Riley Cooper's Comments

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I Don’t know if he’s an actual racist, but he does’t deserve to have his life ruined over this. Yeah he fucked up and said something stupid don’t give him a free pass but don’t crucify him.[/quote]

See my post. Honestly because he is a football player he will get much less harm over this than a normal person would in the professional sense. Again using me personally as an example, there are an overwhelming amount of homosexuals in my industry, many in extremely high places. If a video of me drunk at a bar pops up with me dropping an anti gay slur and circulates around my industry trade, I am blacklisted pretty much.

I have zero sympathy for him. Hell look what happened to Mel Gibson and those evil Jews.

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Side note, anyone else think this was really stupid considering he plays the MOST VULNERABLE position in the NFL and I can only think of one white starting DB in the league. He needs to be worried more about losing his spleen from a violent hit than his job. [/quote]

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I Don’t know if he’s an actual racist, but he does’t deserve to have his life ruined over this. Yeah he fucked up and said something stupid don’t give him a free pass but don’t crucify him.[/quote]

See my post. Honestly because he is a football player he will get much less harm over this than a normal person would in the professional sense. Again using me personally as an example, there are an overwhelming amount of homosexuals in my industry, many in extremely high places. If a video of me drunk at a bar pops up with me dropping an anti gay slur and circulates around my industry trade, I am blacklisted pretty much.

I have zero sympathy for him. Hell look what happened to Mel Gibson and those evil Jews. [/quote]

I don’t have any sympathy for him either , he’s an idiot for saying what he said and everyone needs to be held accountable for what they say but where does the line get drawn?

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I Don’t know if he’s an actual racist, but he does’t deserve to have his life ruined over this. Yeah he fucked up and said something stupid don’t give him a free pass but don’t crucify him.[/quote]

See my post. Honestly because he is a football player he will get much less harm over this than a normal person would in the professional sense. Again using me personally as an example, there are an overwhelming amount of homosexuals in my industry, many in extremely high places. If a video of me drunk at a bar pops up with me dropping an anti gay slur and circulates around my industry trade, I am blacklisted pretty much.

I have zero sympathy for him. Hell look what happened to Mel Gibson and those evil Jews. [/quote]

I don’t have any sympathy for him either , he’s an idiot for saying what he said and everyone needs to be held accountable for what they say but where does the line get drawn?[/quote]

Wherever his employers and/or future employers draw it, and they have the full right to do so.

Someone once told me your reputation is like your credit score, takes years to build and only a few stupid mistakes to destroy.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I Don’t know if he’s an actual racist, but he does’t deserve to have his life ruined over this. Yeah he fucked up and said something stupid don’t give him a free pass but don’t crucify him.[/quote]

See my post. Honestly because he is a football player he will get much less harm over this than a normal person would in the professional sense. Again using me personally as an example, there are an overwhelming amount of homosexuals in my industry, many in extremely high places. If a video of me drunk at a bar pops up with me dropping an anti gay slur and circulates around my industry trade, I am blacklisted pretty much.

I have zero sympathy for him. Hell look what happened to Mel Gibson and those evil Jews. [/quote]

I don’t have any sympathy for him either , he’s an idiot for saying what he said and everyone needs to be held accountable for what they say but where does the line get drawn?[/quote]

Wherever his employers and/or future employers draw it, and they have the full right to do so.

Someone once told me your reputation is like your credit score, takes years to build and only a few stupid mistakes to destroy. [/quote]

Very true and unfortunate he most likely will lose his job.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

And honestly, the whole country music thing you just shot out there is just really ignorant. I respect that you have your own personal biases (which you actually seemed to be aware of) but if you are aware of them, I wouldn’t then continue with the stupidity of a statement that “country music breeds racism”. Damn that racist Darius Rucker. [/quote]

Yeah, so I’m definitely ‘racist’ but only against one type of people… white-trash/country folks(obviously a majority of country folks are great people, I’m specifically targeting white-trash-country-folks). I cannot stand their whole deal.

However, to address something you said, are you saying that you believe there is absolutely no correlation between racism and country-concerts? Given this incident, you don’t believe there is more racism going on there versus a billy joel concert?

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I Don’t know if he’s an actual racist, but he does’t deserve to have his life ruined over this. Yeah he fucked up and said something stupid don’t give him a free pass but don’t crucify him.[/quote]

See my post. Honestly because he is a football player he will get much less harm over this than a normal person would in the professional sense. Again using me personally as an example, there are an overwhelming amount of homosexuals in my industry, many in extremely high places. If a video of me drunk at a bar pops up with me dropping an anti gay slur and circulates around my industry trade, I am blacklisted pretty much.

I have zero sympathy for him. Hell look what happened to Mel Gibson and those evil Jews. [/quote]

I don’t have any sympathy for him either , he’s an idiot for saying what he said and everyone needs to be held accountable for what they say but where does the line get drawn?[/quote]

Wherever his employers and/or future employers draw it, and they have the full right to do so.

Someone once told me your reputation is like your credit score, takes years to build and only a few stupid mistakes to destroy. [/quote]

Very true and unfortunate he most likely will lose his job.[/quote]

Highly unlikely that Cooper would lose his job with the Eagles over this. They just lost their 1st/2nd receiver to season ending injury, so Cooper actually just received a promotion.

I could see one of the black players calling him out in the locker room, maybe getting into a fight, but I don’t see him losing his job over it. If he does, I would be willing to guess he was expendable to begin with.

If he were smart, he would make a team apology in a meeting, and probably a public apology on camera.

If I were him, I would count on someone giving me a cheap shot from hell in practice.

I think he’s a racist. I think regardless of whether he likes them or not has little respect for his teammates and associated anything negative they do as something the whole race does.

