Rioting in St. Lou

[SexMachine]

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I have found in California, the group that screams “racism” the most is white liberals.[/quote]

[MaximusB]

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I have found in California, the group that screams “racism” the most is white liberals.[/quote]

I think Latinos are the most racist here. They are racist even among themselves.

[NorCal916]

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I have found in California, the group that screams “racism” the most is white liberals.[/quote]

I think Latinos are the most racist here. They are racist even among themselves. [/quote]

True. It seems everyone hates the Guatemalans.

But then again, there is blacks with the whole light skin vs. dark skin (specially females).

But I still don’t know what “bright skin” is.

[NorCal916]

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Re: the second police shooting in St Louis the other day:

Was Kajieme Powell Really Holding High a Knife When Shot to Death by Police?

Was Kajieme Powell Really Holding High a Knife When Shot to Death by Police?

Can’t tell if he’s holding a knife but he absolutely is NOT “holding it high” as the police chief claimed.

Troubling.[/quote]

They probably saw a weapon, and said “this will be a good shoot”.

[Pearsy92]

This reminds me of Dave Chapelle and his joke about white people’s shock reading about police brutality in the black community in the 60’s.

White people’s attitude on the way minorities are treated by law enforcement vary from complete dismissal and accusations of paranoia or defending it. As someone who identifies with the right wing in many ways it depresses the shit out of me criticism of this is left to the left.
Examples of structural racism would be the drug laws and the war on drugs.

[Pearsy92]

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Re: the second police shooting in St Louis the other day:

Was Kajieme Powell Really Holding High a Knife When Shot to Death by Police?

Was Kajieme Powell Really Holding High a Knife When Shot to Death by Police?

Can’t tell if he’s holding a knife but he absolutely is NOT “holding it high” as the police chief claimed.

Troubling.[/quote]

They probably saw a weapon, and said “this will be a good shoot”.[/quote]

Sounds like the account of cops in L.A seeing black men running and saying “shoot, its free!”.

[SexMachine]

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

Examples of structural racism would be the drug laws and the war on drugs.

[/quote]

How so?

[SexMachine]

Africa in our midst:

To Understand the Ferguson Riots, Look to Africa - American Renaissance

[Pearsy92]

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Africa in our midst:

http://www.amren.com/news/2014/08/to-understand-the-ferguson-riots-look-to-africa/[/quote]

Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance and the author of White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century.

I think we should take all race baiters and throw them in a big pit. Sharpton too, non segregated pit of cunts.

[SexMachine]

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Africa in our midst:

http://www.amren.com/news/2014/08/to-understand-the-ferguson-riots-look-to-africa/[/quote]

Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance and the author of White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century.

I think we should take all race baiters and throw them in a big pit. Sharpton too, non segregated pit of cunts.[/quote]

Lol. Okay dude. But the question was, how do drug laws constitute “structural racism?”

[Pearsy92]

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Africa in our midst:

http://www.amren.com/news/2014/08/to-understand-the-ferguson-riots-look-to-africa/[/quote]

Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance and the author of White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century.

I think we should take all race baiters and throw them in a big pit. Sharpton too, non segregated pit of cunts.[/quote]

Lol. Okay dude. But the question was, how do drug laws constitute “structural racism?”
[/quote]

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

I also think the fact that black drug offenders are eight times more likely to be imprisoned than whites is somewhat indicative of the problem.

Black drug offenders 'eight times more likely to be jailed than whites'

I tend to agree with Rand Paul on the issue of redemption and racism implicit in the laws but disagree that drugs should be illegal:

I think drugs are a scourge. I think we have maybe gone too far and that marijuana is a problem, Paul said. And yet I also think it is a problem to lock people up for 10 and 15 and 20 years for youthful mistakes.

He noted that three out of four Americans in prison for drug offenses are black and brown when data shows that whites are using drugs just as much as minority groups. â??But the prisons are full of black and brown kids because they do not get a good attorney, they live in poverty, itâ??s easier to arrest them than to go to the suburbs, he said.

If the GOP is going to be the party of family values, Paul said, it should bother Republicans that in 1980 there were 200,000 kids with a dad in prison and now there are two million.

Invoking the Judeo-Christian faith of most conservatives, Paul highlighted the redemption that religious people hold so dear.

Should a 19-year-old kid get a second chance? I think yes, Paul continued. Lets be the party that has compassion, that does not say the behavior is right but says, You know what? When youre done with your time, that you get the right to vote back. Lets be the party that is for extending right to vote back to people who have paid their time, who have reformed their ways.

The enthusiastic applause from the conservative audience suggested they agreed with his position on the issue.

[SexMachine]

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

So the 18th Amendment discriminated against the Irish? Lol. Whatever dude.

