Oh yes. If any proof is needed of Dunning Kruger, one can just spend a bit of time in the pharma section. Sometimes you just can’t convince someone that taking 1 mg of adex a day while on a half gram of test is a bad idea. No amount of evidence can change their minds.
Yep, but I can’t spell worth a shit. Grammar is pretty terrible too.
To me, some can’t do the school work to be an engineer, but many are capable, but they just are not that interested in the subject matter. That is where I was with computer programming. I could get it, but thought it was really boring shit, so I struggled with it.
Many hard driven men play this game I’ve noticed. Heaven forbid you point out a their talent while also recognizing the work put forth.
Or (gasp), point out a peculiar position they had in the first place that allows them to build on their talent. They often act as if you overlook their dedication, sacrifice, and work done and as if success came easy even if you point that all out.
I’m not saying that. i acknowledged that I’m not stupid. And I’m not some super rich mnc CEO. One of my partners went direct from bachelors to phd while working as an associate professor in Australia and another is an above average business developement manager and saleman. It’s not like I did this shit myself.
I also know the pittfalls when you tell people who score low grades that they’re stupid or less intelligence since I’ve seen highly intelligent people with obvious adhd just give up and become gangsters or work in manual labor/ There was no such thing as ADHD where I lived. If these kids were medicated, we may have had more geniuses around to prop up the economy now. Instead, some just ended up in jailf and fucked their lives up because of the lack of opportunity.
Of course not. HOWEVER, from my eperience with the British system of ‘A’ levels, you can be average but be willing to REALLY study your ass off to get excellent grades. People would buy pirated 10 year series(quesitons and answers for previous exams) and books and shit and MEMORIZE them. This doesn’t mean ALL Caltech students did this, just saying SOME did and are studying a couse which doesn not require higher intelligence.
Lots of Uni dudes I know in the Arts or even BusinessCommerce courses are telling me Uni is MUCH EASIER than A levels.
And, again, if one were really STUPID, of couse he wouldn’t be able to do any of this.
And, again, forgive my bluntness, but given how you’re described yourself as the “sensitive type”, I hightly suspect you would have become a heroin addict if you were brought up the same way as ME in the smae environment.
I thought long and hard since yesterday while rereading your posts before stating this, but felt I had to even at the risk of potentially offending you. Please forgive me for being so blunt. I REALLY don’t mean any offence, just speaking from experience. You really fit the profile for the kind of guys I knew who eventually went on drugs.
But you didn’t becaus you didn’t grow up in my environment, nor did you go through my upbringing. It’s what I’m trying to say. You probably have been tempted but you rejected it but you wouldn’t if you lived where I lived interms of porbability.
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If I had that IQ level, I would have been put in the gitted class in primary school since they tested ALL students in primary 3 or 4, can’t remember over here but it wasn’t compulsay attendance. Can’t even remember my results but it was definitely under 110 cos I only remember one ‘1’.
That’s lower or equal to the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews so YOU most likely have a higher IQ than me.
Some parents didn’t even allow their kids to take the test out of fear of embarrassment if they got bad results.
" Psychometrics research has found that Ashkenazi Jews have the highest mean score of any ethnic group on standardized tests of general intelligence , with estimates ranging from 7 to 17 points above the mean IQ of the general white population at 100."
My IQ was higher than 115 (had it legitimately tested a while back). ‘Twas in the 120s, I don’t believe IQ alone is an indicative factor for academic achievement/success, rather perhaps it quantifies as a measure for generalised intellect. One can have poor spatial reasoning, but excel in verbal fluency. How does this reflect on an IQ test? It isn’t to say the individual isn’t smart, rather different fields of intelligence exist.
It’s a possibility. I’m part Ashkenazi, part Sephardic. And I certainly took up a field that doesn’t challenge this possibly high IQ.
Obviously you’re missing some info. I was extremely vulnerable because of depression as a teen and there were plenty of drugs available around me. All I ever did was smoke some pot on a few occasions. Said no to all except one hit of K once. Never tried a thing again.
