Rioting in St. Lou

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

Undoubtedly, true. I loaded the officer’s gun and drugged the black guy so he’d rob a store and then attack a cop.

I also personally caused the death of the McRib sandwich.

In seriousness, for whatever reason there is an axis of radical blacks, the IRA (really), various Muslim terrorist groups (Hamas, ISIS, the PLO, whatever it is at the time), and the usual crappy countries (North Korea, Iran, whatever) that celebrate this kind of thing and blame Jews for basically everything.

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RE the IRA: It was a bit more complicated than that. Long story short, after the signing of the Anglo-Irish Treaty in 1921 there was a civil war between pro-treaty forces and anti-treaty forces. The IRA’s political arm(Sinn Fein) split with Eamon de Valera forming Fianna Fail. Fianna Fail were right-wing nationalists(they’re still the “conservative” party today) - many fought in the Spanish Civil War for the nationalists.

The IRA however was divided - from the mid-30’s onwards they drifted left but also sought an alliance with Nazi Germany. After WWII they drifted right again until the late 60’s. During the troubles they allied themselves with many international left-wing groups including the PLO. They trained in the Beqaa Valley. Since the IRA officially disbanded in 1997 the remnants have been pretty much exclusively involved in organised crime - stand overs, drug dealing, extortion, prostitution, armed robberies etc.

Historically Ireland was pretty much the only country in Europe that never experienced anti-Semitism but not so today - it’s a radicalised shithole like much of the rest of Europe.

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I honestly think this whole debacle will set back race-relations back to the Rodney-King days. Possibly worse. Obama and the Rev. Eric Holder with their rhetoric and actions has have re-exposed wounds that will take decades to heal.

The average, everyday citizen who works for a living sees the thugs looting, rioting, robbing with their taunts and it reinforces negative racial stereotypes. Or if you are a minority, it will fuel this continued attitude of “oppression” and “unequal justice”. Is this done on purpose? I know that the cop will be indicted, but is seems every day there are additional bits and pieces that continue to support the cops version. NOTHING has contradicted his version yet. I admit, I jumped the gun a little too. If he is found not guilty… holy shit. Look the hell out. It’s like the politician said, these riots will look like a party in comparison to whats to come.

And the race issue aside, the citizen-police relationship will take a hit. The same average citizen see the excessive police response with their military equipment, and we think WTF? And in turn, this hate and negativity will turn the police into a institution who will just “protect” and cold care less about “serving”. It’s an us vs. them mentality that this will create. The only positive thing I can see is the increase use (possible) of body cams and dash cams.

So prediction, will this be worse than Rodney King??

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[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

So prediction, will this be worse than Rodney King??

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No, it will be different.

I know that’s a shitty answer but things are different, times are different and this is MO not CA. You know?

It may be pretty damn ugly, but it won’t be King.

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There is another shooting that could turn into a Rodney King incident, and that is the shooting of a mentally ill man in South Los Angeles.

An LAPD statement, citing a preliminary investigation, said Ford tackled one of two gang officers who approached him on West 65th Street and reached for the officer’s gun, prompting both officers to open fire. But a friend of Ford’s family told The Times that she witnessed part of the incident and saw no struggle between the officers and Ford.

Shit is about to pop off over here.

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Wilson’s accomplice recants — says he lied; Wilson went for the gun.

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The guy hired by Brown’s family to do their own autopsy…apparently does not have any kind of pertinent degree.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The guy hired by Brown’s family to do their own autopsy…apparently does not have any kind of pertinent degree.

http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/[/quote]

Lone pro-Wilson witness recants
12 witnesses support cop
Autopsy consistent with attack by Wilson
Cop has broken eye socket consistent with attack by Wilson and completely inconsistent with MSM story
Cop has clean record
Wilson has long rap sheet
Wilson just robbed a store and presumably resisted thinking he was going to be arrested

Of course, Obama regime will still seek to prosecute

Holder will still bring charges. It’s what he does.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The guy hired by Brown’s family to do their own autopsy…apparently does not have any kind of pertinent degree.

http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/[/quote]

Lone pro-Wilson witness recants
12 witnesses support cop
Autopsy consistent with attack by Wilson
Cop has broken eye socket consistent with attack by Wilson and completely inconsistent with MSM story
Cop has clean record
Wilson has long rap sheet
Wilson just robbed a store and presumably resisted thinking he was going to be arrested

Of course, Obama regime will still seek to prosecute

Holder will still bring charges. It’s what he does.[/quote]

I’m sure you are right…and when he is found not guilty, it will be a war zone there.

