.50 cal sniper rifles available here. They also have HK parts, old school machine guns like Maxim.
They also carry the Mk 19 grenade launcher. I think the full auto version is around $15,000.
Now, if I could just mount that on my car, ruch hour would be a lot more fun!
Sorry to resurrect old shit, but i am currently in the market for a new toy (again).
I typically subscribe to the “a rifle is a rifle and a pistol is a pistol” ideology. But this is just so neat (in theory) I may have to get one:
I have looked at the 9mm version, but apparently there is a .40 S&W and even a .45 ACP! Anyone have any thoughts / opinions / real world experience? I plan on going to shoot on this weekend.
(Picture above features a possible future hi-cap mag, courtesy of the Beretta site.)
[quote]CEZAR wrote:
Kind of new, but very cool. HK makes the ulitmate M16, the HK416 and there’s talk about a HK417 chamber in 308(7.62x51mm)[/quote]
Wow!
What a beauty.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
Sorry to resurrect old shit, but i am currently in the market for a new toy (again).
I typically subscribe to the “a rifle is a rifle and a pistol is a pistol” ideology. But this is just so neat (in theory) I may have to get one:
I have looked at the 9mm version, but apparently there is a .40 S&W and even a .45 ACP! Anyone have any thoughts / opinions / real world experience? I plan on going to shoot on this weekend.
(Picture above features a possible future hi-cap mag, courtesy of the Beretta site.)[/quote]
I have considered one of these, and the jury is still out. Since they make it in 40, I’d like to see one in 357 SIG. Should just be a barrel change if anybody makes one.
[quote]Celticwolf wrote:
Chewman wrote:
I received this a couple weeks ago. Seems fitting in this thread.
This was sent to me by a Semper Fi, UAL retired, east coast
type.
Hello to all my fellow gunners, military buffs, veterans
and interested guys. A couple of weekends ago I got to
spend time with my son Jordan, who was on his first leave
since returning from Iraq.
Sorry to break it to yall but this is total fiction, written by some gun rag reading Rambo. Talk with the infantry guys coming back, or better yet some of the contractors (most of whom can carry what ever they want), you’ll find the M16 and M4 have steller reputations.
Jordan isn’t real, he’s the figment of some wannabe’s imagination.
[/quote]
I knew it was BS when he mentioned the sniper rifle as the M24. Marines don’t use the M24, thats the Army. Marines use the M-40 A1 and M-40 A2. They look similar but any Soldier or Marine worth his salt will be able to tell the difference.
I know its not a rifle, but it is perfect for home protection and CQB.
Me Solomon Grundy
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=68693
[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
I know its not a rifle, but it is perfect for home protection and CQB.
Me Solomon Grundy
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=68693[/quote]
Asks us to log in. Can you give some details here?
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:
I know its not a rifle, but it is perfect for home protection and CQB.
Me Solomon Grundy
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=68693
Asks us to log in. Can you give some details here?[/quote]
You will probably need to create an account. It is free.
Me Solomon Grundy
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Love the Barrett
[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
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I didn’t check the details, but it looks like the barrel protrudes from the briefcase, and that there is a bar inside the trigger guard, which leads me to believe that this submachinegun can be fired from a totally concealed condition.
If so, then this is a perfect assassin’s or terrorist’s weapon.
The only design flaw that I can identify is that if you have to remove the weapon in a hurry, the configuration forces you to grasp the pistol grip with the left hand, which might be awkward for five-sixths of the population. But then, if you can indeed fire the weapon with the briefcase closed, then this is a moot point.
[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
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The MP5K. I havent fired it in the briefcase configeration, but when fired using the pistol grips it rocks. very little muzzle rise and accurate as hell. Also a helluva a lot of fun!
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
Sorry to resurrect old shit, but i am currently in the market for a new toy (again).
I typically subscribe to the “a rifle is a rifle and a pistol is a pistol” ideology. But this is just so neat (in theory) I may have to get one:
I have looked at the 9mm version, but apparently there is a .40 S&W and even a .45 ACP! Anyone have any thoughts / opinions / real world experience? I plan on going to shoot on this weekend.
(Picture above features a possible future hi-cap mag, courtesy of the Beretta site.)[/quote]
Ruger makes a carbine similar to this. I like Ruger firearms in general. Built like tanks and reliable as hell.
Here’s what H&K has to say about the briefcase for the MP5K:
[quote]Patrick Williams wrote:
Love the Barrett
[/quote]
I would be totally impressed if someone could make a decent standing shot with a Barret.
How much does the thing weigh?
[quote]hedo wrote:
Blood is Metal wrote:
Sorry to resurrect old shit, but i am currently in the market for a new toy (again).
I typically subscribe to the “a rifle is a rifle and a pistol is a pistol” ideology. But this is just so neat (in theory) I may have to get one:
I have looked at the 9mm version, but apparently there is a .40 S&W and even a .45 ACP! Anyone have any thoughts / opinions / real world experience? I plan on going to shoot on this weekend.
