Realistic TRT Recomp Progress

Man, so weird that he would even test for HCT and wouldn’t pull Free T.

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Yea he tested a good bit of stuff. Thyroid and all kinds of other stuff, just would never do free t. I even asked a few times.

Hope you left this clown. Clearly you know more than him. SMH. So crazy how these guys are still out there. Hope you’re with someone way better now, brother.

Nope. Same guy. I just recently got my wife going with defy, and at some point I’ll be switching to them to see what they can come up with.

Do it. I’m with them and they’ve been great. They aren’t perfect but if you combine their setup/resources with the intel available on forums like this, you’ll be in great shape. You can always make slight adjustments on your own, as I have. I trust @bmbrady77 as much as any endo out there, lol.

@wanna_be
Why not just test free T yourself? It’s cheap

@bkb333
Looking good man

Well I’m at the point now where 200 doesn’t do anything for me, so if free T is low and I need more then what? I’d have to go UGL to get more.

I do need to do something though. I’ve complained on here a few times and haven’t done anything about it so that’s definitely on me.

More information is always better regardless, brother, and you can make your decisions so much better (and receive better advice) with knowledge of Free T. I maintain a spreadsheet with 77 different biomarkers and my results over time. Sample:

Free T is as important as any of these values, so I strongly recommend you always have that one tested in the future. Probably not telling you anything new, but just my two cents!

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@wanna_be
You don’t necessarily need UGL. There are TRT clinics that will give you up to 300mg if you really need it.

Defy works with women? I didn’t know that. May have to look into that.

Yep. My wife had some serious hormone issues. We found a few things waaaaaaay off base. We were hoping she’d see a big improvement but alas, all we have is numbers in range and no improvement with symptoms. She due for her labs now so hopefully we will be able to make some changes/get some answers.

Interesting. I’ll have to look into that. Was looking at tier 1/dr Nichols but all the up front fees and paperwork is freaking out my wife so not sure yet.

Dr Nichols intrigues me. Really wish he had the insurance setup that Defy has because he knows his stuff.

Yeah, me too. They make you sign stuff saying you can’t turn it into insurance and won’t tell your regular doc what he’s prescribed. And $2000 up front. But it covers all the consults for a year

I’m sure it’s just covering his ass but sounds kind of sketchy. Wonder how legal it is to say “I won’t tell my doctor what I’ve been prescribed.”

Yeah. I’m sure it’s so they don’t try to report him to whatever board to be investigated when his treatments are different than “normal”. But try explaining that to a wife that is already borderline thinking hormone stuff is sketchy and oh we have to pay $2000 up front for a maybe it will help. Not an easy sell

Thank you for your kind words brother, but don’t put THAT much faith in me lol! I’m just like you all, trying my best to learn as much as I can and get this stuff right, and safe. I want to live great for a long time!!

If she’s not already working with her, I would highly recommend that your wife request Janel. She will get her where she needs to be.

If that’s who she is working with, stay the course. Sometimes it takes a while to get to good. Tell your wife to be completely honest during her consults, and emphasize things like sex drive and/or performance troubles if those are not where she wants them to be.

It took Janel and my wife some trial and error, but we got her straight. She’s giving me a run for my money now a days, in sex drive AND in the gym. Pound for pound comparison, my wife is a beast!! Lol. Yours will get there too man, stick with it.

Also, if you guys are not working out and planning your diet together, shame on you. Get your wife on the same page and be her workout partner, and make her be yours. A great sex life and relationship is about 50% hormones, and 50% closeness/friendship. Make your health and hers the focal point of an opportunity to do it together. I promise you that will do wonders for relationship if you’re not already doing this.

One last thing…ENCOURAGE her!! If she works out and is careful with her diet along side of you, then take pictures of her while she’s in the middle of her set. Then, a few months later do it again and then show her the differences in how she looks. My wife had NO IDEA how much progress she had made until I did this, and she was like “Damn! I didn’t realize I looked that much different!” Does wonders for their self esteem brother, and that is key to her feeling sexy, and having a good drive.

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Sex life is fine. She’s got more libido than I could ever want lol. We do workout together as well. I’ll have to check and see who this person she deals with is.

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Lol! I apologize for making an assumption. It’s usually sex drive related when us guys complain about our wives having “symptoms” lol.

Tell her to be very specific with her symptoms (whatever they are in your case) during the consults. The one thing I have found with the Defy staff is that, they aren’t perfect but they listen very well, and in my experience, they care just as much (if not more) about getting their patients to where they need to be as they do about making money. For a woman specifically, Janel is one of the best because A, she knows what the hell shes talking about, and B…she’s a woman. She truly understands the complications that a woman has to deal with daily. It’s a completely different world for them than it is with us guys. I’ve been very pleased with them.

Edit to add…NO…I do not have ANY affiliation with Defy… I’m a patient just like you guys.

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No worries on the assumption, just hate you typed out all that :joy:. I’m currently doing all that and more.

So far defy has been great to deal with. No complaints so far, we are just at the early stages of everything so I haven’t lost hope or anything. I wish all medical places were as kind and easy to deal with as defy.

Edit: she has been dealing with a woman, so maybe it is janel!

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