Reporting Illegal Immigrants

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]tuchavito wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

My family weren’t pussies, because they did come here legally. They didn’t take the easy road, the way a real pussy would.[/quote]

Hey man i get what you’re saying, but do you have an idea of how hard it is to get a VISA so you can go to US legally?? for normal people it is a complex process and 80% of the time they are rejected.

Now imagine how poor people do, they don’t even have a job so they don’t have a bank account record( wich i think is the most important requeriment), so it is imposible to them to do it the legal way and of course goverment doesn’t help a lot.

I just hope that atleast people who do it the illegal way are trying to get their citizenship ASAP.[/quote]
Awww is it “too hard”?

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[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Drew - why are you sticking up for people “who are clearly not like you or your family?” You said your family came over legally, so why are you even bitching? Do you have family who is illegal, waiting for the amnesty that will never happen?

Why do your people perpetuate this cultural divide like no other culture? We have a shit ton of Latino groups and organizations, do you see such things from Germans, Irish, Italians, Russians, or anyone else for that matter? It is your people who have drawn a line in the sand, so fuck it, they deserve all that they get. [/quote]
Because I have seen good people come over illegally. And there are people who come over illegally with good intentions. People acts as if citizenship is super easy to get it isn’t. If faced with crossing a border for a better life in a desperate situation because you wanted you and your kids to live a better life and you didn’t have the time or money to come over legally, what would you do? You’re a pussy or liar if you say you wouldn’t do the same things these people do.[/quote]

Having good intentions is one thing, having good actions is another. When you steal someone’s identity with fake Social Security numbers, you basically fuck their life up. Do these people “with good intentions” care about that? Do they care that they cause hospitals to shut down because they drain the funding due to ER visits from illegals? 40% of hospitals near the border are filled with illegals, 40%, which is not reimbursed by the government. So do they get the money back? They raise my taxes. Fuck that.

My family weren’t pussies, because they did come here legally. They didn’t take the easy road, the way a real pussy would.[/quote]
Damn you had to help people bummer dude.[/quote]

First of all, there is a difference between voluntarily giving to charity and involuntarily being robbed.

Second of all, we are not the world’s “charity” (I use that loosely as there is nothing charitable about having your country raped).

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According to your logic white people raped the land from Native Americans but they conquered the U.S. so it’s ok?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

Their other choice is to respect what is essentially international law, and stay home.

And if they choose not to, they (and the bleeding hearts) have no business complaining about deportation or how they are treated.

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Yeah deportation is a risk they know can come out of the blue.

So i can treat you like shit just because you download songs? i mean it’s a minor offense, but you are still a criminal.

Treat like shit people that is shit, not people you are just supposing is shit

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[quote]drewh wrote:
According to your logic white people raped the land from Native Americans but they conquered the U.S. so it’s ok?[/quote]

Go back in time and yell at those white people Drew, I don’t know what to tell you. It is the nature of war, the same way tribes conquered and raped other tribes, but I guess in your mind that seems to be. Only Natives can kill and conquer Natives!..?

Feel any better? Why aren’t you bitching about how all the drug cartels are killing innocent people? Boiling people in acid and beheading people, why doesn’t your heart bleed for them?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]tuchavito wrote:

Hey man i get what you’re saying, but do you have an idea of how hard it is to get a VISA so you can go to US legally?? for normal people it is a complex process and 80% of the time they are rejected.

Now imagine how poor people do, they don’t even have a job so they don’t have a bank account record( wich i think is the most important requeriment), so it is imposible to them to do it the legal way and of course goverment doesn’t help a lot.

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What you don’t seem to “get” is that not everyone CAN or SHOULD BE ABLE to live in the US.

That’s just the reality of limited resources and other real-world considerations.

Your note implies that since it’s “hard,” there’s no option but to enter illegally. Wrong!

Their other choice is to respect what is essentially international law, and stay home.

And if they choose not to, they (and the bleeding hearts) have no business complaining about deportation or how they are treated.

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If they stayed home we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

If it is too hard to enter legally, then don’t come. Stop trying to justify a crime because its their “only” option(which it isn’t).

For example, if someone was having a hard time getting some pussy legally, would they be justified in raping a girl? Its a crime just like illegal immigration. And in both cases, someone is getting raped. Bad analogy…but those with a brain can see what I’m saying.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
According to your logic white people raped the land from Native Americans but they conquered the U.S. so it’s ok?[/quote]

Go back in time and yell at those white people Drew, I don’t know what to tell you. It is the nature of war, the same way tribes conquered and raped other tribes, but I guess in your mind that seems to be. Only Natives can kill and conquer Natives!..?

Feel any better? Why aren’t you bitching about how all the drug cartels are killing innocent people? Boiling people in acid and beheading people, why doesn’t your heart bleed for them?[/quote]
My bad I forgot the majority of immigrants are drug cartels, stfu.

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[quote]bluefingas wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]tuchavito wrote:

Hey man i get what you’re saying, but do you have an idea of how hard it is to get a VISA so you can go to US legally?? for normal people it is a complex process and 80% of the time they are rejected.

