[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Note, this does not make this a legit shooting, .[/quote]
Agreed at this point does nothing but clear up the chain of events.
Oh, and it also blows a hole in the entire “you only need a 10 round mag” bullshit. A trained man couldn’t hit center mass on a 6’4" 300lbs individual in a fight… I need a lot more than 10 rounds.
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. If you look at the difference between the claims made at the beginning, to where we are now with video evidence, and autopsy results, this is 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Ridiculous. You notice the difference in statements between professional scientist/doctors:
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,â?? he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brownâ??s head. â??It can be because heâ??s giving up, or because heâ??s charging forward at the officer. We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car” â??
He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.
and the lawyers: “We want to make sure people understand what this case is about: This case is about a police officer executing a young unarmed man in broad daylight.”
Fucking lawyers.
(with respect to JB and Jackkrash)
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Note, this does not make this a legit shooting, .[/quote]
Agreed at this point does nothing but clear up the chain of events.
Oh, and it also blows a hole in the entire “you only need a 10 round mag” bullshit. A trained man couldn’t hit center mass on a 6’4" 300lbs individual in a fight… I need a lot more than 10 rounds. [/quote]
True. Esp if the first shots hit the guys arm, and he kept charging. Cops are trained to stop the threat, so I’m sure he shot him until he dropped. It doesn’t matter where or how many times the dude was shot, if he was justified to shoot in the first place.
If this cop isn’t charged or is aquited, there will be the worst riots this country has ever seen.
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Note, this does not make this a legit shooting, .[/quote]
Agreed at this point does nothing but clear up the chain of events.
Oh, and it also blows a hole in the entire “you only need a 10 round mag” bullshit. A trained man couldn’t hit center mass on a 6’4" 300lbs individual in a fight… I need a lot more than 10 rounds. [/quote]
True. Esp if the first shots hit the guys arm, and he kept charging. Cops are trained to stop the threat, so I’m sure he shot him until he dropped. It doesn’t matter where or how many times the dude was shot, if he was justified to shoot in the first place.
If this cop isn’t charged or is aquited, there will be the worst riots this country has ever seen.
[/quote]
If it turns out he was charging the cop, we agree.
I want to clarify my use of the word “fight” was simply that a shooting happened, so it was a “fight”. I’m not saying I certainly believe there was an actual “fight” just that I’m trying to make a point about 10 round mags, NOT this situation.
If a trained officer can’t have a better grouping than that on a fuck giant of a young man (particularly if it was an “execution” style shooting) then my non-police trained ass certainly needs 15ish round. That’s all I’m saying using the word “fight”.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
The other side of the story:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ferguson-police-officer-version/2014/08/18/id/589457/[/quote]
That is starting to look a lot more plausible. It is proven now that the officer did not shot Big Mike in the back.
“Gentle Giant”
Like Push said…
Imagine that…two sides to the story.
This is so George Zimmerman 2.0. Like someone else said, imagine when/if he isn’t convicted…
And half the community is trying to figure out how to make Molotov cocktails while their friends plan which store to loot.
Never let a good riot go to waste.
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
This is so George Zimmerman 2.0. .[/quote]
No, not really, and we need not go down that road.
Race was a primary issue in the Zimmerman case, whether it should be or not. This is a case about cops going too far, and race is secondary.
I’ve seen reports that there are racial tensions between police and citizens in this area, and that is something that needs to be resolved, however, this shooting isn’t about skin color, its about:
a) Did a cop fuck up big time or not? (And I’d like to think the outrage would be equal if the kid was white.)
b) Was the reaction AFTER the shooting by police way out of line too? And this point def doesn’t matter if the cops are too heavy handed on black or white people, it isn’t right no matter the skin color.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
(And I’d like to think the outrage would be equal if the kid was white.)
[/quote]
Sorry Beans…when do the good “Reverends” show up for black on black or white on white crime?
When do riots happen for black on black crime?
This is 100% about race, 100%
If the cop had been black it would not have made it out of regional news.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
(And I’d like to think the outrage would be equal if the kid was white.)
[/quote]
Sorry Beans…when do the good “Reverends” show up for black on black or white on white crime?
When do riots happen for black on black crime?
This is 100% about race, 100%
If the cop had been black it would not have made it out of regional news.[/quote]
The cop issue makes it a good cover story for the left to claim its not about racism. Police shoot so called defenseless people all the time even regionally it goes away after a day if race isn’t involved.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
(And I’d like to think the outrage would be equal if the kid was white.)
[/quote]
Sorry Beans…when do the good “Reverends” show up for black on black or white on white crime?
When do riots happen for black on black crime?
This is 100% about race, 100%
If the cop had been black it would not have made it out of regional news.[/quote]
The cop issue makes it a good cover story for the left to claim its not about racism. Police shoot so called defenseless people all the time even regionally it goes away after a day if race isn’t involved.[/quote]
Even when one is black and the other white it goes away.
The riots/looting massive police response is what made this news, the racial angle, while likely there for the locals, wasn’t what made this national news. It was the police response.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
(And I’d like to think the outrage would be equal if the kid was white.)
[/quote]
Sorry Beans…when do the good “Reverends” show up for black on black or white on white crime?
When do riots happen for black on black crime?
This is 100% about race, 100%
If the cop had been black it would not have made it out of regional news.[/quote]
The cop issue makes it a good cover story for the left to claim its not about racism. Police shoot so called defenseless people all the time even regionally it goes away after a day if race isn’t involved.[/quote]
Even when one is black and the other white it goes away.
The riots/looting massive police response is what made this news, the racial angle, while likely there for the locals, wasn’t what made this national news. It was the police response. [/quote]
Agree to disagree…it was a white cop shooting a black kid, that brought the national media.
That and the people using the incident to get a new big screen
/O.J.'d
Look at this bullshit:
“St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch, who is in charge of the investigation, also is white. He comes from a family of police officers, including his father. When he was 12, his father was fatally shot by a black man while responding to a call. In a 2000 case, McCulloch brought no charges against two officers who fired 21 shots into a vehicle, killing two black men during an attempted drug arrest.”
Unbelievable reporting. Simply unbelievable.
And the Rev. Eric Holder is considering civil-rights charges against the cops.