Russian Military Buildup Outside Ukraine

He makes Kelly Wells look like a chaste and pious lady!

This would be hysterical, if it were not so true.

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Also, helping all debtors who are incapable of repaying their debt…debt totally attributable to bad choices.

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Because they don’t want a NATO country on their border. Much in the same way Kennedy wouldn’t allow the Soviet Union to place missiles in Cuba.
And Russia is winning and will win despite the recent positive vote(at least in the House) for more funding. Wow, don’tcha feel and see your taxes going up to pay for these wars? Bwahahaha…

There was no consideration of Sweden or Ukraine joining NATO until Russia invaded.

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a convenient fact most of these ā€œRussia is winningā€ folks are missing.
The only thing I do agree with is that the US doesn’t need to fund it.

I’d much rather just fund Ukraine than have Russia eventually attack a NATO country and have to get our troops involved. Much cheaper in American lives and treasure

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Norway says hi.

I don’t think Russia would attack a NATO country, if we just stayed our asses out of it. And didn’t stick our noses where they don’t belong.

This is all about money. The Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, a training ground for corruption. Our own state department under Obama labelled it as such.

Our ā€œleadersā€ don’t give a fuck about the Ukraine or any other NATO country.

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Pyrrhus won too.

Not true.

How true. And I agree this is all about money and control. Why do you think the pipeline was blown up? Can’t have Russia pipe inexpensive resources to Europe. We gotta blow it up and open that market so U.S. companies can charge more for it and make a killing.

But how would we steal other countries resources or do another regime-change war? Gotta choose a government that is friendly with American corporations so they can make more money, because it’s never enough. More wealth addiction.

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Prove otherwise

Yeah, as I said before the best way to navigate a sketchy neighborhood at night is to constantly yell ā€œI don’t want any troubleā€. That’s not how the world works.

The price of everything you import as a country - whether it’s oil, consumer goods, raw materials - is subsidized by the rest of the world by the fact that you have an Empire that can do force projection in every corner of the globe. The same goes for your national debt. It doesn’t matter how big it is if you control the world’s reserve currency and if the collateral are carrier strike groups.

If the US turned isolationist - something Russia and China are spending a shitload of money on, to convince a significant portion of rightwing Americans to commit economic suicide - the price of almost everything from the real world would increase drastically and then you’d be raging on here against Biden or Democrats for ā€œruining the economyā€.

That is factually not correct, the situation changed significantly for the better since the pro-Russians were kicked out from government 10 years ago. Eye-watering corruption by the Russian stooges was the driver for the revolution.

Ukraine now has the same CPI grade as pro-Russian Hungary. One of these countries is allegedly the ā€œmost corrupt on the planetā€ and the other one is a darling of the GOP, hosts a CPAC every year and whose president regularly travels to Mar-a-Lago for one-on-one meetings with Trump.

a convenient fact that people who believe that Russia’s intention was to take over Ukraine are missing is that after the 2014 coup, where the u.s. was heavily involved, Ukraine kept bombing the Russian portion of the country, Donbas, to the point that Russia felt obligated to defend the Russian speaking segement of the population.

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In February 2019, the Ukrainian parliament voted to amend the Constitution of Ukraine to state Ukraine’s goal of NATO and European Union membership.[5][6] At the June 2021 Brussels summit, NATO leaders reiterated the decision taken at the 2008 Bucharest summit that Ukraine would eventually become a NATO member

All before Russia invaded in Feb. 2022

But I’m sure Glen Beck says differently.

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And?

Our government is corrupt too.

I don’t understand your focus on the GOP and right-wing darlings.

The left and right wings are both corrupt and suck too. Same coin - different sides. Not exactly a great example for me to downplay the corruption and incestuous nature of US politics.

No shit?

I guess my main crux is the massive corruption and $ spend. I assume that is something you just have to deal with these days to continue the force projection. Not ideal, but it is what we have.

Again, you assume a lot about me. I don’t play sides. Democrats / Republican fight is old and tiresome. This isn’t about isolationism at all. I don’t see anyone here preaching wholesale isolationism.

Oh with help from the CIA and US government? Lol.

Proof?

That’s because you don’t define it as a Neocon does: Allowing anything to happen anywhere in the world without U.S. involvement. Of course, they hate the policy advice of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington(Jefferson, especially, in general).

No. By the courage of a fruity actor alone.

The best way to go about things is to stay the fuck out of sleazy, corrupt neighborhoods. And to arm yourself and make sure those sleazes know it.

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