(Picture above features a possible future hi-cap mag, courtesy of the Beretta site.)
Ruger makes a carbine similar to this. I like Ruger firearms in general. Built like tanks and reliable as hell.
[/quote]
Actually, this is why I posted this. I prefer Ruger as well (have three now). I didn’t know they had a carbine. Haven;t ever really been a Beretta fan. I’ll check Google and the Ruger site.
Thanks for the info!
[quote]ExNole wrote:
Patrick Williams wrote:
Love the Barrett
I would be totally impressed if someone could make a decent standing shot with a Barret.
How much does the thing weigh?[/quote]
That was the M107 semi-auto, not as accurate as the bolt version. The battalion sniper squad leader (used to be an instructor at the Army school) stated it was a only a 3 minute gun with match ammo, but they were getting better accuracy than that, more like 2 minutes. That there was me firing a hitting an 8 inch target at 100 meters with some new European 50BMG ammo, armor-piercing, exploding-tip, incendiary, tracer stuff called RAUFOSS. Pretty interesting with great effects on targets. Weight is 30ish pounds for the gun.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
Sorry to resurrect old shit, but i am currently in the market for a new toy (again).
I typically subscribe to the “a rifle is a rifle and a pistol is a pistol” ideology. But this is just so neat (in theory) I may have to get one:
I have looked at the 9mm version, but apparently there is a .40 S&W and even a .45 ACP! Anyone have any thoughts / opinions / real world experience? I plan on going to shoot on this weekend.
(Picture above features a possible future hi-cap mag, courtesy of the Beretta site.)[/quote]
I got to fondle one of those in at a gunshop in Utah a couple weekends ago.
It is very light comfortable, they don’t cost much more than a pistol.
I really like pistol caliber carbine.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
Sorry to resurrect old shit, but i am currently in the market for a new toy (again).
I typically subscribe to the “a rifle is a rifle and a pistol is a pistol” ideology. But this is just so neat (in theory) I may have to get one:
I have looked at the 9mm version, but apparently there is a .40 S&W and even a .45 ACP! Anyone have any thoughts / opinions / real world experience? I plan on going to shoot on this weekend.
(Picture above features a possible future hi-cap mag, courtesy of the Beretta site.)[/quote]
Actually, the more I look at that little carbine, the more I think that design might not be a bad contender for Col. Cooper’s “Thumper” project.
Anybody here familiar with it? Well, basically, the Colonel’s contention is that since Army recruits probably aren’t going to be taught how to shoot very well, and aren’t going to be given a serious battle rifle to use anyway, why not give them a more effective, and cost-effective, option.
“Thumper” is a semi-automatic carbine chambered for the .44 magnum AutoMag cartridge, which uses modified .30 brass. Some may question the lack of fully automatic capability, but inasmuch as it should only take one 44 caliber bullet to do what three or four 22 caliber bullets are normally required to do, this seems not to be a problem.
More dead enemies for fewer rounds expended [recruits not pissing away ammo] = cost effectiveness.
Anyway, something like that in 44 AutoMag with ghost ring sights and a 20-round magazine might be just what the colonel ordered.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Actually, the more I look at that little carbine, the more I think that design might not be a bad contender for Col. Cooper’s “Thumper” project.
Anybody here familiar with it? Well, basically, the Colonel’s contention is that since Army recruits probably aren’t going to be taught how to shoot very well, and aren’t going to be given a serious battle rifle to use anyway, why not give them a more effective, and cost-effective, option.
“Thumper” is a semi-automatic carbine chambered for the .44 magnum AutoMag cartridge, which uses modified .30 brass. Some may question the lack of fully automatic capability, but inasmuch as it should only take one 44 caliber bullet to do what three or four 22 caliber bullets are normally required to do, this seems not to be a problem.
More dead enemies for fewer rounds expended [recruits not pissing away ammo] = cost effectiveness.
Anyway, something like that in 44 AutoMag with ghost ring sights and a 20-round magazine might be just what the colonel ordered.
[/quote]
I agree with the colonel. I think a good idea would be to neck up 5.56 brass to .355 ID at the throat, and leave .02 thickness at the neck. That would let you load 9mm bullets into a straight walled case with a muzzle velocity around 2300 fps. This way you can still use M4/M16 lowers, bolts and magazines and have the same mag cap. Or you could make the ID .357 and use 357 bullets. A 9mm bullet at 2300 fps would be a great stopper, even in FMJ, but imagine it in a frangible like MagSafe. I’d make the upper a gas piston instead of gas blowback. Would work well out to about 200m. I see 2 potential problems with it. One is the feeding of a straight walled cartridge into an auto loader, but if it works in pistols and 30 carbine, it should work with this. The other is headspacing off the neck. Forget about burst or full auto. This would kick too much for most combat support types.
Plus, it’s make a nice deer rifle.
