In the sense of polygamy while in a relationship/marriage, yes - this is very destructive to society. If not in a relationship though, I don’t really see that it’s a big deal, but each to their own.
In scope of the Mormon religion, though, it has been poised that polygamy within the religion was considered acceptable due to the time period it was popularized. In the early/mid 1800’s, a lot of settlers (many of whom were Mormon) were traveling across the country - and many men died. This created a population issue where 2 or 3 adult women were present for every 1 adult male; keeping child-bearing and related activities within the construct of marriage was still very prevalent, so the practice of polygamy with wives was born.
It’s a fairly, umm, ‘smart’, way of skirting religion and societal norms without technically violating either. I don’t see that this practice has any present use or application though. Still, I suppose this is far less damaging for society than deadbeat/non-existent fathers.
You might say “At least they have families. At least there is a religious reason behind it”
1- not all religion/religious sects are “good”. There are plenty of cultures founded on religious law that suck because their interpretation of the scripture differs to that of contemporary, mainstream interpretations. It should be noted my definition of mainstream here is relatively broad.
When we refer to crossing this boundary of “acceptable religious practices” we are referring to the likes of the Westboro baptist Church, the Taliban, the Ku Klux Klan, ISIS, the lords resistance army etc.
2- yes, they have families… multiple families… it’s nota dynamic conducive to optimal outcomes. I happen to know of a girl who was raised within a dynamic like this… she has all sorts of views that I vehemently oppose… however the almost absent dad thing really seemed to screw her up.
Hard to be there when you’ve got five or six families you need to take care of… and (based off of what I saw/know) it’s easy to bolt if you don’t like one of them
Perhaps this doesn’t fit in with what the scripture says, but this happens.
3- Let’s also take into account within this construct you’ll find multiple women will flock to the most desired men. So you’ll have 90% of the women married to what… 20% of men? Not to say there won’t be exceptions… I’m sure the odd gal will fall in love with a really sweet guy who is less attractive than she is (or in other words she can do better), but for the most part nah… most women are gonna opt to go for men of high status, when they run out they’ll look for men who are one step below.
But there’s only a finite number of men and women, and if the ratio getting married off is say… 4/1 (four women to one man)… what happens to men who are downright average? Do they need to kill the guys at the top?
If the dynamic was the other way round and for whatever reason religious scripture says “you can have multiple husbands” I THINK you’d probably see a similar dynamic eventuate, except the men would flock to the most desirable women.
However due to the way men and women are hard-wired (primitive drive, physical features etc) I can’t really see this dynamic unfolding unless we come across a species of women that are super strong like the Amazon women from the wonder women comics.
You’ve agreed polygamy doesn’t work, however the caveat that makes it slightly more acceptable = religious and familial reasons
But what if they come from a culture that isn’t conducive towards societal prosperity? What if the familial dynamic associated with polygamy flat out doesn’t work (90% of the time)?
To put it on record btw I don’t think “pumping and dumping” is remotely acceptable either. However you do have the odd scenario wherein two single partners are okay with a quick fling. While I might not personally be a fan of this (there’s no emotional connection… just lust) I don’t find it morally repugnant in the way I find characters like Barney Stintson from HIMYM off-putting (but hilarious).
If you don’t know who Barney Stintson is … take a look..
Though the show makes sure the audience takes note that this character is despicable… he reforms his ways towards the end
My loathing for it is because it is dysfunctional and harms society. You got that already.
I’ve already covered this numerous times.
I’ve already covered this numerous times.
I’ve already commented on polyandry.
Familial. I’d take that over a jungle-like free for all as we have. You once again didn’t take into account context of what I wrote and the hypocrisy I spoke of.
So? I was referring to religious practices outside of the mainstream agenda. When you cross that boundary you can ONLY refer to extremes.
Haredi Judaism or ultra conservative Catholicism might not be commonplace, but there isn’t a whole lot of widespread condemnation over Catholicism or orthodox Judaism in the USA.
Mainstream Islam doesn’t typically practice polygamy because doing so is illegal in most societies. Though interestingly enough, it can and is still occasionally practiced within countries like Australia or America
What happens is one marriage will be licensed by the state and subsequent marriages will be licensed by a mosque.
Likely because conservatively Catholic and Jewish people aren’t commonly known as terrorists. I can only think of one Catholic terrorist here. Do you know of any?
1- polygamy is generally related to religious beliefs. However secular Islam generally doesn’t practice polygamy. Perhaps these people exist… the only people who advocate for polygamy who I know are those within borderline radicalised Islamic communities that are constantly under police surveillance (raids conducted frequently, mosques shut down for promoting extremism/political violence).
2- I did notice the hypocrisy. Many people are saying "you can’t have multiple wives! That’s icky! But some of the same people are okay with an individual going from side chick A to side chick B and C on the same day.
Yes… it’s still icky… and it’s comparable. However someone say… having a one night stand one week and having another one two weeks later is different because they aren’t having sex with multiple people are the same time.
Why is there an increased prevalence of Islamic terrorism relative to other religions?
There are more conservative/ultra conservatism Muslims out there… however the US has many conservative Catholics, evangelical Christians, ultra orthodox Jews
Yet it’s very rare you see them carry out religiously or politically motivated violence.
Is there something about Islam in particular that makes it incompatible within a diverse society (Islamic terrorism exists within non secular societies too).
You can look into the prevalence of extremist views or views sympathetic towards extremism within Islamic communities. The results are quite shocking
It should also be noted TODAY it isn’t entirely uncommon for women to sleep around too. There are some girls who will go from guy A to guy B and C within the span of one or a few days
On dating apps like tinder you can go around and select only the most attractive guys to screw around with. It’s not hard
I’ve seen unattractive women on tinder manage to rack up an enormous amount of matches whereas unattractive men will get almost zero. If a woman wants to have sex quickly, the likes of tinder can eventuate this outcome
I even know a girl who lost her virginity on tinder (awful person… but not the point)
I can also get on tinder and rack up quite a few matches quickly (I’ve tried out of curiosity to see where I stand, but i’ve never gone through with anything). If I wanted to (as I’m overseas) I could probably be screwing around.
There are reasons but you’ll have to seek them out yourself. I know them but they cannot be discussed here and I will no longer engage in such reasoning only for people to simply be close minded and respond, “that’s not right,” “that’s not what it is,” “I think it’s…” or any other response used when reality makes people feel uncomfortable.
There’s this odd movement amongst the left wing of the political spectrum that is uniquely pro Islam.
I’ve never understood it, and it goes back to the Islamic cultural revolution. In the 70’s, most left wing groups were advocating for the overthrow of the monarchy that ran Iran at the time
They didn’t take into account the alternate leader wasn’t liberal… not in the slightest. The alternate leader had views that were diametrically opposed relative to what left wing political factions believed in now and back then
Yet this pro islamic push is still very much omnipresent … and it baffles me
If you’re a woke warrior that wants men who identify as women to compete in women’s sports… how on earth could you be pro Hezbollah? Or pro Hamas … or pro Iran…
Sure, many people were taught that it was literal, and factual. I was taught that as a child. It still begs the question of how do we determine what is allegorical and what is literal?
