Revenge of the Sith: AngryVader's Log

[quote]pch2 wrote:
PonceDeLeon wrote:
Wow. Are you low in iron?

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Maybe you should get that checked out? I assumed it was a little bruise, but that’s a lot of bleeding there. Do you clot okay usually?[/quote]

Again, I’ve been donating for over 6 years and this has never happened before. She messed up with the needle, so blood seeped into the arm.

This isn’t uncommon. I was given a number to call and they told me that I should expect the bruising to worsen after day one as the blood moves.

From the Red Cross:

"It is very common for a small amount of blood to leak out of the vein used for your donation and into the surrounding tissue. This is not dangerous and does not mean that the vein has been permanently damaged. Depending on the amount of blood that leaks into the tissue, the discolored are can be flat like a typical black-and-blue bruise, or can swell below the skin. The blood can sometimes move up or down the arm, or around to the elbow area.

The bruise are will change colors just like a black-and-blue mark and will take several days to heal."

Shit, I just wanted to share the pics cause I thought it was funny. The swelling has gone down significantly and it really doesn’t even hurt that much anymore. I appreciate the concern and all, but I don’t think this is an indication of a serious problem or vitamin/mineral deficiency.

Man, I HATE when they miss the vein. Goddamn amateurs.

This has happened to me the last few times I have given blood, and every time they make me out to be some baby when I KNOW it should not be burning like that. I try to say something and they’ll laugh it off but they know they are in the wrong.

Nothing worse than when some medical professional can’t admit an error and is trying to save face by making you feel bad.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Man, I HATE when they miss the vein. Goddamn amateurs.

This has happened to me the last few times I have given blood, and every time they make me out to be some baby when I KNOW it should not be burning like that. I try to say something and they’ll laugh it off but they know they are in the wrong.

Nothing worse than when some medical professional can’t admit an error and is trying to save face by making you feel bad.[/quote]

Oh, totally. She tried blaming it on me after. She said I was squeezing the ball too hard so the needle must have moved around. I thought this was funny since I didn’t squeeze the ball AT ALL. In fact, I don’t squeeze the ball in general. I’ve never needed to because it’s never taken me longer than five minutes to donate.

Besides, it hurt just to roll it around in my hand with my fingers, I sure as hell wasn’t going to squeeze it harder.

Two other times, they managed to squirt my own blood on my shirt. Like you said, friggin amateurs.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
This is the bruising today after I got home from work.[/quote]

Oh wow, that looks just like the one I had that I told you about. Looks like it was in the same vein as mine, too. Total bullshit. Those people should be syrupy sweet bending over backwards, and fix shit if you say it doesn’t feel right - especially if you’re a regular.

Wednesday 12/03: Cardio and scap stuff.

Nothing special about today:

20 min on the recumbent bike
SMR (shoulder, upper back, chest, glutes and calves)
Scap pull-up: 12,12
Scap push-up: 15,20
Wall slides: 12,12

The shoulder is starting to feel a lot better now. My bicep is more sore today for some reason. The pain is specific to where the needle was though. I guess that just needs more time.

On another note, I really like the forward and back broomstick exercise. I was only able to it about 20 times last night before it started to burn too much. I did each rep very slowly. Got a huge pump in my traps from doing it.

What is the forward/back broomstick move?

Is that where you hold it out in front of you, parallel to the ground, and raise it above your head, so that you experience external rotation of the shoulder girdle?

I think I saw Tony Gentilcore doing it in a video in one of the articles. I can’t recall.

Good to hear you are recovering.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
What is the forward/back broomstick move?

Is that where you hold it out in front of you, parallel to the ground, and raise it above your head, so that you experience external rotation of the shoulder girdle?

I think I saw Tony Gentilcore doing it in a video in one of the articles. I can’t recall.

Good to hear you are recovering.[/quote]

Yeah, but you bring the broomstick all the way to your back. Here’s a video of some dork doing them. Even though he labeled them as a DC stretch, I believe Dante said to do them much slower than this guy was, so you can really focus on the stretch. Dante says to do this 50 times (forward and back is only one rep), but I can’t do it more than 20-25 times in a row before it starts to burn too much. You’re also supposed to work on bringing the hands in closer as you progress.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Two other times, they managed to squirt my own blood on my shirt. Like you said, friggin amateurs. [/quote]

I haven’t read this whole log yet – haven’t been on here in awhile – but I read the first couple of pages (good work on your injury rehab and good luck with it) before skipping back here for a peek. I have the dubious distinction of having rehabbed lots of injuries, so I can relate. Just commenting because I can relate to your blood donation story: I, too, never squeeze the ball. I’ve never been offered a ball to squeeze. The nurses usually make jokes about how easy my veins are to find and how quickly I fill up the bag. Last one said, “We’ve got a pumper here.”

