Review My First Cycle Please

Pharma / TRT
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Hi, about to start my first cycle soon.

Age:22
Height: 5 ft 8
Weight: 170lb 20%BF

Cycle:
Week 1-12 500mg Test Enanthate (split 2x a week, though i’d prefer 1x a week pinning)
Week 2-12 250iu HCG 2x a week
Week 1-12 0.5mg Arimidex EOD

PCT:
Week 14-18 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Diet: 3100 cals, 266 carbs, 110 fats, 241g protein. All clean food already planned/sorted and been on diet for a while, no junk.
Also daily multi vitamin, krill oil, green tea extracts.

Hows it looking? Anything I would benefit from adding, dosings okay? Still unsure about the AI during cycle since some people say it’s pointless or too strong, I don’t want to see anything close to gyno and have minimal bloating. And PCT, sufficient? Should recover okay since I’ll have HCG on cycle right?

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looks good to me, just adjust adex depending on sides if any

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besides daily checking for lumps is there anything else major to be looking out for? Whats your recommended protocol if i feel gyno is developing

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I’ve been told on another forum that my PCT is horrible, is it because the guy wants to recommend me his affiliate products or it’s genuinely bad?

"Your PCT is horrid. You will not recover with only a SERM in PCT. You need much more than that. Here is what I recommend

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (-link-)
Liquid Aromasin (-link-)
Test Stack 17 (-link-)
Ostarine 25mg per day (-link-)
"
And also told me this regarding HCG

“HCG should never be used for the duration of a cycle. It should only be used as a kickstart to PCT, otherwise it will become counterproductive when ran too long. Start it after last injection and run it for two weeks up until PCT starts (2 weeks after last pin of test)”

Any opinions?

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[quote]kaizero wrote:
I’ve been told on another forum that my PCT is horrible, is it because the guy wants to recommend me his affiliate products or it’s genuinely bad?

"Your PCT is horrid. You will not recover with only a SERM in PCT. You need much more than that. Here is what I recommend

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (-link-)
Liquid Aromasin (-link-)
Test Stack 17 (-link-)
Ostarine 25mg per day (-link-)
"
And also told me this regarding HCG

“HCG should never be used for the duration of a cycle. It should only be used as a kickstart to PCT, otherwise it will become counterproductive when ran too long. Start it after last injection and run it for two weeks up until PCT starts (2 weeks after last pin of test)”

Any opinions?[/quote]

I don’t know what these are:
“Test Stack 17 (-link-)
Ostarine 25mg per day (-link-)”

However: I would agree that Aromasin would be helpful. It’s been shown to raise free test levels and IGF.

Also, Aromasin is a suicidal AI. When it binds to aromatize enzyme - they can not be used again. Other AI’s will stop the aromatize process, only as long as the drug is in your system. This is not the case with Aromasin. This helps the initial estrogen rebound spikes when coming off AAS and starting PCT.

Aromasin is also compatible with Nolva.

With that being said - Some people like to run herbal/homeopathic supplements to boost natural test during PCT.

From my research hCG has two commonly prescribed dosings.

The first being a few weeks into cycle, as you start to shutdown, you start hCG - 250iu 2x/3x a week. Continue until 3 days prior to PCT.

The second being a higher dose “blast”. I am not too familiar with this route but it seems to 10 days prior to PCT you take 1000iu’s/day to jumpstart.

Just remember, the goal in PCT is to recover to natural, or as close to natural levels as possible.

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Yeah what squige said, you can add the clomid and aromasin if you’d like. As far as the hcg, to be honest I read so much conflicting info in whento run hcg I don’t know what to believe anymore. Although, common sense tells me why would you run it during pct if it shuts you down? But then you have rich piana on YouTube saying to do just that, so yeah I don’t feel comfortable giving out advice on hcg anymore

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Forgot to add, if you feel gyno developing start taking letro until it subsides. And if someone is trying to push their product on you, I would stear clear of that. Most, but not all of the companies on some of these boards are shit so do your research

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Why are you running HCG while on a cycle?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but hgc promotes your body to produce test, which is what you don’t want when you’re on.
When you’re on, you body doesn’t need to produce as much/any because you’re injecting it.
So now you’re giving your body the green light to make test and the red light to make test

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from what I understood you take hcg on cycle to keep your natural test production online, so recovery is meant to be easier when you come to PCT

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BBingCowboy, please keep your stupid, uneducated comments to yourself. HCG is to be used during cycle only. Please dont ever give advice again

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Your cycle looks fine. You could always add in supplements like DAA and Vitamin D etc, during PCT to help promote test production as well. I personally do a clomid/nolva PCT, but most say Nolva only for PCT is fine

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[quote]BBingCowboy wrote:
Why are you running HCG while on a cycle?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but hgc promotes your body to produce test, which is what you don’t want when you’re on.
When you’re on, you body doesn’t need to produce as much/any because you’re injecting it.
So now you’re giving your body the green light to make test and the red light to make test [/quote]

Keeping your own testosterone production during cycle may benefit recovery once the cycle is over since it keeps the testes from atrophying and possibly desensitising to LH/FSH.

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do you think a nolva only pct is enough? a few people have recommended a nolva/clomid/armoasin pct, but i read that clomid has a lot of strong sides hence i wanted to avoid it, stuff to do with vision etc.

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Ive taken clomid on three separate ocassions up to 100mg a day and never had a problem with it. I personally like clomid better than nolvadex, but I do both for PCT.

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[quote]CougarPride wrote:
Ive taken clomid on three separate ocassions up to 100mg a day and never had a problem with it. I personally like clomid better than nolvadex, but I do both for PCT. [/quote]

Interesting… Most seem to do better on Nolvadex. Care to elaborate?

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I just feel like nolvadex kills my sex drive. Im not really sure how to explain it. Clomid just makes me feel better than nolvadex does. Ive never gotten blood work done though to compare the two, so, other than my experience I really have nothing to back this up.