According to my trainer… this is caused by an over abundance of protein in your diet.
I reduced my protein intake about 25% and the farts stopped. And yes, they were room clearing farts. I mean I put dairy cows to shame.
MS
I started having those issues around week 6 and 7. Doc’s tested me at 8 weeks and found my Estradiol was a bit high (high 40’s).
Soon as we knocked it back down to about 20, I was raging again like a 17 yo.
MS
Cow farts anyone? I’m seriously not joking, I’ve cleared a 50 ft circle around me at the gym before… talk about awkward moments.
MS
1 Like
Man, mine were exactly the same. I mean, normally I have no gas, but for about a month, I had it bad.
I do believe I’ve found the source of it, though: for me, it wasn’t an excess of protein (which could be the cause for others, like you), but rather what I view as “Selective/Mild Lactose Intolerance.” I switched from the normal True Nutrition whey to the cold-filtered whey (which is slightly more expensive) a few days ago – and I’ve had no gas since.
I also don’t get any gas from fat-free cottage cheese/Greek yogurt, but normal cheese gives it to me badly. It seems the fat content/filtration process of the dairy is the deciding factor in whether I’ll have no gas or terrible gas. Something for other guys with this issue to be aware of.
It’s so interesting how this works. It seems E does need to be in a “sweet spot” for some guys to have libido, whereas others (like me) feel better with it higher. Guess we are all different after all
Estradoiol, prolactin, there is a whole panoply of hormones that effect size, girth, hardness, recovery time (when your ready to go again), blood flow, etc.
I was chatting with my Doc about that and he basically was telling me there is so much to “ED” that if you really want to know the cause you have to deal with each one at a time…
And sometimes that doesn’t provide answers… so his recommendation was 20 mg of cialis per day and balance your estradiol. It’s good for you and helps you out. 
MS
Fascinating – seems it has worked for you?
I do imagine I’ll venture into the Cialis territory as well at some point. I have read that it’s quite healthy. However, I don’t want using it to cloud my assessment of the effectiveness of my TRT protocol at this point (less than a year in) and age (28).
TRT will make you get your libido back, it will help you get hard. But it can’t make the blood flow improve on its own.
End of story. You need a combo of nitric oxide returned to the penile tissues, neuro steroids in the brain effect this… which cialis acts well upon.
Also need to make sure that estradiol and prolactin are “behaving.”
Cialis makes your arteries more flexible… like more elastic…
And it fixes a lot of deca related problems from the research that I was doing for a gym buddy. I’m running Cialis and it works … I nail my wife every morning… she hates me right now. 5-6 times a week at least. Seriously, like being 17 yo again.
She actually went on female HRT because I was actually hurting her. Now she’s happy as a clam despite her objections… and internally it made her 17 yo again… seriously amazing stuff.
Doc was also mentioning that nitric oxides are often pulled away from the penile tissues and sent to skeletal muscle with testosterone… just an fyi.
MS
1 Like
Does cialis have an anti E effect? I remember reading that it does. It always seems to make my sensitivity worse. It’s like I’m so hard I’m almost numb. TMI? Sorry. But just saying, it isn’t for everyone. Though the random and super easy boners were pretty nice to the ego…
How much of it were you taking? 20 sounds like a decently high dose. I think Jay Campbell said he takes 5.
I have been on Daily 5 for 3-4 months and it has helped some. I am going to bump up to 10mg soon. Great Thread here!
1 Like
5mg’ish for me too when I took it… even that had affects for 2+ days
Stick around, brother!
1 Like
That’s crazy. I almost want to do it as an experiment, just to see what it feels like. But like I said, I’d rather stay attuned to how my HOT protocol is affecting me.
I think it’s worth trying at some point but I wouldn’t right now while you have the thyroid and the dosage/frequency changes to worry about already. Too many variables
1 Like
2 weeks ago, I decided to ‘bulk.’ I put that in quotes because the surplus is very conservative (100-150 kcal) compared to the way many guys go about bulking.
I’ve been aiming to gain roughly 1 pound per week.
So far, the scale — which you can never fully trust, but still — says I’m up 2 lbs, 1.2 of which is muscle. Again, can’t believe the scale, but this does seem like a reasonable, healthy pace to keep following.
2 Likes
I have been reading up on a couple fascinating compounds.
1. Deca (Nandrolone) — Defy mentioned this as an option to me, and lots of guys on TRT sing its praises. In this video Dr. Ruterbusch touts its benefits in particular for aging males and guys with high SHBG.
But I don’t have any joint pain or inflammation, so the Deca seems unnecessary — and I’ve read it can have a negative effect on libido. Maybe something for later in life, if aches and pains become a thing.
2. Anavar (Oxandrolone) — Another compound that I’ve read can be useful for guys with high SHBG, and also available through Defy. This one is more interesting to me, perhaps so I don’t have to continually take a massive dose of testosterone (could potentially lower exogenous T dose by introducing Anavar as a supplement).
I have no plans to dive into either for the time being, as I’m focused on dialing in my TRT and thyroid (which arrives today!).
Anyone have experiences with either option they’d be willing to share?
I’ve been reading people considering Deca with TRT quite a bit more in this forum.
If you search here and in Pharma, you’ll see info about Deca. There is something dreaded called Deca dick, where after taking Deca, your dick doesn’t work. I think that applies to certain people and in higher dose, but even reading that scares me away. Also, some say it’s not long term and could have a negative nuerological impact.
Just use the search machine.
Anavar is very interesting to me. Two things I eventually want to try, but admittedly a little hesitant to do are a blast of 300mg a week…and try anavar with my regular TRT dose.
Yay to thyroid meds arriving. Keep us updated on how you feel after taking it!
Yeah brother, Deca dick is the reason I’m most hesitant to try it (well, that and that I don’t have joint pain, so I don’t really see the potential benefit aside from adding LBM). It does seem to have some promising reviews, but I’ll need to do more research before I’m onboard.
The potential negative long-term effects give me pause. I may be looking into less ‘traditional’ compounds, but I’m not looking to go full steroid-using juicehead, lol. Longevity is still essential.
Same here, regarding the latter option. I see a lot of potential with anavar, but I’m curious about side effects (short- and long-term).
That’s why I (and presumably you and others) would love to hear from guys who have done the same, if any are around here. It seems anavar is almost exclusively used in AAS cycles, and not in TRT. But I wonder if there is room for it in a healthy, well-designed protocol.