So, a couple of years ago, there was a blood drive here at school. Went in 40 minutes or so before class – figured that’d be time enough – and the lady who got me must’ve been a total newb. If there is a part of the system that they pressurize, then she over pressurized it*. In any case, she completely fucked up the needle part. Blood didn’t just squirt onto my shirt, It geysered in an arc five feet across, over the cot, onto her uniform, onto the floor… She starts freaking out and making little screaming noises, and making vague gestures around my arm, looking like she’s trying to grab a snake without getting bitten. Two thoughts go through my head quickly. 1)“This is alarming – am I in actual danger here?” 2) “No… I’m okay. That is unless I let this useless bitch touch me again.”

I called a more experienced nurse from across the cafeteria (where the drive was being held) to help out. Actually, what I did was yell across the cafeteria, “Hey! One of you might want to take a look at this here!” A plump, gray-haired, primly efficient woman in an actual nurse’s cap strode quickly over, quickly put the needle right, gave Screamie a quick, dirty look, and said a few sharp things under her breath that – (*)something about the needle and something else about not needing pressure – that shut her up pretty quick. I finished my donation, took an extra OJ and a half dozen cookies, bid the cooing knot of nurses that had gathered around me adieu, and went to class. When I left, there was blood spattered across my cot, the breasts and belly of my attendee’s uniform, several slick feet of floor, the right side of my neck and face. There was blood in my hair, in my mouth (I remember tasting it), and in a darkening, two-inch wide band across the chest and left sleeve of my shirt.

I think they were anxious not to freak out the other donors (I’m pretty sure some girls walked out right after) and not to have me sue them or something. They kept asking if there was anything I needed or if I wanted to lie down. I must’ve been in a mildly amused shock (I was a little light-headed) – next time I’m surrounded by women asking me what I want and trying to get me horizontal I’ll know what to say. At the time, I just told them not to worry about it – that if they had a clean T-shirt I’d take that, but otherwise I had to get to class.

Considered going home, but I’d have missed class and it was an important, once-weekly seminar, so I walked in, 20 minutes late and covered in blood. I tried to take my seat quietly, but everyone stopped talking and stared. “I got in a fight on the way over here,” I said, “but I’m okay. Seriously, you should’ve seen the other guys. I mean, this is mostly their blood.” (Of course, it wouldn’t have been cool if I pretend-fought just one person.) I wanted to keep the class hanging 'til the end, but some people were getting alarmed, so I let 'em off the hook right away.

Sorry… I don’t mean to hijack – I just never heard of the “squirt” thing happening to anyone else. I thought that kind of stuff only happened in movies. It was pretty shocking at the time.

[quote]Feist wrote:
An interesting story about squirting blood…
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hehe…thanks for sharing. No worries about the hijack.

I remember the last time I had blood squirt during a donation, she said it happens mostly with people that work out because we have better veins and the blood tends to pump more forcefully. I think I might have even worked out before I went to donate blood (can’t remember for sure since it was a while ago), so that might have contributed to it.

Glad your shoulder is better. Hope your bruises heal soon.

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Glad your shoulder is better. Hope your bruises heal soon.[/quote]

Thanks! I did another 35 reps of the broomstick thing last night and it continues to get better. I’d have to say that (unlike the Warriors) it’s dramatically improved since Monday. I now feel confident that I’ll be good to go in a week or two.

The bruise, on the other hand, is still pretty nasty. It’s starting to get better, but there’s still a pretty good sore spot where the needle went. It’s pretty hard to contract the bicep or bend the arm fully still. I guess it’s a good thing I don’t front squat with a clean grip, eh. :slight_smile:

Thursday 12/04: Cardio and scap stuff.

15 min on the recumbent bike

Seated Calf Raises: 125 x 20,18,16 Back off set 90 x 26 - No reason I can’t do at least a little bit of calf work.

SMR (shoulder, upper back, chest) - Only a few minutes worth
Forward/back Band stretch - 15,15
Scap pull-up: 15,15
Wall slides: 12,12 - My range of motion was greater on these now.

After I got home:

12 min recumbent bike
SMR for glute and calf
40 forward/back broomstick move

That broomstick video freaked me out a bit. Does your shoulder feel fully stable when you do it?

I think I saw a video of Tony Gentilcore doing it with a power band, which to me makes more sense since it is less rigid, but maybe that takes away from the intended effect of the movement?

I will have to buy a dowel this weekend and try it. I don’t think there’s a Murphy’s Law for dislocating two shoulders at the same time.

40? Looks like you are improving!

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
That broomstick video freaked me out a bit. Does your shoulder feel fully stable when you do it?

I think I saw a video of Tony Gentilcore doing it with a power band, which to me makes more sense since it is less rigid, but maybe that takes away from the intended effect of the movement?

