How long do you suppose it will last? Since Rev. Al is on the scene, I suppose the looting will last longer than 3 days.
Is this Trayvon II?
What will happen if the cop isn’t tried and convicted? More riots?
I want more background on the kid. If he was a good kid and getting ready to go to college, why didn’t he just get out of the road like the cop said and what the hell was he doing reaching for the cop’s gun?
I want to know about the “fight”? Did the cop have any injuries?
Multiple witnesses told KMOV that Brown was unarmed and had his hands up in the air when he was cut down.
The officer “shot again and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air,” said witness Dorian Johnson. “He started to get down and the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and fired several more shots.”
Should be pretty easy for the medical examiner to verify this.
Okay…
Person A shoots Person B, and it appears it wasn’t a justified shooting to People X.
People X are pissed and protest, yell scream, basically letting it be known they are upset.
Up until this point I’m totally on board here. Be angry, show your anger, fine. Evidence is still in process etc, but go ahead and be upset.
Then…
People X decide the best thing to do is to destroy the property of People Y, not Person A, not People X, but innocents who had damn near nothing to do with it. That is where it is stupid and reason number 486 you shouldn’t fight for “gun control”.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You are one lowlife piece of scum if someone in your neighborhood gets wrongfully killed and your reaction is, “Yee ha! I’m gonna go git me a free TV!”[/quote]
All of this is going on in my backyard, so-to-speak. I live in Saint Louis South County and the incident occured in North County, and I work in the city. However, I have not had direct contact with any of the occurances.
There are serveral places that I will not be visiting or going with my family until this settles.
The lack of objectivity displayed (at least shown in the media) is appalling. There is a growing sense of mob mentality. The community should question what happened and seek answers, but don’t take actions that destroy the same community (or any other community for that matter).
Emotions should be guided by the facts and not the other way around, and the facts are not clear yet.
An example of what to do when injustice occurs happended in the Kirkwood shooting in 2008. Kirkwood is a suburb of St. Louis and where I grew up. The gunman killed seven people which included police officers, council members, and the mayor. The shooting did not spark riots but instead prayer services and vigils were held.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I have to admit that I was skeptical, but I saw his friend interviewed twice and tend to believe his story.
It sounds like a cop who just got angry and lost control.[/quote]
If that’s the case the cop ought to get the death penalty.
And the other fucking losers who went on a looting spree ought to be gunned down in their tracks.[/quote]
Agreed. If the cop murdered the kid, which is possible, he should be punished as such. (I’m not a big death penalty guy, but sentiments aside…)
And protests and upset people, screaming yelling, etc… All fine. All good, and not only expected, but makes me love our country that these people are making their voices known… BUt to loot and destroy shit, that is barbaric and down right wrong.
[quote]albron wrote:
All of this is going on in my backyard, so-to-speak. I live in Saint Louis South County and the incident occured in North County, and I work in the city. However, I have not had direct contact with any of the occurances.
There are serveral places that I will not be visiting or going with my family until this settles.
The lack of objectivity displayed (at least shown in the media) is appalling. There is a growing sense of mob mentality. The community should question what happened and seek answers, but don’t take actions that destroy the same community (or any other community for that matter).
Emotions should be guided by the facts and not the other way around, and the facts are not clear yet.
An example of what to do when injustice occurs happended in the Kirkwood shooting in 2008. Kirkwood is a suburb of St. Louis and where I grew up. The gunman killed seven people which included police officers, council members, and the mayor. The shooting did not spark riots but instead prayer services and vigils were held.
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Thanks for posting. Can you keep us apprised of the developments? And can you compare and contrast these reports with your own observations?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I have to admit that I was skeptical, but I saw his friend interviewed twice and tend to believe his story.
It sounds like a cop who just got angry and lost control.[/quote]
If that’s the case the cop ought to get the death penalty.
And the other fucking losers who went on a looting spree ought to be gunned down in their tracks.[/quote]
Agreed. If the cop murdered the kid, which is possible, he should be punished as such. (I’m not a big death penalty guy, but sentiments aside…)
And protests and upset people, screaming yelling, etc… All fine. All good, and not only expected, but makes me love our country that these people are making their voices known… BUt to loot and destroy shit, that is barbaric and down right wrong. [/quote]
Don’t know about the death penalty. They need to show evidence it was premeditated, that he executed the kid. I heard several conflicting reports concerning this. But I will say, it’s gonna be an uphill climb for the cop.
The crime by the mob is disturbing. It feeds into the idea that police have difficult jobs enforcing the law in a hostile, violent community. A community that dislikes the police (legitimate reasons or otherwise).
Agree that this conduct may taint a jury pool?? Plus, potential jurors are going to be from the suburb, not the inner city, no?
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Don’t know about the death penalty. They need to show evidence it was premeditated, that he executed the kid. I heard several conflicting reports concerning this. But I will say, it’s gonna be an uphill climb for the cop. [/quote]
Specific to the DP, I think Push was alluding more towards sentiment rather than legal availability, but I could be wrong.
Just like the Zimmerman case, this will be decided in the court of public opinion long before jury selection and the trial will just end up being something for one side to piss and moan about. No one will care about the lives involved, just getting their social media hashtag activism and outrage porn on.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Ferguson police chief Tom Jackson said the officers who arrested two reporters (for videotaping and photographing the SWAT team) were “probably somebody who didn’t know better.”
Read more: Reporters ARRESTED In Ferguson, Site Of Police Shooting | The Daily Caller
Good grief, what an outfit. No wonder they have problems there.[/quote]
Maybe the problem is not just the thin blue line but also the double helix if you get my drift.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Ferguson police chief Tom Jackson said the officers who arrested two reporters (for videotaping and photographing the SWAT team) were “probably somebody who didn’t know better.”
Read more: Reporters ARRESTED In Ferguson, Site Of Police Shooting | The Daily Caller
Good grief, what an outfit. No wonder they have problems there.[/quote]
Errr, isn’t SWAT supposed to be a select group of highly trained officers??
I also saw where the police shot and killed another man. Apparently he shot at the police. He was also identified as a looter during the riots. What a mess.
Shooting unarmed people
Arresting reporters “cuz they don’t know better” (but are still qualified to participate in SWAT team activities)
3 black people in their entire police department representing a 60% black community…
Hmmmmm…
But they’re just GOOD COPS doing their jobs, right? Give me a fucking break.
I would suggest that a bit of oversight of that department is needed. Possibly some additional training.
The way the cops are going out of their way to stay mum on this makes me think something stinks about this whole thing.
And the stink seems to be coming from rotten pork.
[quote]albron wrote:
All of this is going on in my backyard, so-to-speak. I live in Saint Louis South County and the incident occured in North County, and I work in the city. However, I have not had direct contact with any of the occurances.
There are serveral places that I will not be visiting or going with my family until this settles.
The lack of objectivity displayed (at least shown in the media) is appalling. There is a growing sense of mob mentality. The community should question what happened and seek answers, but don’t take actions that destroy the same community (or any other community for that matter).
Emotions should be guided by the facts and not the other way around, and the facts are not clear yet.
An example of what to do when injustice occurs happended in the Kirkwood shooting in 2008. Kirkwood is a suburb of St. Louis and where I grew up. The gunman killed seven people which included police officers, council members, and the mayor. The shooting did not spark riots but instead prayer services and vigils were held.
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So you don’t see the difference between a gunman killing somebody, and already supposed oppressing police force shooting down someone they feel is a criminal for no reason?