Recent Thoughts

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

SS writes something, X reponds, Utah and Stu only see what SS wrote. Not what X wrote.
Stu responds. SS & Utah can now see what Stu wrote in resposne to SS, but not what X wrote.

Is that not how the ignore function works? [/quote]

Let’s put this into the context of the Pre-Exhaust thread.

Some guy asks a question about pre-exhaust. People who know what they are talking about respond. Someone else who has it wrong gives them a different definition while saying “WHY WOULD I DO THAT??” to the correct method. He’s on ignore so no-one sees the mis-information being put forth, unless it gets quoted, and it will. Some people may not want this guy getting the wrong info on a simple concept like that, and says “yeah, that info is wrong”.

Do you see how at some point the argument can still happen since there are some who interject their own opinions and personal beliefs so ubiquitously here it really does become unavoidable.
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I can see how an argument can still happen. Unfortunatly arguments happen in life, especially on the internet. I don’t think there is a full proof way to stop them.

Is leaving and letting the “wrong” info go unchallenged better for the newb? [/quote]

I don’t think asking a large part of a community, and that’s what this site is in a way, to make changes due to one member of that community. Especially if that member twist and contorts the words of others in the community to appear “right” in the eyes of new members of a community.

Should the community allow this one member to mislead or misinform a new member of the community? Ignoring only allows the nonsense to go unchecked.

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How else would you solve the problem? [/quote]

Usually, in a community, the offending party is requested to change, not the rest of the community.

Public Flogging

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ryan was right about the ungrateful idiot posters here.
I guess when you’re a DYEL’er who’s only contributions to this site are GAL and PWI it doesn’t matter if a bodybuilding with multiple PRO Cards decides not to post but the rest of us who actually care about lifting would like to learn and get tips from a well educated, informative professional bodybuilder who juggles a wife, full time career AND kicks ass in the gym.[/quote]

It is utterly laughable how wrong your statement is, which I can only assume is direct, at least partially, at me. Whatever, I’m not gonna get into it again.

Stu, you are a valuable member of this site, I would hate to see you go.

Please stay.

-Chris
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Wrong assumption.
I wasn’t talking about you.
You hadn’t even posted in this thread yet, but if this joe fits.
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I assumed you were talking about yesturdays thread.

My bad. [/quote]
Not a problem.

Everyone seems to be turning this into a Stu vs X thread and that is not what it’s about.
I didn’t see Stu directly or indirectly mention X in his first post?
Maybe I missed it though.

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

How else would you solve the problem? [/quote]

Usually, in a community, the offending party is requested to change, not the rest of the community.
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I don’t think that will work.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

How else would you solve the problem? [/quote]

Usually, in a community, the offending party is requested to change, not the rest of the community.
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I don’t think that will work. [/quote]

Why?

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ryan was right about the ungrateful idiot posters here.
I guess when you’re a DYEL’er who’s only contributions to this site are GAL and PWI it doesn’t matter if a bodybuilding with multiple PRO Cards decides not to post but the rest of us who actually care about lifting would like to learn and get tips from a well educated, informative professional bodybuilder who juggles a wife, full time career AND kicks ass in the gym.[/quote]

I know that this is going to sound a little jaded but…

It’s all been done dude. Seriously. The reps, the sets, any training paradigm you can think of- has been done, redone, and done again for good measure.

You know what people want to hear? Here it is- “Awesome! You’re going to make phenomenal gains!”

So I stick to GAL and PWI.

DYEL? NO. Working in the steel industry as a welder/fabricator, cutting hammering bending fitting and otherwise manipulating the materials for 10 hrs/day usually 6 days a week has taken it out of me. The last thing I want to do when I get home is grab a couple hundred more lbs. of steel and start tossing it around the basement. I get into some weekend warrior sessions now and then, but as for training with the purpose and consistency I used to go at it with- NO.

In the spirit of credit where credit is due- I have to hand it to guys like Stu and the many good folks who can keep interest and enthusiasm levels high. I’m not surprised one iota that he might get frustrated. I can’t blame him for a second if he chooses to switch things up, or drop it all together. That choice is his, and I sure as hell am not going to influence it one bit.

So, in closing, I should add that it’s great that you gain some inspiration from a guy like Stu. I wish you the best in your pursuit.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
If you ignore person A, if person B quotes a post by person A, you will be able to see the original post by person A. [/quote]

Why must you always try to impress us with your wicked-hot, new math skills?

C’mere ya big lug, you know I’m a sucker for whiskey drinking, gin hating egg heads!

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Stu,

I really hope you don’t let some asshole (or multiple assholes) push you to leave. I really, for the life of me, cannot understand why you and about 10 other posters can’t just, “ignore,” through the ignore function or just through self control, certain posters.

You seem like a pretty great guy from what I’ve read, on the level of an Alpha & other posters that have left, do what make you happy. I hope what makes you happy is to stay.

-Chris [/quote]

It’s already been said. Ignoring doesn’t fix it. He still gets quoted which pops up[/quote]

Not if everyone ignored him. [/quote]

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. [/quote]

True, but you’d have to check to find out right?

