Victoria “Fuck the Eu” Nuland
Victoria “Oh shit I said the quiet part out loud” Nuland
She seems to have an unfortunate impulse to want to kinda tell the truth. Like when you get pulled over speeding, and you kinda want to be honest, so you say you might have been a little over the limit, you know.
Why would the US have any kind of concern about Russia taking these labs?
And how exactly is it you know what’s been going on since 2014, and can categorically deny any and all accusations as propaganda? I know, let’s have an investigation by the “international community” lol. Isn’t that how we usually do things?
Yes, it’s shows a distinct lack of preparation from the Russian side. They didn’t create a new narrative in advance and are recycling the same villains from 2014. “Neo-nazis”, “ultranationalists”, a “NATO laptop”. Greenwald is doing his best to earn his pay but was given a pretty out-of-date brief by the SVR. Honestly, I’m waiting for Putin to claim that the ghost of John McCain is leading the Ukrainian Air Force.
Because the claim came from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. It’s a simple rule - anything they say (and what they ever said) is an outright lie. Especially since Narishkin basically admitted that they fucked up the “Ukrainian nuclear weapons” pretext and how they had to fall back to a last minute improv with “biological labs”.
Why is Nuland concerned that the enemy will gain control of those labs?
Well, the Russians shelled a nuclear power plant. I’d guess that a bio lab is quite a bit less sturdy and won’t handle drunk rooskies lobbing mortar rounds quite as well.
@loppar I’ll admit you ain’t on this forum to help me find interesting sources. But here’s a mega thread of threads, so if you could just look it over old chap? 
No idea if it’s worth the investment.
Holy crap, this mega-thread is fantastic!
To my (quite limited) knowledge the author is expanding on many topics I wanted to touch upon or lacked the ability to put into writing so succinctly. The role of VDV troops, Chechens, technological dependency on the West… Brilliant. Every post is worth reading.
Thanks, I’ve started reading. Just got through the psyops thread. Appreciate you looking it over.
You’re used to what you’re used to; I made no implication of you being a bad person.
Does this help? There’s no blood, I’m sorry. (now, I implied something…)
Hey, you know what they say…
Let’s not forget that the Russians have nukes yet they cannot even properly spell a five letter name when picking out coordinates from Google Maps. Either incompetence or they don’t give a fuck.
Maybe there’s a lot of overconfidence on Russia’s end.
Similar tk how the soviets thought Finland or Afghanistan would be easy, or how Putin thought Chechnya would be easy
Russian military in general is spectacularly incompetent and overconfident.
Still doesn’t explain how they mixed up two settlements in Europe 1000 miles apart.
"Is that place we’re supposed to hit spelled with a “J” or an “Y”?
“Who gives a fuck, just write the coordinates down, we have to get hammered afterwards”
If I remember correctly, you are a libertarian and Catholic, like Tom Woods. Do you listen to him?
Gilbert Doctorow works for SVR, in other words he takes money from the Russians:
Here’s an article of his where’s he’s trashing… Russian opposition to Putin. Pretty weird that a “independent Russian expert” would pour such vitriol on Russian liberals who oppose(d) Putin and ridicule claims that Russia is a “police state”?
Again, paid Russian apologists can now only appeal to elements of the American right.
Lol.
I hope Ukraine doesn’t have a town with a similar name to mine.
I came across the podcast because I am subscribed to Woods’s channel on You Tube and though not a libertarian, I like some of his content.
I am simply an American almost totally ignorant about Russia and Ukraine and started following this conflict and its background about two weeks ago from various sources, including sources that I followed in the past who are now chiming in on this.
Considering what I’ve consumed, I will not cheer lead or pick a side. So far I only have a general humane concern for innocent people affected.
So apparently the man is biased, and like, oh, everyone or near everyone in this thread and PWI, wants his will imposed on others.
Is there something inherently right or wrong with appealing to any crowd in particular considering anyone involved in politics wants their team to win?
Considering you are well informed on Eastern Europe and speak Russian, what source of info do you think I should go to for this conflict considering I distrust all major US news media?
No it’s not a problem that he’s biased. The problem is that he’s portraying himself as an “independent Russian expert” while literally taking money from the Kremlin.
Since the Mother Russia brand is so toxic (unlike in 2014 or 2016 for that matter) all paid shills have to claim to be “level headed independents” and present their seemingly “unbiased” opinions.
Bruno Macaes, who correctly predicted the events back in November of last year.
That Kamil guy from @tails1 post. As a rule of thumb, always listen to Russian dissidents. They understand Russia. Ivory-tower Western academics who’ve (maybe) seen the inside of a five-star hotel in Moscow and a nineteen year old prostitute are worthless. In addition, former ambassador McFaul gets like 75% of Russia, which is basically miles ahead of everyone else in both current and previous administrations.
On the ground, CJM has been living in Kyiv for a decade now and is still in the city.
Seems like you done picked a side then… How many innocent Russians are affected by this?
Unless you’re saying Russian soldiers invading Ukraine are innocent…
I don’t have a side. @Californiagrown
I refer to innocent Ukrainians.
