religion of peace…
[quote]Aggv wrote:
religion of peace… [/quote]
Have you been to Uganda lately? Whole lot of Christians trying to implement the death penalty for homosexuality, plenty of them burning “sorcerers” for practising pagan religions.
But i guess because they are black Africans they don’t count it is all their culture, not Christianity. But in the muslim world that has nothing to do with poverty or culture, all the problems there are Islam.
You are a complete hack.
Also, no Abrahamic religion is one of peace. They all celebrate moses as a prophet, a person who committed genocide against the Midanites. How can you be peaceful and support and condone gods sanctioned genocide by one of your holiest prophets?
With exception to Jainism and some other minority faiths, no religions generally are peaceful in any real sense.
not sure what africa has to do with ME muslim nations turning their backs on muslims, but i guess im the hack…
[quote]Aggv wrote:
not sure what africa has to do with ME muslim nations turning their backs on muslims, but i guess im the hack… [/quote]
Most Muslims from relatively secular places like Syria don’t want to go to countries like Saudi Arabia that have religious theocracy. They don’t want to go there, they want to live in democracies. Apparently, to you, this is proof muslims are somehow in the wrong again.
[quote]DBADNB1 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
not sure what africa has to do with ME muslim nations turning their backs on muslims, but i guess im the hack… [/quote]
Most Muslims from relatively secular places like Syria don’t want to go to countries like Saudi Arabia that have religious theocracy. They don’t want to go there, they want to live in democracies. Apparently, to you, this is proof muslims are somehow in the wrong again.[/quote]
so why are those muslims nations not welcoming other muslims? who cares what the refugees want. Yes, it is wrong that the refugees are not welcome in these nations.
Good job putting words in my mouth, and bringing up something completely irrelevant to the situation to show your disdain for other religions. I’m the hack tho
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]DBADNB1 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
not sure what africa has to do with ME muslim nations turning their backs on muslims, but i guess im the hack… [/quote]
Most Muslims from relatively secular places like Syria don’t want to go to countries like Saudi Arabia that have religious theocracy. They don’t want to go there, they want to live in democracies. Apparently, to you, this is proof muslims are somehow in the wrong again.[/quote]
so why are those muslims nations not welcoming other muslims? who cares what the refugees want. Yes, it is wrong that the refugees are not welcome in these nations.
Good job putting words in my mouth, and bringing up something completely irrelevant to the situation to show your disdain for other religions. I’m the hack tho
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2.5 million Syrians have entered Saudi Arabia since 2013 receiving automatic free healthcare and education, what are you babbling about? The reason these refugees are going to Europe is they don’t want to live in Saudi Arabia, the ones who settled there had to because they don’t have the money to pay the smugglers to get them to Europe, hence why the camps in Saudi Arabia are now open but empty!
Anyone who can afford to tries to make it to democracy, not theocracy.
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The Kingdom has received around 2.5 million Syrians since the beginning of the conflict. In order to ensure their dignity and safety, the Kingdom adopted the policy not to treat them as refugees or place them in refugee camps. They have been given the freedom to move about the country, and those who wish to remain in Saudi Arabia (some hundreds of thousands) have been given legal residency status like the remaining residents. Their residency comes with the rights to receive free medical care, to join the labor market and to attend schools and universities. This was contained in a royal decree in 2012 that instructed public schools to accept Syrian students. According to government statistics, the public school system has accepted more than 100,000 Syrian students. [/quote]
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The Kingdomâ??s efforts were not limited to accepting our Syrian brothers and sisters after their crisis; it also extended its efforts to support and care for millions of Syrian refugees in neighboring countries such as Jordan, Lebanon and others. Efforts included providing humanitarian assistance in coordination with the host governments and with international human aid organizations. Aid was provided in the form of money and goods. [/quote]
Where did you hear they were not taking any refugees? Fox news? Some right wing European website?
^ maybe if they would be willing to build soccer stadiums qatar would let them in…
tell us more about how benevolent muslims are to other muslims
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
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- We accept tonnes of religious people whose religious beliefs are antithetical to western society, we have a large orthodox Jewish community in the south of the city. They refuse to assimilate, they often speak no English, they hold views about women and social relations we in the west find offensive.
We don’t and didn’t stop jews coming here, nor the refugee jews who came here from places like Lebanon in the 90’s. Singling out Muslims in this regard is crude and not a good reason to refuse large groups of refugees. My country played a main role in causing the vacuum that created ISIS. My country has a moral obligation to house people our war helped displace.
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If you think harsh and stringent Judaism is comparable to harsh and stringent Islam then you have surely ventured into the land foolishness and ignorance. They simply aren’t and a prudent man understands this.
LOL, I think I’ll just let this statement stand there in all its naked splendor.
BTW, I believe you’re British or Canadian so let’s make a deal. Have YOUR country take all they want and set a good example for us backward Americans,* ok? Show us how it’s done.
