Rioting in St. Lou

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
One thing in this whole deal and would like explained. How is showing the video of Mr. Brown strong arm robbing someone an act of character assignation?

Isn’t it showing a proof of character?

If in the video the store employee would have pulled a gun and shot Mr. Brown when he turned around and aggressively approached him would it be justified homicide?
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Just shows me he was just another cheap thug. Did he deserve to die? Depends on what actually went down in that officer confrontation.[/quote]

I agree. I just don’t consider it character assignation. It happened within 30 minutes of the confrontation. I think it is relevant to what his state of mind that day was. If it was a video from a day prior or a week prior it would still be admissible, but I would agree that it should not be released the same day as the officers name.

It just seems to me it’s like this. “We demand the police force have transparency in this case. We want the facts of this case released now!!!”

“Why the fuck are you releasing this video of the victim committing a strong arm robbery minutes before the confrontation with the police officer?”

Why do some of the residents then decide on the same day of the video release go and loot the very same business that Mr. Brown robbed in the video?

The victim was being described as a gentle giant. That is now clear that it is not a true description of him. But, if the confrontation with the officer had moved away from a life threatening situation and the victim was giving up, I don’t think the officer had the right to use deadly force.

No dashboard camera on the cop car? All cops across this country should be equipped with a gopro camera on their uniforms as a standard equipment requirement.

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
One thing in this whole deal and would like explained. How is showing the video of Mr. Brown strong arm robbing someone an act of character assignation?

Isn’t it showing a proof of character?

If in the video the store employee would have pulled a gun and shot Mr. Brown when he turned around and aggressively approached him would it be justified homicide?
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Just shows me he was just another cheap thug. Did he deserve to die? Depends on what actually went down in that officer confrontation.[/quote]

I agree. I just don’t consider it character assignation. It happened within 30 minutes of the confrontation. I think it is relevant to what his state of mind that day was. If it was a video from a day prior or a week prior it would still be admissible, but I would agree that it should not be released the same day as the officers name.

It just seems to me it’s like this. “We demand the police force have transparency in this case. We want the facts of this case released now!!!”

“Why the fuck are you releasing this video of the victim committing a strong arm robbery minutes before the confrontation with the police officer?”

Why do some of the residents then decide on the same day of the video release go and loot the very same business that Mr. Brown robbed in the video?

The victim was being described as a gentle giant. That is now clear that it is not a true description of him. But, if the confrontation with the officer had moved away from a life threatening situation and the victim was giving up, I don’t think the officer had the right to use deadly force.

No dashboard camera on the cop car? All cops across this country should be equipped with a gopro camera on their uniforms as a standard equipment requirement.[/quote]

Good points and good questions. I have another question. Why is this a “racially-charged” shooting? Is there any reason that he stopped/shot this lad due to his race? Can someone please enlighten me?

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
One thing in this whole deal and would like explained. How is showing the video of Mr. Brown strong arm robbing someone an act of character assignation?

Isn’t it showing a proof of character?

If in the video the store employee would have pulled a gun and shot Mr. Brown when he turned around and aggressively approached him would it be justified homicide?
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Just shows me he was just another cheap thug. Did he deserve to die? Depends on what actually went down in that officer confrontation.[/quote]

I agree. I just don’t consider it character assignation. It happened within 30 minutes of the confrontation. I think it is relevant to what his state of mind that day was. If it was a video from a day prior or a week prior it would still be admissible, but I would agree that it should not be released the same day as the officers name.

It just seems to me it’s like this. “We demand the police force have transparency in this case. We want the facts of this case released now!!!”

“Why the fuck are you releasing this video of the victim committing a strong arm robbery minutes before the confrontation with the police officer?”

Why do some of the residents then decide on the same day of the video release go and loot the very same business that Mr. Brown robbed in the video?

The victim was being described as a gentle giant. That is now clear that it is not a true description of him. But, if the confrontation with the officer had moved away from a life threatening situation and the victim was giving up, I don’t think the officer had the right to use deadly force.

No dashboard camera on the cop car? All cops across this country should be equipped with a gopro camera on their uniforms as a standard equipment requirement.[/quote]

Good points and good questions. I have another question. Why is this a “racially-charged” shooting? Is there any reason that he stopped/shot this lad due to his race? Can someone please enlighten me?[/quote]

Right

Witness to the entire scene can be heard in the background.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/

In defense of the citizens of Ferguson, I remember hearing an interview of a local older woman on the radio after the first day of the looting that the folks doing the looting WERE NOT FROM FERGUSON (haven’t heard anyone say that since). This town has turned into a flashpoint of racial tension and violence. But I would submit for your consideration that there is a strong possibility that the extent to which the looting and violence has escalated is not “homegrown”. These types of situations attract radical fringe elements who make the most noise. What started off as a peaceful protest has turned into a week of looting and a metric shit ton of racial tension and MEDIA COVERAGE… Read between the lines. Who’s agenda is being furthered by all of this? WHO IS MAKING THE MONEY?

