There is a HUGE difference betweeen guys who have trained for a year and got no results and guys who have trained for 5 to 10 years but still aren’t classed as “elite” but have made great improvements to thier performance and phsyiques.
The latter are well qualified to give advice because they have in fact walked the walk.
The former should only speak when they have a question to ask because in most cases while logically sound, their ideas are unapplicable for a variety of reasons in the real (ie non-internet) world.
I just can’t understand how people keep missing this point.
“Hahahahaa, if that Dulea guy is still alive, he probably tells his friends 'this idiot college kid loaded all my weights, did everything I said, and I stole enough money from him to buy booze for a whole year, plus I got to beat the hell out of him when my wife was out of town and there wasn’t anyone at home to hit. Last motherfucker I tried that with punched me in the fucking mouth and fucked my girlfriend. '”
[quote]daraz wrote:
you guys TOTALLY missed the boat
It’s not about who’s the best trainer or who has the biggest total, it’s about paying your dues before opening your trap to give advice[/quote]
this is exactly what its about and the fact that most people missed that and are arguing about the trivial parts means they have never real seen this environment of elite athletes that mimnaugh is talking about. I have been to the gym where mimnaugh trains and you better be prepared to get told what to do for a long time unless you are someone who has paid their dues through the system.
We see that all the time in the industry with internet guys who never ran elite times (like a 4.4 forty, sub 4.2 pro-agility, or a 10.5 100m) trying to do speed training.
I hate those guys. Ridiculous.
Or some internet lifting guy talking about training for soccer or basketball when he has never run for 10 minutes worth of windsprints, let alone 45 or 90 minutes…
plus never having amazing SAQ and ‘Ups’…
I hate those guys.
I know Bill Parisi ran straight down the jav track, so I guess I better throw away his Agility stuff. And, Joe Defranco has never run a better forty than me, nor jumped anywhere near as high as I do, so what light could he shed on those subjects? I will toss out his stuff also…
Let me rummage through all of my Westside stuff since I train mostly rate dominant sports… I will sell them by week’s end…
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I don’t know if you are being sarcastic or what, but if you are seriously stating that someone can not learn anything from a legit personal trainer b/c he/she has never ran an outstanding 40 or never had an incredible vertical jump stats, then you really have no idea what you are talking about. Performance is one thing, knowledge is another. You can have all the knowledge in the world, but maybe for whatever reason you can not perform b/c of an injury reason or because you are getting older and your body can not physically move the way it used to. I think your statement is WAY OFF!
In my opinion people can earn credibility by producing results for others even if they haven’t, for whatever reason, been able to to achieve the same things themselves.
However exclusively academic knowledge is worse than useless because it inevitably relies on ever evolving, never conclusive studies and trials the results of which all too often just do not seem to produce in life what one would be led to expect.
I’ll give one example. If everything I’ve read about sleep and how much of it I’m supposed to need, were to suddenly come true in my life, I’d be an atrophying, diseased, impotent zombie who shouldn’t live long enough to finish this post.
None of these are true and I rarely sleep more than 4 hours a night and that usually not in a stretch.
Don’t get me wrong we need academics and their studies do give valuable clues, but why oh why do they not translate into reality more often?
The idea that you have to be elite is ridiculous at best. And, I say that as a person with elite accelerative / jumping / agility ability.
But, it is best if you have done the deed, and studied the deed, and taught the deed… times 25,000 or so…
But isn’t this obvious to anyone who would be reading elitefts… it isn’t exactly mainstream.
Anyway, I am done with ths thread. It is based on squatting and benching alot, and I have never benched twice my bodyweigth raw, or squatted 3 times my BW raw… so I am a pus in that world.