Recommendations to jump start the fat loss process again (critiquing my diet and such)

Bigger Stronger Leaner Competitive Bodybuilding
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I don’t know if I’m right, but I believe I’m beginning to stagnate. In fact, I think I began stagnating weeks ago.

I am going to make some changes in my diet. Based on what I’ve read here, at the forums and in various articles, I’ve decided some of the problem lies in these canned fruits that had corn syrup in them. I’m going to replace them with more vegetables and further dropping my overall carb intake, while upping my overall calorie intake a few hundred calories (to around 3000, since I’ve been 2500-ish for awhile).

In addition, I’ve switched to the OVT Training program this week (ow…) in hopes of “shocking” my body with a new routine it’s never encountered.

And I’m planning on ordering HOT-ROX and getting some Tribex. I really want to gain back some lost muscle from Fat Fast and the first four weeks of this (if possible), since I’ll be going back to a powerlifting cycle soon. Not to mention, I’m sure some muscle gain couldn’t hurt towards losing this fat.(Do you guys recommend M as well?)

However, I know the a program revolves mostly around one’s diet, so, if anyone would be so kind, would anyone mind taking a look at the diet I plan on switching to? It’s a P+F/P+C plan and I would greatly appreciate your opinions.

Meal 1:
? Cup Oatmeal (150 Cals, 3g Fat, 5g Protein, 27g Carbs)
? Cup Eggs (12g Protein, 70 Cals, 4g Carbs)
1 Scoop Protein Powder (1.5g Fat, 22g Protein, 110 Calories, 3g Carbs)
Water

Meal 2:
5 servings tuna fish (65g Protein, 300 Cals, 3g Fat)
1 Tbsp Flax Seed Oil (130 Cals, 14g Fat)
1 can Tuna (32.5g Protein, 1.25g Fat, 150 Cals)
Water

Meal 3:
1 Cup Vegetables (70 Cals, 16g Carbs)
1 Cup Cottage Cheese (14g Carbs, 26g Protein, 160 Cals)
1 Scoop Protein Powder (1.5g Fat, 22g Protein, 110 Calories, 3g Carbs)
Water

Meal 4:
65g Protein worth of chicken or fish
1 Tbsp Flax Seed Oil (130 Cals, 14g Fat)
1 can Tuna (32.5g Protein, 1.25g Fat, 150 Cals)
Water

Meal 5:
1 Cup Cottage Cheese (14g Carbs, 26g Protein, 160 Cals)
1 Cup vegetables (70 Cals, 16g Carbs)
1 Scoop Protein Powder (1.5g Fat, 22g Protein, 110 Calories, 3g Carbs)
Water

Meal 6:
2 Scoop Protein Powder (3g Fat, 44g Protein, 220 Calories, 6g Carbs)
? Cup Cottage Cheese (7g Carbs, 13g Protein, 80 Cals)
1 Tbsp Flax Seed Oil (130 Cals, 14g Fat)
Water

~60g (+ chicken/fish entr?e)— Fat
~369g — Protein
~108g — Carbohydrates
~2700 (+ chicken/fish entr?e)— Cals

I have not particular set structure when to eat each meal, they just happen to be numbered that way. I do however try to eat a carb one before and after lifting and plan on eating meal 6 before bed. The previous diet post-Fat Fast was the same except it had those fruits in it and had lower Protein and higher Carb and Fat totals ( not too much higher). And I don’t think it was structured as well combo-wise.

Also, I’ve noticed from some people’s logs, that they had days were they ate vastly differently amount of particular macronutrients (carbs up, protein up, fat down, whatever - Mr. Thibeaudeau’s log in ‘The Beast Evolves’ is an example). I was wondering if you guys recommend that I does this as well to create a constant see-saw for my body. And if so, if you had any ideas as to what would be best.

As usual, I thank you all in advance for any amount of input you may provide. Whether or not you find it trivial, I find it very valuable and enlightening.

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FT, dude, you gotta vary your food more than that! Unless you’re unable for whatever reason, I think you should rely less on the protein powders and get some meat. You definitely should get many different meats, and NOT just lean meats. Experiement with tons of different sources of protein. You can always eat beef, buffalo (very lean), ostrich (very lean), scallops, clams, oysters, liver (don’t eat too much liver or shellfish, though), duck, squid, roe, pork, lamb, goat, deer, etc, etc.

I think if you could vary the protein and rely less on the powder, it would help out a lot.

Hope this helps,
Neil

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Thanks, Neil! I’m going to see if I can swing pork, beef, and some real cheese into this thing and drop my protein powder to two servings daily instead…heck, this oughta help me with my supplement costs…if it isn’t eaten up by the extra food cost. Oh, well, this sounds much better actually.

Wanna get this diet straight before I go using expensive supplements from now on. I can’t imagine how much money I wasted taking supplements when I had an inadequate diet going.

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I don’t see a post-workout drink. What are you consuming right after a workout. I would also substitute some monos in there. You could substitute some olive oil in for the flax oil. Monos are very important also and what about some fish oils. The recommendation for some more meat protein is a good one also. Meat will have more of a thermic effect on your body than protein shakes. In other words, you will burn more calories with meat. It is harder to digest for your body while protein is easily digested. Hope this helps and feel free to ask away.

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Thanks for the explanation.

I would love to incorporate something like Surge post workout, but my budget’s gonna be strained enough just investing in Tribex and HOT-ROX (in addition to food costs). Do you have any recommendations for what I can get post workout food wise? Or do you feel the Surge will be more beneficial than the Tribex?

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Sorry, JasonL, I forgot to answer your question. I try to eat one of the carb meals listed above, but I can tell now (after reading up on Surge’s own contents) that what is listed is nowhere near adequate post workout.

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Okay, now I remember why I wasn’t concerned about a post-workout drink. From Mr. Berardi’s Winning Formula article:

*In addition, if you do decide to split up your weight training and aerobic/anaerobic training, you do not need to have 2 servings of Biotest Surge per day.

Since I do my anaerobic stuff on my days off from lifting, I figured I wouldn’t need a drink like Surge. Did I interpret this wrong?

Any of course, any other suggestions concerning anything are welcome.

By the way, is there an edit feature? I feel guilty unintentionally bumping this topic with repeat posts…but I guess it’s necessary to get topics to re-surface.