking with us and having a good laugh, or if he really intends on invading. Europe’s blasé attitude makes me think this is not a big deal. After all, it affects them the most.
Keep in mind Ukraine has been in and out of Russia all it’s life.
I don’t think Putin’s stupid. If he really wanted to invade, he would do it more covertly. There wouldn’t be thousands of visible troops ready to go. There would be air strikes and a mass movement of troops from a staging area no where near.
I think he’s showboating right now. If he want’s Ukraine, he’ll wait until the heat’s off. This is a good way to get people’s attention and negotiate what he wants.
What I don’t doubt, however is a US first strike based on bunk info. And then he will have no problem moving in. Which may be part of the plan.
I have no idea what a “quarantine camp” is. There’s a remote facility where returned travellers can do their 2 week quarantine, but no one is getting rounded up and put into camps because they’re unvaccinated.
The only western democratic nation I can think of that put their own citizens into concentration camps is the US, when they interned 100k people because they were of Japanese descent. I guess having a bunch of guns didn’t prevent tyranny in that case.
What’s the rest of your argument? Obviously I wouldn’t want to be put in a quarantine camp, but as they don’t exist here I have nothing to fear. The number of COVID cases in my state broke 100 for the first time this week, out of a population of 2 million. We are probably the least affected area in the developed world. No one is being dragged off to camps or getting rounded up and forcibly vaccinated in the streets. There are no squads of cops going door to door or whatever your media is telling you is happening. Everyone’s at the beach or watching the cricket.
As for obesity being a factor in COVID mortality, Australians are just as fat as Americans.
No where is as fat as Americans, that is why the US has endured more deaths than even the most under-developed nations.
I think it’s important to note that Australia is an Island, which - by design - makes transmission harder.
Regardless, this has nothing to do with the topic of this post.
The fact that you don’t think that’s fucked up in the first place, is concerning. Second, they have been shipping Aussies to those camps for being next to somebody who tested positive. How the hell do we know this and you don’t? There are videos of people shipped to quarantine camps for possible ‘exposure’ to covid. You should watch them. But I feel you are lost and have ceded your personal autonomy to the state.
I live here and I’m telling you what it’s like. Sorry if that’s inconvenient to your narrative.
I hate to tell you this, but if you’ve ever paid taxes, driven within the speed limit, surrendered your weapons when boarding an airplane, etc, then you too have ceded some of your personal autonomy. You missed out on the days of being a “just buy a gun and do whatever you want” frontiersman by only about 200 years.
In all fairness the Iron Condor lives in the communist state of Western Australia, run by Premier McNuggets. He is telling you the truth from his perspective, its just not the perspective of the rest of Australia. WA still lives in perma lockdown, as McNuggets is having too much fun being the saviour, his subjects ask to have harsher lockdowns,less freedom because they’ve been naughty boys, and girls.
The borders are closed, but no one here is under lockdown. The premier told the federal government to go get fucked and shut the borders to non-essential travel, for which he received universal praise in WA and won a landslide election. It’s funny that traditional US libertarian values (states’ rights/isolationism/putting citizens ahead of immigrants) are viewed as communist/tyranny just because it’s in an Australian context.
Enjoy your freedoms though and please don’t come here.
You might want to read your own constitution. Its federal and trumps the bullshit rules of any state commie tin pot dictator. 109. Inconsistency of laws
When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid.
So what actually happened was the Federal govt did not challenge WA. They got the state to do what they wanted without getting any shit on their hands. They did the same thing with VIC and QLD(also commie dominated states).If they wanted to challenge McNuggets, he would have to swallow his own dick.
Well I am Australian, and you should be aware that I can legally go anywhere the fuck I want to in Australia. The state laws over the last 2 years are bullshit. The only legal way to stop me from coming to WA is to prove that I had an active case of Covid, at the time of entry. It would require an individual court order personalized to me, not a blanket ban on entry.
Any foreigner with a valid visa to enter Australia also has the right of freedom of movement and could legally technically go to WA, so too bad commie.
But yeah it’s a communist hellhole here, don’t come. Sure I may be hanging out at a rock climbing gym right now and going for a nice coastal drive tomorrow to go skydiving, but in reality I’m living in a dystopia and don’t even realise it. They’ll come in black vans and take me away any minute.