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[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Well, but that’s the thing. Their initial reactions are directly responsible for a very, very large chunk of the current mess. If they had been able to handle it better the protests, in my opinion, would likely not have escalated near this far. At least not this fast.[/quote]

I disagree. I think the escalation had FAR more to do with irresponsible media coverage basically asserting as fact that an unarmed teen was “gunned down” while trying to peacefully surrender. Normally, when a crime is reported and facts are still being gathered words like “allegedly” and “according to so-and-so” are used. None of that seemed to happen here. There was an instant narrative, again basically asserted as fact, that a heinous act was perpetrated by this cop.

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[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Well, but that’s the thing. Their initial reactions are directly responsible for a very, very large chunk of the current mess. If they had been able to handle it better the protests, in my opinion, would likely not have escalated near this far. At least not this fast.[/quote]

I disagree. I think the escalation had FAR more to do with irresponsible media coverage basically asserting as fact that an unarmed teen was “gunned down” while trying to peacefully surrender. Normally, when a crime is reported and facts are still being gathered words like “allegedly” and “according to so-and-so” are used. None of that seemed to happen here. There was an instant narrative, again basically asserted as fact, that a heinous act was perpetrated by this cop.[/quote]

Agreed. The MSLM is like a pack of wild dogs looking for flesh to tear apart publicly for ratings. And that’s exactly what they did here. And of course, as the “facts” come in, they will be downplayed, misrepresented and conveniently overlooked until the last possible drop of panic has been wrung from the situation. Then there will be no accountability and live will return to normal.

The officer will be forever publicly persecuted, despite overwhelming evidence that he acted correctly. This apparent Thug/Criminal will forever have “victim status” and god help those who speak ill of him - he was just a gentle giant caught in a bad situation, NOT HIS FAULT…

Makes me sick…

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
The guy hired by Brown’s family to do their own autopsy…apparently does not have any kind of pertinent degree.

http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/[/quote]

Lone pro-Wilson witness recants
12 witnesses support cop
Autopsy consistent with attack by Wilson
Cop has broken eye socket consistent with attack by Wilson and completely inconsistent with MSM story
Cop has clean record
Wilson has long rap sheet
Wilson just robbed a store and presumably resisted thinking he was going to be arrested

Of course, Obama regime will still seek to prosecute

Holder will still bring charges. It’s what he does.[/quote]

Not trying to be a dick but WIlson is the cop. Brown is the deceased.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Well, but that’s the thing. Their initial reactions are directly responsible for a very, very large chunk of the current mess. If they had been able to handle it better the protests, in my opinion, would likely not have escalated near this far. At least not this fast.[/quote]

I disagree. I think the escalation had FAR more to do with irresponsible media coverage basically asserting as fact that an unarmed teen was “gunned down” while trying to peacefully surrender. Normally, when a crime is reported and facts are still being gathered words like “allegedly” and “according to so-and-so” are used. None of that seemed to happen here. There was an instant narrative, again basically asserted as fact, that a heinous act was perpetrated by this cop.[/quote]

Agreed. The MSLM is like a pack of wild dogs looking for flesh to tear apart publicly for ratings. And that’s exactly what they did here. And of course, as the “facts” come in, they will be downplayed, misrepresented and conveniently overlooked until the last possible drop of panic has been wrung from the situation. Then there will be no accountability and live will return to normal.

The officer will be forever publicly persecuted, despite overwhelming evidence that he acted correctly. This apparent Thug/Criminal will forever have “victim status” and god help those who speak ill of him - he was just a gentle giant caught in a bad situation, NOT HIS FAULT…

Makes me sick…[/quote]

And Holder will still file charges, and drag that guy through the mud for months.

What a douche.

