@jcpjcp assured me today that this is just a coordinated Wagner/Kremlin misinformation operation to lull Ukraine into complacency while the Russians rearm and regroup. The Wagner troops are moving north towards Moscow NOW, but they will soon turn West and flank the stupid Ukranian pigs.
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This is how you pull off a Jan. 6.
Son, I Am disapoint. So close yet so far.
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Does this mean Putin wonāt have time to help Donald Trumpās 2024 election campaign?
It would be interesting to know what Putin told Prigozhin to get him to go away, but far more interesting would be to know why Prigozhin believed him.
I am sure Belarus is included and it maight be Belarus attacking Ukraine with Wagner
Forced into a corner at the prospect of losing his boys, Prigozhin overplayed his hand.
While I appreciate the sarcasm, Prigozhin himself addressed this in one of his coup announcing Telegram rants.
Prigozhin becoming heir-apparent of Lukashenko in Belarus - Steven Seagalās best friend seems to be seriuosly ill.
Apparently, he was expecting some senior military officials whoāve had good relationship with Wagner to publicly switch sides - that didnāt happen and he was probably at a loss what to do after his thunder run to Moscow.
Anyway, a sex offender/small time burglar is obviously not made of revolutionary stuff. No wonder that vor v zakone from his prison unit claimed that Prigoznih was his prison bitch and that supposedly he enjoyed it.
Itās basically this guy a hundred years later, but without a criminal past. āIām not against revolution, Iām against incompetents in the Ministryā. And note the delayed execution after he outlived his usefulness.
After the October Revolution of 1917 he joined the Bolsheviks. During the Russian Civil War, he commanded large military formations, including the 2nd Cavalry Army. He enjoyed very great popularity among the Don population. He opposed the policy of decossackization and did not receive the support of Leon Trotsky in matters of interaction with the peasantry. In September 1918, he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner No. 3, becoming one of the first cavaliers.
He opposed the incompetent, in his opinion, military leadership of Trotsky. Having learned about the circular letter on decossackization, apparently falsified at the initiative of the Donburo, in a letter to Grigory Sokolnikov, a member of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Southern Front, Mironov wrote: āā¦itās time to disperse the political adventurers from the Donburo (Syrtsov, Larin, Khodorovsky, etc.), and with them Trotsky from the armyā¦ā[5] In August 1919, his opposition to the leadership of the Red Army led him to mutiny, declaring his intention to himself take the leadership of the Southern Front against the Volunteer Army of Anton Denikin. He declared:[6]
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Takes one to know one. 
Weāve discussed this before, but you seem to have forgotten. Iām fluent in Russian and donāt have much need to listen to the western media on these types of events. Iāve listened to all of Prigozhinās and Putinās public statements on the subject. If you donāt think there was something that was promised and discussed behind the scenes, I donāt know what to tell you. Prigozhin clearly got some assurances and made an about face 180. It would be interesting to know what was said and promised. Not interested in western media opinions.
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@jcpjcp Why did Putin want these airmen killed?
Please donāt use the passive voice. Prigozhin on his official Telegram channel declared āwarā on the Russian MoD.
Isnāt it weird that thereās at least three of us here that are fluent Russian speakers and youāre trying to retardsplain us Putinās and Prigozhinās public speeches as well as official communication from both parties?
Even if we ignore for a second, you know, numerous Telegram videos of actual Russians rummaging through the wreckages of these super rare EW air assets that Wagner shot down, you have this - straight from the Kremlin (Rybar).
Please donāt tell me you donāt speak Russian.
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An understandable mistake, as fellow fascists in the Russian ruling circles made the same incorrect assumption. A bunch of subhuman retarded peasantry will capitulate in three days upon coming face to face with Russian military might. Right?..Right?
Well, these forced conscripts had a choice - flee Russia or go to jail. Instead they naively hoped Putin will somehow let them be, waited and waited and then a povestka (military summons) came to their address, and now these Russian mobiks are forced at gunpoint to charge Ukrainian positions without training or weapons.
Oh but youāre missing out on so much stuff youād like from fellow āindependent thinkersā - Russian language Telegram is a real trove of 19th century (antebellum) racism, rabid antisemitism, nazism, national-bolshevism and all other -isms as well as a particularly Russian obsessions with Hitlerās ābetrayalā (aka ābut but we also hate the Joooozā)
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Is that in urban dictionary? 
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Therein lies the fundamental mistake.
Soā¦Russia?
Yet, you are telling the posters that actually speak Russian, what the Russians speaking Russian are actually saying, you know, in Russian; and thatās about as confusing as your lack of perpective and objectivity.
Wow, you are something else.
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Dumber than saying āI donāt speak Russian, but hereās what the Russian speakers are saying, because only I know what they meanā??
Hereās the forest for the trees: Russia was going to roll over the whole of Ukraine in less than a week; now, here you are withā¦what???
Every time thereās a setback on the Russian āsideā, you say: āitās just a flesh woundā. (thatās a Monty Python reference, in case you donāt know)
And to cap it all off, you start insinuating ā'DA CIA!!!ā -ascribing what, exactly? to the intelligence agency that is the laughing stock of most competent intelligence agencies around the world. But the U.S. military industrial complex, which most likely is one of the biggest power players in the U.S. and the world, cannot stand against the might of the Russian military juggernaut?
Get a mirror.
Wow, wow, hold on. That was the Russian idea that in 3 day they will be at Kiev. Itnwas a Russian narative. The same narative is now used in Bulgaria. That the Bulgarians love Russia and soon their army will free us from the EU and NATO slavery. Actually Ivan Kostov, a Bulgarian PM begged NATO on knees to be accepted so we can escape the fate of Ukraine right now.
So do not talk about naratives to me, please. I am pretty aware of Kremlin story telling.
Regarding Ukrainians duying at this war. It is sad, but they are defending Eastern Europe from war and the entire Europe from economic Russian oligarh monopols and corruption. And I am following multiple analyses to know that 1 to 8 ratio is going on for the Russians, because I am pretty aware of the training all the soldiers get. As of right now Ukraine has probably the best trained and most experienced infantry units in the world. I have seen quite a bunch of work their assault units and these guys are operating better even thaN NATO trained soldiers with combat experience. They also probably have the best drone operators. By the end of the war they will have the best mechanized units as well.
So please go and spread your Kremlin propaganda elsewhere. I am dealing with Kremlins useful idiots on a daily basis.
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