A bunch of corrupt judges even if well meaning, at a time of perceived threat can make a judgement against the constitution. It doesn’t make the decision any less treasoness. It also remains to be seen the final result of challenges and appeals against that decision.
It might go on for another year or so, but Palmer may well get the last laugh(and a lot of money) against Mc Nuggets.
You might want to watch this video of a fellow West Australian, Wayne Glew. You might be surprised at actually how dystopian things are. Just because its not happening to you or someone you care about doesn’t mean that it isn’t happening, or that it might effect you in the future.
You should ask yourself, at what time would you recognise that your government has overstepped its authority? Most people will have that line crossed, and instead of trying to do something to stop it they will, redraw another line, until they have nowhere else to retreat to. Then its too late and your are living with communism.
The government in a democracy is supposed to be the manifestation of the citizens will, not an authority that rules and controls the will of subjects who have no choice. Anyone who thinks differently is just sleepwalking into communism.
Wayne Glew:
“The former police officer had his property seized in 2018 after he refused to pay $300,000 in council rates and legal costs because he believed local governments were unconstitutional.”
"In 2014 he was declared a “vexatious litigant” by the Supreme Court of WA, with his position being described as “nonsensical and incoherent”.
Now he got arrested for inciting others to try and perform a citizen’s arrest on the state premier. This nutter is really the best example you can cite?
My parents were born and raised in the USSR and we moved to Australia in the late 90’s. A guy in my parents year at university refused to stand during some official party announcement and got kicked out of his course, with fellow students being told to denounce him. This was at the end of a 5 year degree and ruined all chances of a future career, all over some trivial bullshit. And this was in the “liberal” era of the USSR - under Stalin he would’ve been imprisoned or worse. But yeah, keep telling me how having to wear a facemask and stand 1.5 metres away from others indoors is communism.
So the people who were held against their will and without due process, in these ‘bungalows’ are lying? It didn’t happen, they photoshopped and made phony movies?
It’s not inconvenient for my narrative mate. I don’t live there. If you want to live with a boot on your neck by all means, enjoy. Not me.
The same false equivalencies cultists always make. Suspending your freedom of movement for all circumstances and removing your rights as a citizen for not engaging in a forced medical procedure are way different than living in a republic with agreed upon, but minimal law and order.
Why does it have to be anarchy or authoritarianism with you lot? Liberty requires order, anarchy only works if you live by yourself outside of civilization, where without enforcement, there is no law.
If you want to live under the decrees of unelected, unrepresentative officials, go nuts. The Chinese seem more or less happy with their system too. And the astonishing pussiness demonstrated in Australia makes me sad. But hey, if you guy want it in the plurality, have it. I don’t have to go there. It’s just a shame, what a beautiful country. Really astonishing beauty.
I loved Australia when I visited. So sad to see it become china light.
Except WA had to shut itself off from the rest of the world for 2.5 years
Not only that, WA is fairly isolated. Not too many routes in and out of WA
From a geographical perspective it isnt that hard to keep covid out of WA if you accept becoming a hermit state… to which WA did
Had everywhere else had the geographical advantages WA has, the whole “two weeks to stop the spread” fiasco might have actually worked.
Its like NZ… New Zeland managed to keep covid out… but they became a hermit state
They’re a tiny, landlocked island… shocker
WA, QLD and SA managed to live with covid zero at the expensive of
residents from NSW, VIC having to suffer tremendously
INSANELY strict border control
shutting out Australians stranded overseas for the better part of two years.
Now Quantas has diverted routes to London away from WA… because WA decided they’d shut down for six months longer than the rest of Aus… despite Aus already having shut out the rest of the world for two years…
Last time I was in Aus you had to show your vaccination certificate to get into… well… everywhere…
Restaurants, gyms, theatres, certain shops, hairdressers… you name it
You didn’t HAVE to get vaccinated… but if you didn’t you couldn’t go anywhere… it was rigorously enforced
And you werent in my state to see police door checks, cars propped up on the streets with cameras monitering people, neighbors snitching on one another, road checkpoints “papers please” set up when I would go too/from work… not the DUI/trace drug testing checkpoints, but checkpoints to make sure you weren’t more than 5km (3 miles) away from home.
I’ve been told Israel is strict relative to most of the world atm… compared to Aus it’s a cakewalk. Fuck Australia… we need a shift in societal mentality that isn’t so absurdly focused on ‘safety’
If you like being mollycoddled, Aus is great. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing… each to their own.