Could it be… THE LIBERAL MAIN STREAM MEDIA?

That’s probably true. The media coverage is attracting all types of degenerates. Someone should do a story of the home addresses for the arrested people doing this crazy shit. It’s public record.

And speaking of low-lifes from out of town, I’m including the race hustling reverends: Al and Jesse.

The first of 20 autopsys in this shooting is showing is was shot 6 times in the FRONT. Was not shot in the back.

This “witness” has zero credibility.

National Guard now deployed to Ferguson.

Yeah, this is turning into a shit show. All of this “racial violence” is manufactured. And this is going up the chain to the highest levels…

Why is the fucking Attorney General involved AT THE BEGINNING suppressing video? Why was the name of the officer not released sooner?

Am I the only one that thinks this “story” is starting to stink? Who is pulling the strings here? Is it an incompetent racist police department, or is it larger than that? What outcome are they looking for and what agenda is being furthered by all of this…

In other words, how is the government going to use this incident to further it’s own aims, take more power and further erode our rights and freedoms?

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This Holder feller is some piece of work:

Holder DOJ Behind the Suppression of Michael Brown Robbery Video

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/08/17/Holder-DOJ-Behind-the-Suppression-of-Michael-Brown-Robbery-Video[/quote]

Pretty damned incredible.[/quote]

Never let a crisis go to waste.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Yeah, this is turning into a shit show. All of this “racial violence” is manufactured. And this is going up the chain to the highest levels…

Why is the fucking Attorney General involved AT THE BEGINNING suppressing video? Why was the name of the officer not released sooner?

Am I the only one that thinks this “story” is starting to stink? Who is pulling the strings here? Is it an incompetent racist police department, or is it larger than that? What outcome are they looking for and what agenda is being furthered by all of this…

In other words, how is the government going to use this incident to further it’s own aims, take more power and further erode our rights and freedoms?[/quote]

Because Eric Holder labeled himself an activist Attorney General, and proud of it.

This is race baiting at it’s finest. You heard Obama mention the possible activist judges at work during the SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare, while the entire time it has been his own administration being nothing more than activists.

Some of the biggest liars are lawyers and activists, this clown is both.

[quote]Brett620 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This Holder feller is some piece of work:

Holder DOJ Behind the Suppression of Michael Brown Robbery Video

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/08/17/Holder-DOJ-Behind-the-Suppression-of-Michael-Brown-Robbery-Video[/quote]

Pretty damned incredible.[/quote]

Never let a crisis go to waste.
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Why would Holder want the video suppressed? Did he not want the video included at all? Or was he complicit to wait and release it to stir up racial tensions? It seriously cannot be the latter, can it? It’s like we are living in Alice in Wonderland!!

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]Brett620 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This Holder feller is some piece of work:

Holder DOJ Behind the Suppression of Michael Brown Robbery Video

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/08/17/Holder-DOJ-Behind-the-Suppression-of-Michael-Brown-Robbery-Video[/quote]

Pretty damned incredible.[/quote]

Never let a crisis go to waste.
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Why would Holder want the video suppressed? Did he not want the video included at all? Or was he complicit to wait and release it to stir up racial tensions? It seriously cannot be the latter, can it? It’s like we are living in Alice in Wonderland!!
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We are living in OBAMALAND…

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

Why would Holder want the video suppressed? Did he not want the video included at all? Or was he complicit to wait and release it to stir up racial tensions? It seriously cannot be the latter, can it? It’s like we are living in Alice in Wonderland!!
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It’s done to stir up the base for Senate elections. They need an element of society to feel oppressed/angry.

It’s how they do things like import low-skilled illegals that compete with blacks for jobs and yet get away with claiming to be “pro black.”

The private autopsy debunks the “running away” claim and is consistent with being shot while charging and leading with the right hand. Right hand probably shot from 1-2 feet. Be curious to know if he was right-handed.

Note, this does not make this a legit shooting, just debunks the most popular story of the guy being shot while running away.

6 holes in front front/side, with two possibly being from the same bullets (i.e., potentially 4 shots, not 6)

They are doing better work to figure out his actual position(s).

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Coupled with the eyewitness who is on tape saying the victim was charging the cop, however, I doubt they will ever get a prosecution of the cop, regardless of whatever really happened. It’s “beyond a reasonable doubt,” remember, and that’s not there.