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So your country, the one who instigated the war that destabilised the region…
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That’s certainly the progressive/America is Purt Near the Great Satan perspective.
An objective realist would counter that evil men in those countries were and are responsible for destabilization.
I’ve a feeling you wouldn’t know what “Christian” is if a cross fell on you today on your way home from work and sent you straight to a tomb sealed with a stone.
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No I am sure you are right, jesus would stop refugees coming to the land in which he lived. After all Jesus was an isolationist, nationalist and favoured hard line economics over charity and love. Carry on Christian soldier.[/quote]
In politics, consequentialism is the ultimate litmus test of right or wrong. The plight of the refugees, while tragic, is secondary. The question is whether or not accepting refugees increases (or at least maintains) the power of the state or dampens it.[/quote]
Hey, look at that!
We have agreed again! 
I guess it’s easier when confronted with this sort of liberal silliness.
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Hell is slowly freezing over
Yep. Bleeding hearts do not make for good policy.
[quote]DBADNB1 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
It makes logistical and ideological sense to send these people thousands of miles away …
because there is nothing nefarious about this whole situation [/quote]
So because a corrupt, backwards, racist, monarchial dictatorship refuses to help the innocent western republics should follow suit? How about we don’t take our moral compass from such people as the Saudi state? Sound good?
Also, believe it or not, Saudi Arabia might be a bit worried about a bunch of comparatively secular people from Syria and Iraq turning and potentially down the line demanding reform to the system and in general being a problem for the theocratic Saudi state.[/quote]
The moral compasses of states are not the moral compasses of individuals. Their preeminent goal should be to provide for the security and prosperity of their nationals. They are under no obligation to assist those outside of their territory, especially when doing so could prove harmful to them.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]DBADNB1 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
It makes logistical and ideological sense to send these people thousands of miles away …
because there is nothing nefarious about this whole situation [/quote]
So because a corrupt, backwards, racist, monarchial dictatorship refuses to help the innocent western republics should follow suit? How about we don’t take our moral compass from such people as the Saudi state? Sound good?
Also, believe it or not, Saudi Arabia might be a bit worried about a bunch of comparatively secular people from Syria and Iraq turning and potentially down the line demanding reform to the system and in general being a problem for the theocratic Saudi state.[/quote]
The moral compasses of states are not the moral compasses of individuals. Their preeminent goal should be to provide for the security and prosperity of their nationals. They are under no obligation to assist those outside of their territory, especially when doing so could prove harmful to them. [/quote]
But thats the thing though, they have taken in refugees. Saudi Arabia alone has taken in a massive 2.5 million refugees and given them entitlements to free healthcare and education. My point simply was if they had not taken any in, which he ignorantly claimed, would not mean we should not.
Germany needs immigration due to low birth rates and to stabilise the state pensions etc. Recent studies have estimated that Germany needs 500,000 a year every year until 2050
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Germany seems to be becoming a nation with a large number of “baby boomers” that are on the verge of retirement. Due to fewer laborers in Germany, half a million immigrants are needed every year for 35 years, according to a study that foresees a sharp decline in Germany’s workforce. [/quote]
[quote]DBADNB1 wrote:
Germany seems to be becoming a nation with a large number of “baby boomers” that are on the verge of retirement. Due to fewer laborers in Germany, half a million immigrants are needed every year for 35 years, according to a study that foresees a sharp decline in Germany’s workforce. [/quote]
Imagine that.
Need those much more socially conservative/traditionalists to have the families to sustain, and ultimately replace, the aging-childless (or nearly so) gray-headed progressive westerners.
Hip-hip-hooray for social progress!
What a dead end culture lol.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Sickening.
That’s just today…
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Sickening.
edit - what does that say about a man who doesn’t appreciate a sexy woman, what does that say about a man who beats a woman?
He’s angry because the Netherlands isn’t like the hell hole he’s from…
totally understandable.
edit - I guess it’s OK because Christians used to burn women at the stake 1000 years ago, right?
Deport the son of a bitch and his a-hole friends.
Some good news for a change:
Hopefully this piece of shit dies a slow and painful death. It this story is true, I really like the way the hypocritical SOB prays to his little Allah before he rapes the child. What a true"holy warrior".
[quote]florelius wrote:
These People are fleeing from the horrorshow in Syria and Libya, two countrys who where cast into chaos in the aftermath of the interventions in Iraq and Libya. We(Europeans) ergo have a special responsibility to help. Now offcourse I wish that more middle-eastern country’s would help, but even if they dont, does not excuse
Our future course of action regarding this. [/quote]
Afghans, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi as well? Not to mention Somalis… I’ve seen Syrians screaming here on the ground that less than 10% of refugees are Syrian and that they are constantly harassed and bullied by others - mainly young Iraqi and Afghan men…