However relative to EU, Israel, USA… Aus is a MASSIVE nanny state. I’ve met quite a few people who were downright shocked to come to Aus only find out it isn’t the larrikin, laid back paradise they’d imagined it to be… it was stricter than where they’d come from… much stricter…
That and Aus is really… really expensive to live in. People think Israel/NYC is expensive, most big cities in Aus are on par… and outside of the big cities/gold coast there isn’t much to do unless you’re into hiking, camping or the inhospitable heat out in the bush.
Since not everyone will agree on these things, inevitably some are forced to play along. I mean, most of you all come here to complain about something the government is doing against your will.
You have only read one ABC story article this man, and don’t know anything about him. I bet my mention of him was the first time you’d even heard of him, so don’t act like your an expert on him.
He is actually a constitutional expert. Unlike 99.9% of other Australians he actually knows what the constitution says and doesn’t say, and the legal implications of it. You probably haven’t even glanced at our constitution once?
He points out how technically many so called laws that most people take for granted and are unconstitutional.
As for the WA SCourt declaring him a vexatious litigant, that’s a good way to dismiss someone who is a thorn in the side of the govt. Unfortunately the courts and the police on these political cases are extensions of the government, not independent , unbiased arbiters of the law. Legally they are supposed to be indepenent of each other.
Who knows what would happen if Glew was able to take this to The High Court of Australia. Of course he wouldn’t be able to as an individual as he would need hundreds of thousands of dollars to fund the case. Only someone like Clive Palmer could afford that.
I hope you don’t seriously think he was arrested due to any realistic threat to the premier, let alone a technicality under the law. Inciting others to perform a non violent act on anyone isn’t against the law. A citizens arrest is not illegal in and of itself. All it would mean is serving the premier with a written warrant of arrest, and a scheduled court hearing to discuss the matter. No citizen would be physically detaining him,
This is purely political, and all they are trying to do is shut him up, because they fear his ideas might get traction in the wider community. Govt’s really don’t like it when a citizen uses legal, non violent methods to hold them to account, because they can’t automatically claim the moral or legal high ground.
This sort of corruption has been happening all over the country. If you don’t already know look into"Friendly Jordies", vs the now former deputy state premier of NSW, John Barilaro. The deputy didn’t like being held to account for his actions in the media,took out a defamation proceeding vs Jordies. When Jordies’ staff member attempted to serve Barilaro in public with legal documents, Barilaro ignored him, got into a car a drove off. Later that day the staff member was arrested for stalking, by counter terrorist cops, that Barilaro sicked onto him. None of this followed the police’s procedural requirements. High ranking police officals including the commissioner were questioned in senate. All were evasive with their answers, and the truth. That commisioner did not have his term renewed and is now being investigated for other allegations of corruption.
The defamation case was settled out of court. It will be years before all the rest of this stuff is fully examined.
I must apologise to you. Earlier in my life I was unaware of the type of things I’ve been criticising you for not knowing about, I was blissfully unaware. I’d be willing to bet you are a good guy.
You don’t know about this sort of stuff until you hear about it, and you don’t necessarily realise the ramifications of it until much later, maybe even years down the track.
I’m glad you haven’t been having too bad a time in WA, but many others around Australia haven’t fared as well as your personal experience. I also know that if your source of information is MSM, you won’t necessarily even have heard about most of this stuff, they purposefully don’t talk about it if they can, and then if they can’t they will try and minimise it.
Have you heard about allegations of anti riot technology like LRAD, long range audio devices being used on peaceful protestors outside parliment house last weekend?
I haven’t heard a peep about it in the msm, despite at least 2 senators officially requesting information from the federal police on whether they had been used on the public. Nothing on radio, TV, or newspapers.
These were primarily women and children, non violent, back behind lines. The device can be clearly seen deployed and police wearing ear plugs. The group reported headaches, nausea. Some people developed facial burns, similar to bad sunburn, and swelling despite wearing hats and having 50spf suncream on. The federal police commissioner before parliament feigned knowledge about it, and said he would have to “take it on advisement”. This is unprecedented stuff in Australia if true, even if it was used on rioters, let alone people peacefully protesting. A gross abuse of excessive force. I have seen several independent videos of the action on the day, and also of the reported effect, showing and detailing actual damage Lots of suing will happen and certain police will lose their jobs and face charges for unjustified use this kind of weapon.