Regressive Ketogenic Cycle

Diet and Nutrition
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A couple of questions that Ive been struggling to get answered for ages now on this diet outlined by Thibs in his article: http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/mondays_with_thibs_the_five_elements_of_program_dominance

I have emailed Thibs himself but Im not sure Ill even get an answer plus it would be nice to hear some different angles on this:

  1. Whats the training like on this diet? Low volume, high load work? What about energy systems work? Metabolic pairings etc.?

  2. How do the different training sessions pair up with the different type of days? Would the week structure change as the daily diet types changed? e.g. pairing up resistance training with higher carb days and the such.

  3. When it says return to normal eating - im assuming a transitional period is required first as opposed to hitting maintenance right away?

  4. Has ANYONE actually tried this diet successfully? If so what were the results like?

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Bump because Im kinda time pressured to get this plan drawn up and order in supplements!

Does anyone even have any input into the type of training that would work with a generic low calorie keto diet - it looks like ill be working at about 2000 calories down from my 3250 maintenance on this diet with trace carbs?

My initial thoughts were heavy lifting, low volume and continusing with the two judo sessions a week I do as a form of energy systems work:

Monday - Upper Push dominant
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Judo
Thursday - Lower
Friday - Upper pull dominant
Saturday - Judo
Sunday - Rest

Also any information or personal experience on ths Regressive Ketogenic Cycle would be really welcome!

This is the last time Im going to bump this thread - I don’t want to piss anyone off. My questions in original post still stand also.

Thank you!

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I think this diet would work well if you aren’t already used to a low-carb diet. It’s something I would like to try, but I’ve been on the AD for six months now, so my body is used to a low-carb intake.

As far as training is concerned, you’re best bet is probably the Metabolic Pairings. I think a good plan would be to do the Pairings 2-3 times a week, and do heavy lifting 1-2 times a week to maintain strength and muscle. It probably doesn’t matter much when you do what type of workout on whichever type of day you’re on. You could probably just do whichever workout you have the energy for.

Bear in mind, I haven’t done either the diet or the training I mentioned, but I’ve read a lot of Thib’s articles, and it seems to be a pretty good approach.

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[quote]eggers wrote:
I think this diet would work well if you aren’t already used to a low-carb diet. It’s something I would like to try, but I’ve been on the AD for six months now, so my body is used to a low-carb intake.

As far as training is concerned, you’re best bet is probably the Metabolic Pairings. I think a good plan would be to do the Pairings 2-3 times a week, and do heavy lifting 1-2 times a week to maintain strength and muscle.

It probably doesn’t matter much when you do what type of workout on whichever type of day you’re on. You could probably just do whichever workout you have the energy for.

Bear in mind, I haven’t done either the diet or the training I mentioned, but I’ve read a lot of Thib’s articles, and it seems to be a pretty good approach. [/quote]

Thank you for your reply!

Aye this was my initial thinking - do a setup that thibs planned fro that older client:

2 upper body sessions and 2 metabolic sessions… no lower lifting due to metabolic systems being lower dominant.

I guess I could do some ultra low volume but high intensity squats and deads? shrugs

What about keeping judo in there?