Now imagine how poor people do, they don’t even have a job so they don’t have a bank account record( wich i think is the most important requeriment), so it is imposible to them to do it the legal way and of course goverment doesn’t help a lot.

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What you don’t seem to “get” is that not everyone CAN or SHOULD BE ABLE to live in the US.

That’s just the reality of limited resources and other real-world considerations.

Your note implies that since it’s “hard,” there’s no option but to enter illegally. Wrong!

Their other choice is to respect what is essentially international law, and stay home.

And if they choose not to, they (and the bleeding hearts) have no business complaining about deportation or how they are treated.

[/quote]
If they stayed home we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

If it is too hard to enter legally, then don’t come. Stop trying to justify a crime because its their “only” option(which it isn’t).

For example, if someone was having a hard time getting some pussy legally, would they be justified in raping a girl? Its a crime just like illegal immigration. And in both cases, someone is getting raped. Bad analogy…but those with a brain can see what I’m saying.

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Pussy? Try something like food and then yes you would steal.

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[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
According to your logic white people raped the land from Native Americans but they conquered the U.S. so it’s ok?[/quote]

Go back in time and yell at those white people Drew, I don’t know what to tell you. It is the nature of war, the same way tribes conquered and raped other tribes, but I guess in your mind that seems to be. Only Natives can kill and conquer Natives!..?

Feel any better? Why aren’t you bitching about how all the drug cartels are killing innocent people? Boiling people in acid and beheading people, why doesn’t your heart bleed for them?[/quote]
My bad I forgot the majority of immigrants are drug cartels, stfu.[/quote]

Do you not see that the drug cartels are one of the main reasons why Mexico can’t get on it’s feet. Along with a corrupt government. Why not create a mob or militia, run them out of town. Thats what happened where I came from. The people got tired of the government’s lack of action, they took to the streets, and ran them the fuck out of Dodge.

Have you even been to Mexico ever?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]tuchavito wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Their other choice is to respect what is essentially international law, and stay home.

And if they choose not to, they (and the bleeding hearts) have no business complaining about deportation or how they are treated.

[/quote]
Yeah deportation is a risk they know can come out of the blue.

So i can treat you like shit just because you download songs? i mean it’s a minor offense, but you are still a criminal.

Treat like shit people that is shit, not people you are just supposing is shit

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Ah, so illegaly entering another sovereign country is the equivalent of downlowding songs?

If that’s your perspective, you have all the objectivity of a child pouting because he didn’t get his favorite toy at Christmas. It’s also a perspective that the international community does NOT share.

With a home, it’s called “breaking and entering.” Shall we be sure that THOSE criminals are “nice people” and then treat them “nicely?” Let them stay, so long as they don’t commit any (other) crimes? And, of course, their eating our food (read “using our health, education, and welfare systems”) isn’t “really” a crime, now is it?

Let me spell it out for you: Each country’s citizens / society in a democracy get to determine what appropriate punishment is, not foreigners like you. Once you enter our “house,” illegally, you have no right to bitch about how you get treated.

The irony here is that YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT and society is much more severe in its treatment of illegal aliens. Yet, somehow you and all your amigos aren’t out in the streets of Mexico City protesting THAT.

All those poor, poor people trying to come in from your south… Show some damned compassion, Mexico!

BTW, as far as I can tell, “shit” is about the farthest thing from what your illegal countrymen get treated like in the US.

But acting like “shit” doesn’t seem to be such a problem for them, since US citizens find it necessary to frequently complain about them, and suffer from higher taxes, identity theft, higher insurance costs, gang problems, and on and on because of them.

Once again, I ask: You’re a relatively well-off Mexican. What are YOU giving up to help your countrymen? Because, frankly, it seems to me that the average American citizen is giving up a hell of a lot more than people like you.

What a fucking world it’s become: People DEFENDING illegal entry into another sovereign country.

Sheesh.

We, America, needs to STOP worrying about what people like you think, and strengthen and enforce our own laws.[/quote]

No i’m not comparing entering aillegaly a country with downloading songs, it is just tha as you call them criminals because of that i guess it would be right to call a criminal who ever download a song illegaly.

I’m not encouraging entering another country illegaly, it is against the law and breaking it carries its consecuences, but deep inside nobody will care ever about consecuences before thinking about his/her family.

People will do whatever it takes to defend the family, even killing a person if it is necesary, so enforce your laws, trea them even worse, whatever, that won’t stop people because they are trying to survive and i’m sure many guys would die before giving up in trying to give a “human life” to their family.

I’m not encouraging it, but people doesn’t care, they just want to survive, legally or ilegally.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Do you not see that the drug cartels are one of the main reasons why Mexico can’t get on it’s feet. Along with a corrupt government. Why not create a mob or militia, run them out of town. Thats what happened where I came from. The people got tired of the government’s lack of action, they took to the streets, and ran them the fuck out of Dodge.

Have you even been to Mexico ever? [/quote]

True, and unfortunately sometimes cartels control the gov, many police members giving out info they shouldn’t, many mayors prefer not to say anything because they don’t want to get killed, nobody wants to turn on them because if they get caught it is sure their family will die.

People in the gov earning ridiculous quiantity of money in a year, moeny that would take around a 8 years for a normal person to earn it.

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