[Pearsy92]

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

So the 18th Amendment discriminated against the Irish? Lol. Whatever dude.[/quote]

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol? Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

So the 18th Amendment discriminated against the Irish? Lol. Whatever dude.[/quote]

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol? Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.
[/quote]

disparity <> discrimination

Disparity can happen for a large number of reasons only some of which are actual discrimination.

[SexMachine]

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol?
[/quote]

You really want to get into this? Okay. When you say “eight times more likely to be imprisoned” do you mean that black people who are convicted are eight times more likely to be imprisoned than white people who are convicted for the same offence? Even if you do mean that(please show source) then that has nothing to do with the drug laws themselves - it’s to do with the sentencing.

Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.

Society recognises that some drugs are more harmful than others. Nothing to do with race. In fact, crack was considered more serious due to the enormous harm it was wreaking on the black community in the 80’s.

[Pearsy92]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

So the 18th Amendment discriminated against the Irish? Lol. Whatever dude.[/quote]

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol? Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.
[/quote]

disparity <> discrimination

Disparity can happen for a large number of reasons only some of which are actual discrimination.
[/quote]

Do you think racism might have something to do with the disparity in the amount of black people being pulled over, stopped and searched, sent to prison for the same crimes white people get off with and getting longer sentences than other white people imprisoned etc?

Or is it all other stuff, in your opinion?

[Pearsy92]

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol?
[/quote]

You really want to get into this? Okay. When you say “eight times more likely to be imprisoned” do you mean that black people who are convicted are eight times more likely to be imprisoned than white people who are convicted for the same offence? Even if you do mean that(please show source) then that has nothing to do with the drug laws themselves - it’s to do with the sentencing.

Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.

Society recognises that some drugs are more harmful than others. Nothing to do with race. In fact, crack was considered more serious due to the enormous harm it was wreaking on the black community in the 80’s.
[/quote]

Crack hasn’t had a quarter of the impact cigarettes and alcohol have had on all communities, pretending the dangers of crack which pale in comparison are reasons for the tearing apart of black families, the imprisonment of people for taking and using substances on a voluntary basis seems very pro state and anti freedom. Also hypocritical, unless you think the white kids doing shots also deserve to be sent to prison.

If these laws affected middle class white people there would likely be a huge and loud condemnation of them. Yet white kids from secure families are not usually being sent to gladiator school for selling a bit of coke. A black kid selling a vial of crack (which does not get you higher and is not cheaper than powder gram for gram according to most knowledgable people on the issue, including Rick Ross, Dr Carl Hart).

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

So the 18th Amendment discriminated against the Irish? Lol. Whatever dude.[/quote]

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol? Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.
[/quote]

disparity <> discrimination

Disparity can happen for a large number of reasons only some of which are actual discrimination.
[/quote]

Do you think racism might have something to do with the disparity in the amount of black people being pulled over, stopped and searched, sent to prison for the same crimes white people get off with and getting longer sentences than other white people imprisoned etc?

Or is it all other stuff, in your opinion?[/quote]

There are lots of reasons. Based on what you are claiming, the NBA is racist against white players. If you want to talk discrimination though, you need better evidence. You need at least to attempt to account for many many other factors.

[Pearsy92]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Pearsy92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

I think the laws placing higher penalties for example on crack dealing and crack use, are biased in a way that a black person selling crack in Compton will receive a much longer sentence, often times for lesser amounts of drugs, be it crystal meth and other predominantly white usage/dealing drugs.

So the 18th Amendment discriminated against the Irish? Lol. Whatever dude.[/quote]

You just ignored all the things i stated and compared something moronic to knock down a straw man.

Were Irish people 8 times more likely to be imprisoned for drinking or selling alcohol? Was alcohol more illegal and face harsher penalties than other drugs? The answer is no, thus your comparison is false.
[/quote]

disparity <> discrimination

Disparity can happen for a large number of reasons only some of which are actual discrimination.
[/quote]

Do you think racism might have something to do with the disparity in the amount of black people being pulled over, stopped and searched, sent to prison for the same crimes white people get off with and getting longer sentences than other white people imprisoned etc?

Or is it all other stuff, in your opinion?[/quote]

There are lots of reasons. Based on what you are claiming, the NBA is racist against white players. If you want to talk discrimination though, you need better evidence. You need at least to attempt to account for many many other factors.[/quote]

That is just silly. Getting into the NBA depends on skill, if you are the best being white holds no barriers. Your example is just recognising that more basketball players are black, mine shows that black people face far higher rates of imprisonment for the same crime, these two comparisons are night and day.

If a black guy and a white guy sell drugs and one goes to prison the other gets community service, there is an actual difference in treatment. If this is so overwhelming it becomes a structural problem.