It has been said in various articles and magazines that 4-AD-EC one of the components of Mag-10 is 95% anabolic, and just as androgenic as real testosterone. So here is may question to ALL T-men, especially Bill Roberts and Brock Strasser. If one were to take as a loading dose for the first week, 4 doses of Mag-10 daily( 4 grams of 4-AD-EC & 4 grams of A1E= 8 grams week total of androgens). Then for weeks 2-10 take 3 doses of Mag-10 daily ( 3 grams of 4-AD-EC & 3 grams of A1E= 6 grams week total of androgens). Then for week 11 & 12 only take 1 dose of Mag-10. If you combine this 12 week cycle with Myostat at its recommended dosages for 12 weeks, then as a post/recovery cycle take Tribex and M for 8 to 12 weeks at their recommended dosages to bring back your natural testosterone levels. Don’t you think that this type of cycle would blow the doors off of Brocks Gramabol Testosterone Cycle, if one followed the Mag-10 Sucesses diet and training guide? How hard would this cycle be on my hair? I know that this is over the top, but I remember Brock saying that his gramabol cycle would easily put 35lbs of muscle on your frame, and he knowns of someone gaining 47lbs. I want these type of results, but do not want to go the illegal route? Any and all responses are greatly appreciated. THANKS.
As far as Mag-10 goes it is not good to take anymore than 2 doses a day. One dose lasts up to 24 hrs in your system. A second dose is optimal and I believe 4 doses would be harmful!
Harmfull how? Increased BP, aggression, temp. decrease testosterone level, acne? Would it be any more harmfull than a aggressive anabolic stack, like Test+anadrol+armidex, etc…
Do it!! That sounds awsome!! Granted, I can’t say if it would be a waste or not, but it would be cool to try if you can afford it. I would really like to see how well it would work. I would bet you’d gain at least 20 pounds even if you only did 2 doses a day for that long.
I’d be interested to hear Bill’s thoughts on this too
Your dosing regimens might be a little high, but I’ve given this some thought and would like to discuss it further, however you might have to post this in the drug forum in order to get the answers your after. Either way your gonna be spending a butt load of cash on this, but the gramabol cycle would be costly too. If you do go through with it be SURE to keep us posted!
There does come a point where your receptors get too saturated, and 4 doses is probably it. Stick with two bro and save your money, your health, and get gains that are just as good as 4 doses. Stick with the 2 week on two week off plan, the body doesn’t like to put on that much weight without intervals to get use to the new muscle before adding on more. 12 weeks, that’s a good way to mess up your hormones, even if you have something to help you come off, why even do that? Take your time dood, nobody becomes a bodybuilder overnight, patience is a virtue.
I’m afraid you’d be wasting a fortune. Two doses per day is the top of the dose-response curve for Mag-10. Bill has covered this in many times in the past. 2 doses/ day will completely saturate the androgen receptor sites, any extra androgen over and above that will give you nothing positive. Oh, and the Mag-10 will not harm your hairline in any way, as it is not metabolized by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme, and does not convert to DHT. I think you’ll be quite amazed at 2 doses/day. I was very much a skeptic with my first bottle, as my little brother didn’t seem to get the results he wanted. I used one dose/day on a strict cutting diet, and in the first week I GAINED 4 lbs of LBM and lost 3 lbs of fat! I was so dumbfounded I walked around all day with my mouth open after I took my measurements. I can’t wait to give a bulking cycle a shot.
“More is better” is only true to a point with pharmaceutial anabolic steroids, and the
same is true with MAG-10.
For example, you don’t see me ever advising
that 4 grams per week of pharmaceutical anabolic steroids should be taken, arguing that it will do more than one or a little more than one gram. For most individuals it won’t. Around one gram or a little more is plenty for most users, and even for most competitors at mid-levels, two grams is plenty. The exceptions would be those who have developed so far past their natural limit that they’ve gone as far as they can on 2 grams per week, and even in that case, going to 4 grams will allow only a few more pounds and that will be acquired quite slowly (instead, GH and insulin will be the way to significantly increasing gains yet further.)
Without making direct gram equivalence,
the same principle is true with MAG-10.
I don’t think there is significant additional
effect for the great majority of individuals past two doses per day. Also, the 4-AD-EC
component is a strong CNS stimulant. Quite a few users find that two doses per day is
as high as they would want to go, and some find it is more than they want, on this account alone. There’s no point in being unable to sleep, or having accelerated heart rate.
Lastly, why waste money taking more when you
really can’t expect more results.
I have read the other posts and I to thought I may be wasting my money, I know about recepor saturation and the 2 on, 2 off cycles. I remember to, Bill Roberts saying that if one wanted the greatest and fastest gains would be to use it for an extended period of time.(correct?) Also if you believe the reported insane cycles that national and pro-competors use (I would think that their androgen receptors are well and above saturated), and the muscle mass they have achieved, it may be worth doing a “one time” cycle like I stated above. Maybe at higher doses the two ingredients of mag-10 start two work in more pathways? I mean why would someone take 2 grams of Test a week if it did not give better results? Don’t get me wrong I dont want to abuse anything, or screw up my normal hormonal balance, nor do I want to become a “bodybuilder” over night. But since I plan to use Mag-10, have some extra cash on hand I want to get the greatest and biggest bang for my dollar. I WANT A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION!!!
What is this CNC stimulant everybody keeps talking about? Can you feel it? I’ve taking androsol and Mag-10 but never felt anything different.
There’s no such thing as “above saturation.” Saturation would be absolutely 100% of receptors binding their ligand, e.g. a steroid. In actuality all that can happen is approaching saturation, but when close enough for practical purposes this may be called saturation.
Using very high doses of androgens when not already well above one’s natural limit does not give faster gains. The limiting factor in gains isn’t amount of androgen in this case. Don’t assume it is possible to gain say 30 lb LBM in two weeks if you just get enough drug. There comes a point where the drug is not the limiting factor: the body is growing as fast as it can. Believe me, athletes and bodybuilders have been using steroids for a long time and it is known for sure, and no one experienced in them except perhaps a rare idiot out there somewhere remotely believes you’d do better on 4 grams per week than one gram or moderately over (e.g. 1.3 or 1.5 grams) or would recommend it. But if you want to ignore all advice, go ahead…