5 years ago I would think it’s stupid for him to lose his job, now maybe not. The NFL has set a clear precedent against acting a fool in public to most of it’s black players, it would be racist not to apply it to all. Funny how shit comes back to bite people in the ass.

It’s a crazy hierarchy of morality in the NFL
Use a racist word- YOU RE OUT!
Rape a chick- keep your job
Kill a soccer mom driving drunk in your car- keep your job
Stab two guys to death with your boys and let your boys take the rap for it- keep your job

[quote]Claudan wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

And honestly, the whole country music thing you just shot out there is just really ignorant. I respect that you have your own personal biases (which you actually seemed to be aware of) but if you are aware of them, I wouldn’t then continue with the stupidity of a statement that “country music breeds racism”. Damn that racist Darius Rucker. [/quote]

Yeah, so I’m definitely ‘racist’ but only against one type of people… white-trash/country folks(obviously a majority of country folks are great people, I’m specifically targeting white-trash-country-folks). I cannot stand their whole deal.

However, to address something you said, are you saying that you believe there is absolutely no correlation between racism and country-concerts? Given this incident, you don’t believe there is more racism going on there versus a billy joel concert?[/quote]

Probably more than Billy Joel, but no worse than most rock concerts. Or Rap concerts when you take it the other way.

[quote]sonnyp wrote:
It’s a crazy hierarchy of morality in the NFL
Use a racist word- YOU RE OUT!
Rape a chick- keep your job
Kill a soccer mom driving drunk in your car- keep your job
Stab two guys to death with your boys and let your boys take the rap for it- keep your job[/quote]

You left dog fighting off your list. His own teammate too.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
I think he’s a racist. I think regardless of whether he likes them or not has little respect for his teammates and associated anything negative they do as something the whole race does.

5 years ago I would think it’s stupid for him to lose his job, now maybe not. The NFL has set a clear precedent against acting a fool in public to most of it’s black players, it would be racist not to apply it to all. Funny how shit comes back to bite people in the ass.[/quote]

But to be fair, the acting a fool in public is warned and warned before any real action is taken. As Sonnyp mentioned, there are plenty of actual criminal things that have been done that were disregarded. Plax and Vick each had to serve time and they are back. Stallworth is another. Jerome Simpson had a shipment of drugs delivered to his house that was tracked by authorities.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Side note, anyone else think this was really stupid considering he plays the MOST VULNERABLE position in the NFL and I can only think of one white starting DB in the league. He needs to be worried more about losing his spleen from a violent hit than his job. [/quote]

Good and relevant points, but I left this one intact based on some of my own observations-

Workplaces can get nasty and people can talk forgiveness but still hold a grudge. I’ve seen people in industrial settings get fucked up very badly by “accident” a good while after some seemingly minor transgression, and others transferred because they create a tangibly bad environment. Essentially they disappear for their own safety.

In a game like football legs get broken. Necks get broken. Its part of the game and seasoned pros know how to play it.

assuming he is a racist from 5 seconds of video…

how do we know the security guard didnt use the term first and cooper was replying using the same words? or did someone else? is everything before and after the utterance of that word by a white person inconsequential?

i have no idea what was going on, but to automatically assume things about him from a short snippet of cell phone video may be a little rash…

He might get a lot of shit from people outside of the League.
He might get a lot of shit from the League itself.
But I’m sure as hell other players are not making shit out of this incident.

Man, this dude has been playing football literally for 20 years. Don’t you think that if he really was that racist he’d have had some bigger problems by now?

Say whatever you want but racists don’t thrive in team sports, especially in football.

Go to 45 seconds.

As long as they start doing the same thing to all people who use racial slurs.

Heck, you can get banned by the NFL for being white and having racist quotes falsely attributed to you. But pay off your rape victims, cover up murders, torture and kill animals while running an illegal gambling operation, shoot yourself with a gun in a club putting people?s lives at risk, est, and all is forgiven.

We have some messed up priorities in this country.

[quote]Claudan wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I Don’t know if he’s an actual racist, but he does’t deserve to have his life ruined over this. Yeah he fucked up and said something stupid don’t give him a free pass but don’t crucify him.[/quote]

See my post. Honestly because he is a football player he will get much less harm over this than a normal person would in the professional sense. Again using me personally as an example, there are an overwhelming amount of homosexuals in my industry, many in extremely high places. If a video of me drunk at a bar pops up with me dropping an anti gay slur and circulates around my industry trade, I am blacklisted pretty much.

I have zero sympathy for him. Hell look what happened to Mel Gibson and those evil Jews. [/quote]

I don’t have any sympathy for him either , he’s an idiot for saying what he said and everyone needs to be held accountable for what they say but where does the line get drawn?[/quote]

Wherever his employers and/or future employers draw it, and they have the full right to do so.

Someone once told me your reputation is like your credit score, takes years to build and only a few stupid mistakes to destroy. [/quote]

Very true and unfortunate he most likely will lose his job.[/quote]

Highly unlikely that Cooper would lose his job with the Eagles over this. They just lost their 1st/2nd receiver to season ending injury, so Cooper actually just received a promotion.
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Cooper is what people refer to as ‘just a guy’ in terms of football talent. Easily replaceable for close to the league minimum salary. And the team’s already deep at the position with mid-level talent. So yes, I expect him to lose his job for this. They can replace him with an equally talented WR who didn’t use a racist slur at a country concert.

OP, your statement that he’s going to potentially lose his career over this is nonsensical. His contract, yes. His career, no. If he’s good enough to play, he’ll get a contract elsewhere. I expect him to land on another roster at some point if he ends up released by the Eagles.

[quote]Melvin Smiley wrote:
I’d be more ashamed of being photographed at a Kenny Chesney concert if I was him[/quote]

this