This is all I’m saying:

SS, Utah, & Stu want to have a conversation. All 3 have X on ignore (like me).

SS writes something, X reponds, Utah and Stu only see what SS wrote. Not what X wrote.
Stu responds. SS & Utah can now see what Stu wrote in resposne to SS, but not what X wrote.

Is that not how the ignore function works? [/quote]

If you ignore person A, if person B quotes a post by person A, you will be able to see the original post by person A. [/quote]

I understand. If Person B, C, D, E, F, G, & H all have person A on ignore, then theoretically a conversation can be had between B-H without interruption from A, correct? [/quote]
But what about when person Z, whos all natural, gets done shooting hoops, swings by the drive through at Mc Donald’s, comes home bigger than Ronnie Coleman and decides to get on and respond to person X?

Then it’s all screwed up.
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HaHa, I just saw this post. Hey I never said it’s a perfect solution.

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
If you ignore person A, if person B quotes a post by person A, you will be able to see the original post by person A. [/quote]

Why must you always try to impress us with your wicked-hot, new math skills?

C’mere ya big lug, you know I’m a sucker for whiskey drinking, gin hating egg heads![/quote]

What do you mean try to impress you? I’ll have you know my math skills never fail to impress.

For you Stu!

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
For you Stu![/quote]

I’ll see your ‘Tart and raise you a PB n’ Red Velvet Sammich!

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
For you Stu![/quote]

I’ll see your ‘Tart and raise you a PB n’ Red Velvet Sammich!

S[/quote]

A sandwich where the jelly is already in the bread. Genius.

OMG o_o

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
For you Stu![/quote]

I’ll see your ‘Tart and raise you a PB n’ Red Velvet Sammich!

S[/quote]

Unless that is white chocolate wonderfall PB I am not impressed, and potential even grossed out.

What about a choc fudge poptart with banana flavored PB?

(if you pass on this, I don’t believe you -lol)

S

I’ve been lurking or otherwise posting on this site since 2007… The whole “I hate particular poster, and he is a dbag” thing has been on-going since then. It has waxed and waned over the years, and currently seems to be at a high mark, for various reasons.

I’m going to keep my personal feelings out of it.

That said, there isn’t a rational person that has read any of these exchanges that can’t say the vast majority of the vitriol tossed around (in both directions) is deserved. Does one side of the debate deserve more blame for the shittyness? Probably, and I’ll leave that to others to make their own judgments about, but it is pretty clear where the major players stand on the subject.

SO here we have a situation where things are in flux and/or chaos because people care about a board they have invested the time and effort into. The passion is good, some of the expression of said passion, from both sides at times, is only further making it a shitty situation.

If everyone actually wants to continue to contribute in a meaningful way, then a common ground should be easy to find. This doesn’t require banning anyone or continuous public ridicule, maybe I should say shouldn’t require…

ALl that said, I’ve made some posts in the past in the vein of what I’m describing, and I’ve grown up enough to realize I was wrong in a lot of ways, right in some, but very much wrong as well. Part of the problem is people take the internet too serious sometimes, and not serious enough in others. Part of the problem is ego. And lastly part of the problem is not realizing when you’ve pushed a positive so far, it has become a negative.

Take for example, in this thread:

[quote]A poster wrote: (Who wrote it doesn’t matter)
But what about when person Z, whos all natural, gets done shooting hoops, swings by the drive through at Mc Donald’s, comes home bigger than Ronnie Coleman and decides to get on and respond to person X?

Then it’s all screwed up.
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This here is the point where a positive (if you are in the camp that agrees with said poster’s position in this situation) has been pushed far enough it is now a negative.

It reminds me of the pussyburger thread. Any good that could have come from that thread, whether it be lulz or a push/request for a change, was ruined because people took it too far and over played their hand.

Frustrated, fed up or sick of a situation aside, you either want to be part of the problem, part of the solution or not be part of the situation at all anymore. People really need to figure out where they stand as to those three options and start acting in that manner. This goes for all of us, not just one side of the divide, but both. (Bithcing and moaning quickly becomes part of the problem, fyi.)

I don’t, nor does anyone care about the past anymore, if people truely want to fix the problem. We need to make history just that, history. Then move on. You don’t have to forget history, rather you’d be wise to remember it, as to not repeat it, but their is no need, particularly on the internet to re-live it, over and over.

I get where people are coming from with their complaints, I do, and there is a ton of validity to a ton of it… That said, let’s all eat a little humble pie, act like adults, and make the choice that fits our personal interests the best, fix, bitch or quit…

Nom Sayin’?

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
What about a choc fudge poptart with banana flavored PB?

(if you pass on this, I don’t believe you -lol)

S[/quote]

that sounds magical.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
For you Stu![/quote]

I’ll see your ‘Tart and raise you a PB n’ Red Velvet Sammich!

S[/quote]

Oh. My. God.

All joking has been suspended until the post has been reviewed by countingbeans and deemed worthy.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
For you Stu![/quote]

I’ll see your ‘Tart and raise you a PB n’ Red Velvet Sammich!

S[/quote]

I think that picture just spiked my insulin levels… You ruined my backload today.