I will have to buy a dowel this weekend and try it. I don’t think there’s a Murphy’s Law for dislocating two shoulders at the same time.

40? Looks like you are improving![/quote]

Yeah, slowly but surely, it’s getting better.

Funny, I talked about this earlier today in the shoulder health thread. I use both, a band and a dowel. The bands are clearly more convenient for the gym. It’s not like I’m going to carry around a broomstick to them gym with me.

You’ll have to start out very wide with the dowel initially. I have a six foot dowel and my hands are now still just barely a foot from the end. I got the dowel at Lowe’s for like $6. I also got one that was thicker than a standard broomstick. I tried a normal sized dowel, but I preferred the thicker one.

The band is good because you can really focus on the stretch in the chest as you’re bringing it overhead. The gotcha with the band is that if you start with too strong of a band, you won’t be able to do it. I tried it with a light band initially and though I was going to dislocate my shoulder. I switched to a mini and that felt right at first, but it quickly becomes easy even as you bring your hands in.

Like you said, your hand position will change throughout the movement with the band and I think while you still get a good stretch, especially in the chest, I feel like it cheats the shoulders a little bit because you can just bring your hands out wider to complete the movement (which is where you get the good chest stretch).

So, with the band you get more of an active stretch in the chest and a little bit in the shoulders. With the dowel you’ll feel the stretch more in just the shoulders.

I’d have to say that my shoulder actually feels better with the dowel. Sure, I sometimes have to work through it a little bit with the first few reps, but once I’ve done a few, I really start to feel it loosen up. The band I actually feel less stable with because the band is trying to pull your hands back in as you’re resisting it and going through the motion at the same time.

Another alternative to the dowel is to use a yoga strap or large towel. They won’t give like a band does during the movement. In fact, I just realized I have an extra yoga strap laying around that I’m going to throw in my gym back from now on.

That’s my experience with it so far…

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I will have to buy a dowel this weekend and try it. I don’t think there’s a Murphy’s Law for dislocating two shoulders at the same time.
[/quote]

“Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.”

“Nature is a mother.”

“If you fool around with anything for very long, you will screw it up.”

“If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway.”

“If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.”

“If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don’t know what the hell is going on.”

I like using the bands for the stretch, but perhaps I’ve been holding my hands too closely for the stick. I LOVE the stretch in the pecs from the bands.

Of course, if I try this tonight, it means I will end up in the ER.

Friday 12/05: Cardio and scap stuff.

15 min on the recumbent bike

SMR for everything! Did a good 30 min worth.

Scap pull-up: 12,12,12 - focused more on the muscles this time.
Scap push-up: 20,20,20
Band pull-aparts: Light band x 20,20,20
Forward/Band band move: Light Band x 10,10,10

It’s getting there. I can still hear a bit of a pop in the shoulder when I do external rotation or when I do a push-up, but it at least doesn’t hurt to do these things anymore.

Also, I think I might have pulled my right quad or something. I occasionally am getting this weird pulling sensation just below the teardrop by the knee. Almost like it’s under the muscle.

It hurts for a second and then it goes away. I’ll massage the area and then it feels fine. It seems to hurt when I make a weird move with the leg, like I drag the foot, but not necessarily when just walking around or going up or down stairs or extending the leg like in a kicking motion.

Really weird. Guess I need to keep an eye on that and rest it a bit.

Saturday 12/06: Cardio, scap stuff, and calves

17 min on the recumbent bike. Why 17 minutes? Cause the chapter in the book I was reading was longer than normal. :stuck_out_tongue:

SMR for calves and shoulder.
Scap pull-up: 15,15
Wall slides: 12,12
Scap push-up: 15,15
Band pull-aparts: Light band x 15,15
Forward/Band band move: Light Band x 10,10

Leg Press Calf Raise: 360 x 6,6,6,6,6,6, 410 x 6,6 - 2 second hold at the bottom and the top.

Seated Calf Raise: 90 x 10/5/5/,10/5/6,10/5/5

How is the quad?

[quote]Flow wrote:
How is the quad?[/quote]

It’s weird. It didn’t bother me at all yesterday. I did the cardio, calves and then I tried a few light sets of pin front squats just to see how they feel. It didn’t bother me at all.

Today, I wake up and go downstairs to get the paper. I’m side stepping by my car in the garage and I feel the pull again. Not bad, but I can just tell it was still there. It’s not really painful, it’s just lingering.

On another note, even the light pin front squats felt interesting (in a good way). I’m looking forward to doing these for real and putting some actual weight on there.

The Warriors are going down tonight!!! Go Thunder!!! THE WARRIORS BETTER BE READY FOR THE PAIN TRAIN!!! CHOO CHOO!!!

Hope the quad and the shoulder are doing better. Also, where did you get your bands from?