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[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Well, but that’s the thing. Their initial reactions are directly responsible for a very, very large chunk of the current mess. If they had been able to handle it better the protests, in my opinion, would likely not have escalated near this far. At least not this fast.[/quote]

I disagree. I think the escalation had FAR more to do with irresponsible media coverage basically asserting as fact that an unarmed teen was “gunned down” while trying to peacefully surrender. Normally, when a crime is reported and facts are still being gathered words like “allegedly” and “according to so-and-so” are used. None of that seemed to happen here. There was an instant narrative, again basically asserted as fact, that a heinous act was perpetrated by this cop.[/quote]

One of the best posts yet.

People on both sides of the spectrum are feeding off of this media frenzy. And it just divides the country, both by ideology and race. The media has no shame or accountability.

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[quote]BPCorso wrote:

[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Well, but that’s the thing. Their initial reactions are directly responsible for a very, very large chunk of the current mess. If they had been able to handle it better the protests, in my opinion, would likely not have escalated near this far. At least not this fast.[/quote]

I disagree. I think the escalation had FAR more to do with irresponsible media coverage basically asserting as fact that an unarmed teen was “gunned down” while trying to peacefully surrender. Normally, when a crime is reported and facts are still being gathered words like “allegedly” and “according to so-and-so” are used. None of that seemed to happen here. There was an instant narrative, again basically asserted as fact, that a heinous act was perpetrated by this cop.[/quote]

One of the best posts yet.

People on both sides of the spectrum are feeding off of this media frenzy. And it just divides the country, both by ideology and race. The media has no shame or accountability.[/quote]

The media heard about an unarmed Black youth was shot in killed in broad daylight, and they ran with it.

Problem is, someone who is 6’4 and 300 lbs IS a weapon himself.

And this bullshit about how he tried to pull the kid into the police car, oh please. You know how hard it is to push around a guy that big ?

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“…People on both sides of the spectrum are feeding off of this media frenzy…”

Agree, BP.

Mufasa

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

Undoubtedly, true. I loaded the officer’s gun and drugged the black guy so he’d rob a store and then attack a cop.

I also personally caused the death of the McRib sandwich.

In seriousness, for whatever reason there is an axis of radical blacks, the IRA (really), various Muslim terrorist groups (Hamas, ISIS, the PLO, whatever it is at the time), and the usual crappy countries (North Korea, Iran, whatever) that celebrate this kind of thing and blame Jews for basically everything.

[/quote]

RE the IRA: It was a bit more complicated than that. Long story short, after the signing of the Anglo-Irish Treaty in 1921 there was a civil war between pro-treaty forces and anti-treaty forces. The IRA’s political arm(Sinn Fein) split with Eamon de Valera forming Fianna Fail. Fianna Fail were right-wing nationalists(they’re still the “conservative” party today) - many fought in the Spanish Civil War for the nationalists.

The IRA however was divided - from the mid-30’s onwards they drifted left but also sought an alliance with Nazi Germany. After WWII they drifted right again until the late 60’s. During the troubles they allied themselves with many international left-wing groups including the PLO. They trained in the Beqaa Valley. Since the IRA officially disbanded in 1997 the remnants have been pretty much exclusively involved in organised crime - stand overs, drug dealing, extortion, prostitution, armed robberies etc.

Historically Ireland was pretty much the only country in Europe that never experienced anti-Semitism but not so today - it’s a radicalised shithole like much of the rest of Europe.[/quote]

True for all but the last part. Interestingly, there was special recognition of the Jewish population in our 1923 Constitution. We removed it in 1937, but we have been explicitly protective of it since.
That said, since the EU and the crony left got their claws into us, everything has gotten steadily worse over time. We have our share of barely functional university students flying PLO flags, like everyone else, but to call Ireland a radicalised shithole is a bit of a stretch.
(Your assessment of the current state of the IRA is, however, spot on.)

Up until very recently, I would have been proud of my country’s record on the Jewish peoples, but our current ambassadors in the media/ academia do us no favours.

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^^Fair point. It was a bit inflammatory of me to describe Ireland as a “radicalised shithole.” Although I do view Western Europe and my own country as well(Australia) as having very much moved towards the far-left in general.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
^^Fair point. It was a bit inflammatory of me to describe Ireland as a “radicalised shithole.” Although I do view Western Europe and my own country as well(Australia) as having very much moved towards the far-left in general.[/quote]

I agree, broadly speaking anyway.