I gotta say though, your post was surprising. You said you read my posts, which are pretty much all variations on the same themes: “I don’t want vice, addiction, licentiousness, social pathologies, and various trash around me or my children. I’ve seen what they do, and I don’t like it.
I want my kids to be winners. I’ve seen what high investment parenting does for winners. My parents certainly didn’t recognize or maybe even care about my strengths and there was plenty of dysfunction and disappointment and I don’t want that shit for my kids.
I’ve seen the pattens of winners and the patterns of those who do not care.”
Then you pop up and say “I think you could’ve been a drug addict.” Though not inducted, that was surprising particularly after I repeatedly expressed, “you’re smart and successful.” Did you not think I was gonna think, “Huh?!”
Yeah, I’ve been here a long time. I even vaguely remember your educational background. This is how long I’ve been here lol
The reason why I said what I said was you fit the exact profile of friends I knew who went into drugs IN THEIR TEENS.
High intelligence
Prone to depression
Prone to excessivee thinking
High emphathy
Interested in intellectual shit
Other shit I can’t recall at the back of my mind
Like intellectual discourse
The thing is where I grew up, NONE of these would be been afforded to you. There was simply no opportunity and pure hopelessness for any form of advancement or higher education there unless you had money. That’s why I left the COUNTRY.
And heroin is not weed or anything similar. It’s a monster, dude.
There was a recent study published in the journal of political psychology looking at substance behind harboured ideologies present within traditionally conservative/traditionally progressive individuals. They found conservatives tend to view anecdote as being equally valid in comparison backed science, thus perhaps debating the logic behind science that has already more or less been settled. This can encompass all realms of published literature, pharmacological, socialpolitical, sociocultural data available at to what dictates a better/worse outcome for a demographic.
This statement
Fully encompasses the conclusion this paper came to. Anecdote can have merit, but one can’t put all eggs in the basket of “I’ve seen this throughout the small portion of people I’ve known, therefore this is how it is”.
I don’t wish to sound insulting, but many of your conveyed ideologies within regards to creating the optimal environment to raise a child, how you believe secular society ought to be altered to that of a theocracy, how X,Y and Z is steeped in degeneracy, how homosexuality will impede the ability for you to raise a child etc appears to be steeped within hysterical over-reaction mediated through anecdote/belief that isn’t backed through rigorous bodies of scientific data. It appears you see certain elements of society of which are for the most part admittedly unsuitable for child exposure and as a result you fall further towards one extreme “this is degeneracy, this need not exist…”
It should be noted the comment about homosexuality hasn’t been stated word for word, rather subtly yet distinctly implied as you are unable to publically convey certain opinions given your account + identity is linked.
This is my interpretation.
I’ve seen consequence associated with vice, however based upon the literature/data I’ve read I’m not going to advocate for a net ban on gambling.
These societal constructs aren’t going to disappear, you need to find a way to navigate around them as to minimise harm potentially incurred towards yourself/your offspring.
BTW, I estimate for the past three years, looking back, after realizing what I believed to be was a shortchanging and losing out on my time and untapped ability and strengths (and possibly high IQ), few days go by in which I don’t have disappointment in myself and others , regret, and/or a sadness. No one around me knows because they’re passing thoughts in the morning or night time. I’m not saying this for sympathy, at all. I’m simply expressing what makes me tick. It’s actually related to the thread topic and how I arrived at my beliefs, religion included.
I mean, of course, there were a couple of dumbasses but these guys wouldn’t just go for opiates for escapism. They’d experiment with all kinds of shit for fun before tinally getting hooked on heroin.
I’ll post a story of one guy I knew who was hooked on meth from the Drug War thread. It’s both sad and hilarious at the sam time.
“Chasing the dragon” is where people burn heroin powder on tin foil and use a straw to inhale the vapors". I don’t know what opiate he was using since you can apparently do it with oxy too.
This took place in my current country. He was relatively rich.
